Biden On Obama
By gewcew23
@gewcew23 (8007)
United States
August 24, 2008 8:54am CST
Politics make strange bed fellow, but Obama picking Biden is just weird. When Obama said he wanted a Vice President that he could argue with I guess he found the men for the job.
On Obama’s Iraq plan on September 13, 2007 “My impression is Obama thinks that if we leave, somehow the Iraqis are going to have an epiphany” of peaceful coexistence among warring sects. “I have seen zero evidence of that.”
Biden, on Obama’s Iraq plan in August 2007 “But I tell you what, I don’t want my grandson or my granddaughters going back in 15 years and so how we leave makes a big difference.”
Biden to the Brookings Institution in 2005 “We can call it quits and withdraw from Iraq. I think that would be a gigantic mistake. Or we can set a deadline for pulling out, which I fear will only encourage our enemies to wait us out equally a mistake.” Does not Obama want a timetable withdraw?
Will Biden keep these view or will Biden be told to "change" his views. Oh course that should not be such a big deal, Biden can just learn from Obama how to change his political positions.
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
24 Aug 08
I'm under the impression that Biden may be genuinely afraid of what could happen if Obama is elected. He's made it clear and stood by his statement that Obama is too inexperienced and that the presidency is not for on-the-job training. I believe that he decided that by accepting the VP position he can possibly pull the strings to keep Obama from making a complete fool of himself when dealing with other world leaders. I would expect Obama to be hiding from world leaders during important issues while Biden takes the reigns and speaks with leaders such as Putin and Merkel.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
24 Aug 08
I think Biden was one of the few Democrats who had some decent ideas on Iraq, depite his oposition to the war in general after the vote. That being said, it does call the team up in to question. I agrea that a vp should not always nessesarily be lock step with the president but, in this case, they are so far apart on some things and Biden has been so acurately critical of Obama, that it makes one question the motives of both. Obama's for choosing him, and Biden's for accepting an offer he said a few weeks ago he would turn down. Maybe Biden figured Obama needed someone to keep an eye on him in office.
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@xfahctor (14118)
• Lancaster, New Hampshire
24 Aug 08
I think Biden was one of the few Democrats who had some decent ideas on Iraq, depite his oposition to the war in general after the vote. That being said, it does call the team up in to question. I agrea that avp should not always nessesarily be lock step with the president but, in this case, they are so far apart on some things and Biden has been so acurately critical of Obama, that it makes one question the motives of both. Obama's for choosing him, and Biden's for accepting an offer he said a few weeks ago he would turn down. Maybe Biden figured Obama needed someone to keep an eye on him in office.
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@kenzie45230 (3560)
• United States
25 Aug 08
I was amazed at this selection. The only things I know about Biden (other than campaign comments) are that he's rude and loud. I think the first time I heard him was in the Clarence Thomas hearings.
But I was even more amazed after realing the kinds of things Biden said about Obama when Biden was in the Presidential race. Like how Obama didn't have enough experience to be president...and that the job an "on the job training position" or something similar.
Biden's handlers are saying that was just campaign stuff. Well, how do we know that what's coming out of both his mouth and Obama's isn't just campaign stuff now?
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@soooobored (1184)
• United States
24 Aug 08
No matter who is elected President, the best thing that person could do for himself is fill his ticket with people who hold strong opinions that oppose his own. I don't think that Biden will be told to change, I think he will be encouraged to make his points.
The scariest thing about Bush is how many people were telling him he was wrong, and he was just ignoring it in his singleness of purpose. Bush had a lot more "experience", but couldn't act as a President because he wasn't working for the people, he was working for himself. That's the kind of President that doesn't need to hear opposing viewpoints.
Choosing Biden is a great move for Obama, and I think setting up the White House to have different points of view will be valuable for any new president. As long as they listen to each other, that is!
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
24 Aug 08
"The scariest thing about Bush is how many people were telling him he was wrong, and he was just ignoring it in his singleness of purpose."
Actually congress didn't tell him he was wrong about Iraq. They voted for the war in Iraq by a solid majority. Bill Clinton waged an illegal war in former Yugoslavia despite the fact that congress voted against that war 427 - 2. He was later sued by several senators including Ron Paul for violating the constitution but the Supreme Court failed and dismissed the suit. If anyone ignored people telling him a war was wrong, it was Clinton.
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@soooobored (1184)
• United States
25 Aug 08
I meant that Bush was ignoring the input of top US generals and the United Nations. And mostly regarding the necessary commitment of troops after the initial invasion.
@Chevee (5905)
• United States
24 Aug 08
I really haven't been keeping up with the news this weekend, And I see from some discussions that Obama has pick Biden to be his Vice Presidents choice, I don't know if this has been pointed out but Biden and Obama... Is similar to Osama Bin Laden.
That's weird.
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