A landlord, that does not give out a receipt to their tenant.

@cream97 (29179)
United States
November 14, 2008 4:44am CST
If you have a landlord that has never given a receipt out to their tenant, what kind of landlord is this? If the tenant was to give the landlord their rent money, then should, the landlord issue a receipt verifying that the tenant has paid them? Why won't a landlord give an receipt to their tenant? If the tenant keeps all of their receipts, then what is that showing the landlord being that they have never given the tenant a receipt? If the landlord never received rent payment from their tenant, then whom fault is this, when the landlord never receives any money?
7 people like this
24 responses
@iskayz (5426)
• Philippines
14 Nov 08
Hi there! I think issuing receipts is required for anyone who has a renting space. In any kind of business we always issue receipts cause they are a proof of payments. If there is no proof of payment/receipt the tenant has for his/her paid rents, it will be the tenant's negligence cause he never asked for any receipt. But it is also the landlord's obligation to issue receipts. Maybe the landlord don't report it with the IRS that he/she has a renting space/house business.
2 people like this
@cream97 (29179)
• United States
14 Nov 08
Well this landlord is considered like an private landlord. This landlord does not own their own rental agency.. It is nothing like that. This landlord is just a regular person that has a couple places that they allow tenants to stay in for rent.. It is the landlord's obligation to issue out an receipt.. I really do wished that the tenant would have made sure that the landlord gave them a receipt.. I don't think that this landlord would be reporting anything to IRS.. The tenant told me so..
2 people like this
@iskayz (5426)
• Philippines
14 Nov 08
Well even if its a private landlord they are still required to report it to the IRS cause they have spaces for rent and that is still a business.
1 person likes this
@cream97 (29179)
• United States
14 Nov 08
Oh, it is? I will have to check more into this.. I understand what you are implying about the business. Any business is supposed to report taxes to the IRS..
1 person likes this
@agrant10 (1446)
• United States
14 Nov 08
A receipt should be given. It is for both parties protect especially if you pay in cash. I would never walk away without a receipt because the landlord could say you did not pay and you did. You can also say that you paided and you did not so the receipt will protect both parties.
2 people like this
@cream97 (29179)
• United States
14 Nov 08
You are very right! Having a receipt verifies that you paid the landlord rent! I am so sorry that this person never got an receipt from the landlord.. It makes it appear as if they never paid rent.. But, in this persons case, they have two money orders stubs specifying that the landlord has received two rental payments from them..
@agrant10 (1446)
• United States
14 Nov 08
That is great also. I think they learned a valuable lesson.
1 person likes this
@cream97 (29179)
• United States
14 Nov 08
I believe that they have.. Always collect receipts when it is possible..
@mokbul (616)
• Singapore
14 Nov 08
I think by law land lord is supposed to issue a money receipt. It is the proof that the tenant has paid the rent. Sometimes to skip paying income tax or some other reason some landlord may do otherwise, but in my opinion is the tenancy is valid contracted tenancy, there should be clause spelling out by which date of the month the tenant should pay the rent and land lord should issue money receipt on receiving the rent.
2 people like this
@cream97 (29179)
• United States
14 Nov 08
Yes, there should be an receipt given out to the tenant..
1 person likes this
@mokbul (616)
• Singapore
14 Nov 08
Hi Zukepar. Believe you are from Oklahoma. Please find the web link here that showing format of Oklahoma state rent receipt as it should be. Site is www.findlegalforms.com/product/oklahoma-rent-receipt. It is international standard legal practice that any legal transfer of money should be supported by documentation for the benefit of both or all the related parties.
2 people like this
• Australia
24 Dec 09
I am having a similar issue, i've even brought my own receipts and she is refusing to sign them, even though there just my security. Is there anything I can do by the law to make her have to sign the receipts I gave her?
14 Nov 08
Hi cream97, If the landlord don't give a receipt to his tenant, he is breaking the law and he can evict tenants out of the homes and the tenants don't have a leg to stand on because the landlord can say he never recieved any rent money, it don't matter if the tenant make a note that he has paid, so the best thing for the tenant is to get a a signed receipt from the landlord each time. Tamara
2 people like this
• United States
14 Nov 08
If you pay with a check or a money order, there is written proof that you paid and that claim is not valid. If you paid by cash, I'd stand somewhere until someone gave me a receipt. But with a check or money order, it's a waste of paper to give one.
1 person likes this
@cream97 (29179)
• United States
14 Nov 08
This tenant has two copies of money order receipts that verifies that the landlord was paid rent. So, I am sure that the judge will look at that..
1 person likes this
• Bahamas
14 Nov 08
Hi cream, it is very important to receive a receipt any and every time monies change hands. Having a landlord who wont give receipts is something to be cautious about. Whatever the reason one should always protect their interest. I think the tenant should pay with checks and have the landlord endorse it, that way the money can be traced.
2 people like this
@cream97 (29179)
• United States
14 Nov 08
The landlord would not accept a check from the tenant. It is something to be very cautious about.. Why, all of this time, did she not issue out an receipt to the tenant? But, yet this tenant owes her $1,000??
1 person likes this
@aero89 (422)
• United States
15 Nov 08
Even if you only wanted a receipt for a bag of M&M's, you're entitled to it. Here's how it is: No Receipt, No Payment. If they decide they want to "kick you out" for that, you should be able to set a court date to tell the judge. It probably won't go that far though; I'm guessing since they are knowingly using unethical (and probably illegal) business practices, they will give you a receipt if you demand one. What I would do: Check my state's landlord/tenant laws, find out to whom I should complain (if you can't find any info, tell the Better Business Bureau and they will more-than-likely contact them), and do it. Guy sounds like a slime ball who doesn't even deserve a chance... should be absolutely no reason to withhold receipts unless you're trying to hide something.
1 person likes this
@cream97 (29179)
• United States
15 Nov 08
Exactly! I am wondering if the Landlord is hiding something too.
1 person likes this
@aero89 (422)
• United States
16 Nov 08
I wish ya luck! Happy problem solving! hehe..
1 person likes this
@cream97 (29179)
• United States
16 Nov 08
Yes, the tenant will need it more than I will.. I will pass the luck onto them!
@camomom (7537)
• United States
14 Nov 08
I have had landlords that wouldn't give reeipts and they weren't the greatest landlords. I have a landlord now will give them but only if yu ask for it and I think that's ok. I don't get receipts because I always write checks and I can get my cancelled checks from my bank.
1 person likes this
@cream97 (29179)
• United States
14 Nov 08
Yes, that is so true.. That is why this tenant wanted to write the landlord out a check for the rent.. But, the landlord refused stating that she wanted the money in a money order... So, the tenant paid her this way. But the tenant has two copies of the money order stubs specifying that rent was paid.. The tenant wanted to write a check, but the landlord refused them to. If she had to let the tenant do it this way, then they would never be going through this in the first place.. It really is all her fault.. And then the lack of communication messed it up more too..
@camomom (7537)
• United States
14 Nov 08
The landlord should have given a receipt when they received the money order.
1 person likes this
@cream97 (29179)
• United States
14 Nov 08
She should have given one.. As a matter of fact she has never gave the tenant any receipts for all of the rent that was paid.. So, all the tenant has is his own personal receipts, the money order stub...
@angelia286 (2029)
• Singapore
14 Nov 08
Well, I don't think that there are such laws in Singapore, though what you have had said makes perfect sense. I too, have rented out some rooms in my house before to outsiders. And each time, it was based on trust, as such there is no official records such as receipts. I guess it all depends on whether or not the tenant and the landlords are the records people or are they people who prefer to conduct a partnership based on trust. In Singapore, majority of the landlords would requested a 1 month upfront deposit. This deposit is a security just in case the tenant does not pay up. In that event this deposit would get forfeited. I am not too sure how the system runs over in the USA. But, this is the way it is over in Singapore. Unless it is rental of business property, then there would be receipts issued for that purpose. Otherwise, personal wise there just isn't.
@cream97 (29179)
• United States
14 Nov 08
Well, here in the U.S. having a receipt is pretty much needed anytime you are giving out money.. This rental is not a business property.. There should be an receipt even though if it is for a personal purpose..
• Singapore
18 Nov 08
Now that is something new to me. I guess it's to protect the buyer and the seller's interest such that no one can deny paying or receiving money. Well thanks for sharing with me this information!
1 person likes this
@cream97 (29179)
• United States
19 Nov 08
You are very welcome! I was glad to share!
@rsa101 (13347)
• Philippines
18 Nov 08
Oh I think that should never be practiced at all. There may come a time when there is confusion of payments and the only one that a tenant can have is the rental receipts to prove that he has already paid for the month. Also for the purposes of paying taxers a receipt should be issued so that it can be reported to the IRS too. I think that should be the practice of every landlord.
1 person likes this
@cream97 (29179)
• United States
19 Nov 08
You are very right! This what the landlord did was totally out of hand!
@luvstochat (6917)
• United States
15 Nov 08
I never get a recepit from my landlord but I pay in check so my cancelled check is a receipt of payment if I ever paid in cash I would make her write me a receipt tough I watch to many tv judge shows and know the number one rule is always get a recepit!
1 person likes this
@cream97 (29179)
• United States
16 Nov 08
Yes, always get a receipt... That is the main thing!
• United States
15 Nov 08
Are you talking about paying with cash and not getting a receipt? I would NEVER, EVER pay for anything with cash and not get a receipt. If the person wants, they can even write their own receipt and get the landlord to sign it. If the landlord refuses to sign the receipt, I would refuse to give the money -- then go to see what a lawyer has to say. If you pay cash and you have no receipt, there is nothing at all to prove you paid, and your landlord could just claim you didn't pay and kick you out. Now, maybe most landlords, even one who doesn't give a receipt, wouldn't do that, it is unfair to ask anyone to pay cash and not give them a receipt. IF they won't give or sign a receipt, you could also get a money order, and keep the money order receipt for your records.
@cream97 (29179)
• United States
15 Nov 08
Right on!!! To the both of you.. This time, the tenant did not pay the rent in cash, it was paid by money order only. And yes they have two of the receipts of the money order stubs, proving that rent was paid..
@apples99 (6564)
• United States
15 Nov 08
That's a little strange most landlords usually give a receipt after a tenant pays there rent or at least gives them one if a tenant request it, if a landlord dosent give you written documentation and proof of rent payment they could say you didnt pay even if you did pay, rent thats why I feel much more comfortable when I get a receipt from my landlord but I dont know where your from there might be a different rules were you live.
1 person likes this
@cream97 (29179)
• United States
15 Nov 08
It is strange.. Not having a receipt can prove that no rent was never paid by the tenant.. I wonder if this was all planned by the landlord, to not give the tenant a receipt, so that it would appear that the tenant never paid her rent since living at her rental property.??
@clocks123 (1230)
• United States
15 Nov 08
i always ask for a receipt in writing from the landlord. she said to me your check you will be getting back from the bank shows you paid the rent, i said no i don't want it this way i want a written receipt that i paid you the rent period they are not going to itimidate me it is a legal document between you and the landlord
1 person likes this
@cream97 (29179)
• United States
15 Nov 08
Yes, you are right! Having a check is fine, but a written receipt is needed as well.
@dawnald (83879)
• Shingle Springs, California
14 Nov 08
It's both sides faults and if the landlord doesn't give a receipt, the tenant should insist. Or pay by check or money order!
1 person likes this
@cream97 (29179)
• United States
15 Nov 08
Yes, the tenant should insist on having a receipt. But, in this case they are not worrying about it because they have the money order receipt stub.. I say that is still not enough.. It is still is best to have the receipt from the landlord as well. The tenant did pay all rent by money order..
@PrarieStyle (2510)
• United States
14 Nov 08
Then you should pay the Landlord with a check or money order so you have a receipt or tell them you won't pay unless you get one. Even if it's just written, dated and signed on a plain piece of paper.
1 person likes this
@cream97 (29179)
• United States
14 Nov 08
Yes, the tenant paid the rent by money order but the landlord just never gave them a receipt either way.. You are right, a receipt will be fine just as long as it is printed and signed on a piece of paper.. Anything is better than nothing..
1 person likes this
@jesssp (2743)
• Canada
14 Nov 08
I was always given receipts for rent, even from private landlords. One apartment I lived in even had debit, which was very handy! You can buy blank receipt books at any stationary store so there is no reason for a landlord to not have them. If a landlord refuses to give receipts and refuses to accept cheques then it could be possible that they are renting illegally (not paying proper taxes or not carrying proper insurance etc). Other than using cheques to pay rent and have proof bank drafts or money orders should be fine as long as they say who you are paying and for what. Just never, ever give someone cash money with no proof you gave it to them - it doesn't matter if it's for rent, a car or whatever, always make sure you have proof with a receipt, returned cheque or money order/bank draft copy.
1 person likes this
@cream97 (29179)
• United States
14 Nov 08
Yes you are right! I wonder if this landlord is doing something illegal? This would be a good time to find out if this landlord is practicing something against the law.. I will know of this next week.. If this is wrong, then they will be in trouble..
@relundad (2312)
• United States
14 Nov 08
The tenant should pay in a manner that allows him to prove receipt of payment. All certified funds are traceable. Your checks are traceable. The only thing that you can't prove is cash. And I am not sure why anyone would pay cash and not get a receipt.
1 person likes this
@cream97 (29179)
• United States
14 Nov 08
Yes, you are right! The tenant has enough sense to not pay by cash! The tenant is very smart in making sure that they keep all records of what they have paid someone.. They would never be that stupid.. I am glad that they are not either..
• United States
14 Nov 08
My apartment complex does not issue reciepts. I use my canceled check as a receipt. Personally I think it's a bit redundant to issue receipts if you're paying with a check. When the complex or person cashes or deposits your check, you'll know that you paid and if anything comes up, all you have to do is show a copy of that check. Now if you pay in cash or with a money order, I can see that. But then again, money orders can be traced if you keep the top or the side portion from the place you got the MO from. I personally have always used checks and once had to get a cashier's check from the bank as we ran out of checks (oops) but we've never had a problem with our complex telling us we didn't pay rent when we did.
1 person likes this
@cream97 (29179)
• United States
14 Nov 08
This tenant paid by money order.. The landlord refused to accept an personal cashier check from the tenant when they offered to pay rent this way.. So, fsom that the tenant paid rent from the money order.. And yes, they have the copy of the stub of it too.
1 person likes this
@royal52gens (5362)
• United States
14 Nov 08
I would not trust that landlord very much at all. I would protect myself by paying by check or money order. I would also document each transaction on a spreadsheet. I would bring my own receipt book and ask the landlord to sign my receipt to show he received the money. Then I would give him a copy of the receipt.
1 person likes this
@cream97 (29179)
• United States
14 Nov 08
Yes, having your own personal receipt would work in this case.. Since the landlord refuses to issue one out.. The tenant did pay with money orders and they have a copy of the money order stub to prove that they have been paying the landlord rent. The landlord just never gave the tenant a receipt.
@ronnyb (6125)
• Jamaica
25 Dec 09
Yes that landlord is very unscrupulous and you should be wary of him .He can always say that you didnt pay him and you would have any evidence that you did .So I think you should demand a receipt everytime you pay so that you have something that will hold up in a court of law in the event that it comes to that
1 person likes this