Christians and Food Stamps The bible says "No Work, No Food"

United States
August 10, 2008 11:05pm CST
There are many negative references about people who do not work in the bible. This is one of them. II Thessalonians 3:6-12 The bible does say "if any do not work, neither shall they eat." So is someone not a good Christian if they do not work and receive food stamps? Why or why not? Will someone go to hell for getting food stamps?
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@EvanHunter (4030)
• United States
14 Aug 08
Its a metaphor, its not even talking about food. Its talking about people who come into the church to cause mischief and subvert the purpose of the church. Those who bring in false doctrine to try and cause disorder. The bible says the corners of every field are to be for the poor, alms to the poor to make sure the poor were fed so God looks after the poor. No someone wont go to hell for being on food stamps but I am sure that a person with no charity is probably in big trouble.
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• United States
15 Aug 08
Thessalonians II is very short. You should read it. It is not a metaphor. So what you are saying is that Paul's letter is all direct and straight forward until the sentence immediately after the sentence that says "withdraw from every brother who walks disorderly"? It is all very direct and straight forward. They were not disorderly. They worked day and night and had a right to food. It says those who do not work should not eat. Like you said the corners were for the poor. It says only harvest grapes from the vine. Leave the ones on the ground for the poor. And to only beat the olive tree once and leave the rest for the poor. So no one is meant to starve. But if they were able they don't eat if they do not work. There is a trend. The needy has to work for their food. Farmers didn't harvest it and give it to the needy. I don't think anyone will go to hell for being idle or a sloth alone. But it does say they should be ashamed.
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• United States
15 Aug 08
It also says charity will cover the multitude of sins. As far as the metaphor I can clearly give you lots of examples where bread is used as an example of doctrine. I have read it and listened to it multiple times and listening to the entire scriptures allows you to connect all the dots and I would recommend that everyone who wants a deeper understanding try it. As far as hell goes I am a believer of the resurrection just like Jesus preached and Paul. So why would you even ask if someone would go to hell if you are well versed? Scriptures shouldn't be used for dislike of someone who needs food stamps, I noticed that people who jump on the hating people who use food stamps rarely point out all the farmers who make thousands a year to not grow anything or the hand outs that go to over seas countries that are so outrageous they do not even compare to what this country provides single women with kids who are struggle to feed them. So as far as sin Paul also said Romans 9:15 For he saith to Moses, I will have mercy on whom I will have mercy, and I will have compassion on whom I will have compassion. and Romans 14:4 Who art thou that judgest another man's servant? to his own master he standeth or falleth. Yea, he shall be holden up: for God is able to make him stand.
• India
13 Aug 08
"If any do not work, neither shall they eat." I am sorry if I am offending your religious sentiments, but I think this is a very cruel, heartless statement to make. There are people in this world who CANNOT work. They may be sick, they may be born mentally retarded, they may be born handicapped. There are people who are psychologically sick. So, are you going to starve all these people because they do not work? It doesn't sound right to me. I would rather feed a person who asks me for food, even if he/she is incapable of working. After all, all of us do our best here on earth. Cheers and happy mylotting
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• United States
15 Aug 08
You missed the boat. It is about being idle. Lazy. Sloth. A burden. Please read my post to the person below. It isn't about someone who is disabled. That is covered else where in the bible. Not to leech off of society and not make a contribution is what I am talking about. If someone isn't willing to work they should not eat. Paul also says they should be ashamed. Which someone who is able but not willing to work should be ashamed. So what you are saying is that I can pitch a tent in your backyard and you will feed me every day? You can pm your address. I'll be there next week. LOL
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• India
16 Aug 08
If you really don't mind living in a tent in my backyard and eating only the food I give you, you are most welcome. I don't even drive away the cat that asks me food, then how can I drive you away? So far, I have given food to anybody who asked me. obviously, if anyone asks me food, they must be hungry right? Nobody with a full stomach and money to buy food will ask me for food. Only the hungry do, and I remember a very hungry man who approached me once. He was in rags and almost in tears, and he said he had not eaten. I was at a roadside dabba at that time chomping a bhelpuri. How could I say? "Man, Paul has said those who don't work don't eat?" Gosh, it would be too cruel!! Besides, what did Paul do for a living? What was his profession? I have no idea. All he did was go around and preach, and God knows who fed him. Maybe it is ok for preachers to eat without working. I work my a** off and I eat, and I will never send away a person who asks me for food. And I KNOW that human beings have dignity and self respect and that nobody will eat at my expense unless he/she is really hungry/desperate/ so poor. Cheers and happy mylotting
• United States
11 Aug 08
Only God can say who will or will not go to hell. So, who knows?
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• United States
15 Aug 08
If...
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@Barb42 (4225)
• United States
11 Aug 08
I think food stamps help people who aren't making enough money to buy enough to feed their family. There are lots of people who aren't able to work - many reasons that different people are eligible for them. I don't think food stamps have anything to do with whether someone goes to hell or not,though.
• United States
11 Aug 08
So what about if they don't work? Isn't sloth one of the 7 sins?
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@Barb42 (4225)
• United States
11 Aug 08
If a person is unable to work due to illness or injury, I see nothing wrong with them getting food stamps, if they don't have enough money to buy groceries and pay their bills.
• United States
11 Aug 08
Thessalonians 3:6-12 is about people who do not work. Lets put the disabled aside. What about those who choose not to work because they can get food stamps.
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• United States
15 Feb 09
I am a Christian who is passionate about King Jesus, and yet I recently qualified for food stamps. First, get those "Seven Deadly Sins" out of your head, that is not found in the Bible. All sin is deadly! Second, I am wrestling whether I should accept stamps. I do qualify for 2 Thes. 3:6-12 as I work hard every day to find a job. My wife got pregnant before I was laid off, and Medicaid/stamps may help us avoid utter poverty. I'm wrestling though because I heard George Mueller's testimony, and his trust in our all-providing God even if all other hope appears to be gone. I just don't know if I should accept stamps or not. He is trustworthy, but sometimes He provides through ordinary means. And aside from that, the socialistic principles upon which welfare is based make me vomit. So I *just* *don't* *know*. Pastor thinks that according to the Bible there's no problem, so I may be OK. Any Christians reading this, please pray 4 wisdom 4 me. All that said, 2 Thes. needs to be obeyed at all costs! Read Habakkuk 3 and Matthew 6:19-34 out loud some time.
• South Africa
20 Jan 11
I do not believe that God will punish you for taking food stamps. I am sure He does not want you to suffer and go hungry. I think what the bible is trying to say is that by being lazy you will not get anywhere in life. By not even trying, it is wrong to take money or food stamps. If you are trying the very best that you can to earn a living and you have tried everything, then I think your thinking is not correct. Try your very best and God will bless you
@Ravenladyj (22994)
• United States
12 Aug 08
First off I think its important to remember that when the bible was written food stamps DID NOT exist...in fact they werent even a twinkle in anyones eyes yet...secondly...even though I dont believe in heaven or hell IF either existed, I dont think that unemployment on its own would be a deciding factor or rather a sole factor....I think that the over all character of a person would be what would send them to either place....Yes some ppl are physically or mentally unable to work and I noticed that you said in a reply in here to keep that group out of the equation AND YES some ppl are just straight up lazy slackers BUT there are also those in the world who dont work becuase they would rather use their time to help others in various ways.... being unemployed for whatever reason IMO woudlnt be the deciding factor..I think it would be based on far more than that and should be as far as I'm concerned..
• United States
15 Aug 08
But that is totally different. If someone was unemployed but contributed to society they are working. Correct? Something I think is funny. Paul says that they should be ashamed. LOL I don't think someone would go to hell for it either but if they had to stand up for their sin they would definitely be ashamed.
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@reckon21 (3488)
• Philippines
11 Aug 08
Someone would go to hell just because they are receiving food stamp? That is not true. They beg for foods because they are very poor and nobody will employ them.
• United States
11 Aug 08
The bible also says to only harvest certain areas and to do it a certain way. Therefore it will provide food for those in need. However work would be involved to acquire the food. Such as going out an picking the grapes left on the ground or shaking the olive tree. The bible doesn't say anything about feeding those who choose not to work.
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• United States
11 Dec 12
Hence in the early days of Christianity cannibalism seems to have been a substitute to the current day food stamp program. 2 Kings 6:29 http://bible.cc/2_kings/6-29.htm just say in
• Canada
20 Jan 11
I agree that someone who is merely lazy and manipulative does not deserve a handout. But there are fewer of those than you might suppose. Most people in need have had a set of unfotunate circumstances that they cannot figure out how to get out of. Would it be better to help teach them how to become a provider for themselves? Yes, I think so. Taking care of your children is work. If your spouse has left you alone to do so, and you need food stamps, well, you are contributing to society IF you are raising your children so that they will grow up respectful and hardworking, instead of turning to criminal activities because they were left to run wild.
16 Jan 11
Most people on foodstamps do work, but still cannot provide enough food to feed their family. The bible says to "consider the cause of the Poor". There is also a reference in the bible to "gleaning" where God allows people to go into vineyards or farms, and pick up the fruit and vegetables that weren't picked by the workers.
16 Jan 11
Most people on foodstamps do work, but still cannot provide enough food to feed their family. The bible says to "consider the cause of the Poor". There is also a reference in the bible to "gleaning" where God allows people to go into vineyards or farms, and pick up the fruit and vegetables that weren't picked by the workers.
• Philippines
11 Aug 08
Not really, if you'll take a glance at the early church history, some have tried to pervert it by doing ministerial tasks but would take their needs from the church, which shows a not-so-good image.