House Passes New FISA Bill!

@anniepa (27238)
United States
June 20, 2008 3:37pm CST
Is anyone else here as PI$$ED OFF about this as I am? http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5hJKgeE0Z-SivATjok-utYBdh9wDwD91DVGDO1 http://www.crooksandliars.com/2008/06/20/house-passes-new-steny-hoyerfisa-bill/ I totally agree with former GOP Representative and current host of MSNBC's "Morning Joe" Joe Scarborough who said something to the effect that the Democrats, for all their railing against the Bush Administration always end up giving Bush exactly what he wants! The House passed the bill by a vote of 293-129, which effectively protects the telecommunication companies from "lawsuits rising from the government's terrorism-era warrantless eavesdropping on phone and computer lines in this country", and is also expected to pass the Senate by a large margin. Even Republican Senator Arlen Specter opposes the bill saying that nothing in the new bill would prevent the government from once again wiretapping domestic phone and computer lines without court permission. OK, those of you who are always worried about having our rights taken away, what do you think about this? How many of my fellow Democrats - the half dozen or so of you here on myLot - are as angry as I am at these DINO's who caved to accusations of being "soft on terror" and supported this atrocious bill? Annie
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@Taskr36 (13925)
• United States
20 Jun 08
I stand by Ben Franklin's quote about freedom and security.
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@suspenseful (40316)
• Canada
21 Jun 08
I suppose that had to happen with all the terrorism going about. I do not like someone listening on my conversation, but at least in the States, you do not have to worry as much as we do in Canada. Up here if you say anything against homosexuals, you can be arrested. Down there, you can speak what you will.
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@anniepa (27238)
• United States
21 Jun 08
"Up here if you say anything against homosexuals, you can be arrested. Down there, you can speak what you will." I have no intentions of saying anything against homosexuals, but I've said plenty against Bush, which is what puts us at risk here. Out of curiosity, when you say, "if you say anything against homosexuals", exactly what do you mean? Are you talking about threats of violence because if so you should be arrested. Annie
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@anniepa (27238)
• United States
22 Jun 08
The most irritating part of this whole deal is they've always had the capability of doing the wiretapping and getting the warrant after the fact within 72 hours so this tells me they're doing it or, at least want to be able to do it without just cause. I'm trying to find out which of the Democrats in the Senate plan on support this and I'm going to send them an e-mail withdrawing my support. Annie
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@MntlWard (880)
• United States
22 Jun 08
The telecoms probably promised some large campaign contributions for a vote in their favor. This sucks.
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@anniepa (27238)
• United States
22 Jun 08
That's probably what it is. Now the people who were wronged by this have no right to sue, which industry will be next to be totally immunized from any consequences for their actions against the public? Bush had said earlier this bill not being extended was putting us all in danger of another terror threat, yet he would accept no compromise other than total immunity for the telecoms. In other words, he put the telecom companies first and our "safety" second. Annie
@snowy22315 (50867)
• United States
20 Jun 08
I think anything we can do to keep another september 11 from happening here is alright with me. Some sacrifices have to be made that's all their is to it. I dont think the govt. is going to find anything too interesting in my phone conversations anyway.
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@anniepa (27238)
• United States
21 Jun 08
I don't think the government is going to find anything too interesting in my phone conversations either, but they're still MY conversations and meant for whomever I choose to hear them. Annie
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@theprogamer (10539)
• United States
29 Jun 08
Don't worry its just another step in the process. Soon "they'll" be taking in anyone and everyone saying too much against them (I level this charge at both parties)... that is what follows. There is no recourse against monitoring speech and transmissions, plenty of other unwanteds can follow just as easily. All it takes is a politican, a group, a powerful lobby or interest group... just one or any of those and a charge of "terror" or "threatening speech" and that'll be that. Fact is, its happened before in other countries and even in a couple of pocket cases stateside. There is already corrupted power in the hands of the power addicted... and like clockwork, the laws themselves are being scrutinized, bent, rearranged, distorted. Its too bad not everyone sees what's happening with all of this. P.S: Seems like there are more than just half a dozen Democrats on lot. Or perhaps I'm getting old and seeing double. =3
@Thoroughrob (11750)
• United States
26 Jun 08
We seem to be closer and closer to losing our freedom every day. The government passes laws and more laws without the voice of the people.