Unhappily married, but not willing to change it...?

@tklich (391)
United States
December 1, 2008 8:44pm CST
I have a friend that is pretty much in a dead end marriage. The things she tells me about her marriage is unbelievable to me. It began when she flat out told me that she was in love with another man when she got married. They got pregnant before they were married, so I truly believe that's why they ended up getting married. I really don't think they would have stayed together long enough to get married if she wouldn't have gotten pregnant. But she tells me about how they were really happy and had a lot of fun at first, but that pretty much died. They are never intimate, which I really believe is a big problem. I believe that intimacy in a relationship is a big part of keeping your love alive. But she says that every night one of them is sleeping on the couch while the other one is in the bed. He goes places some evenings and she has no idea where he's at, yet she doesn't suspect he's cheating on her. She says she'll never leave him becase she "doesn't have the balls to leave". They have two kids, so that may be a factor in her decisions. I think she also depends on his paychecks to support her lifestyle as well. Does this sound like an unhealthy life to live? I'm very concerned about her unhapiness and really do want her to be happy. Is there any way I can try to help her??! But I also think I should stay out of it and let her choose the way she wants to live her life. Wouldn't she be better off leaving him and starting a new life without him? I've never been in this situation and I know it would be a hard one to be in. Has anyone experienced anything relative to this? Any input on the situation would be greatly appreciated. I just want the best for her, because she truly is a good person and deserves better than what she has right now.
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14 responses
• United States
2 Dec 08
I have know of several people including myself that have stayed in relationships way to long. The most common reason is for the kids and the fact that for many of us that is all that we knew our entire adulthood so the fear of the unknown is great. I always found myself wanting to go back even though I knew that I no longer felt the same way that I once had. I knew that the only reason that we were even together was because I had gotten pregnant. I never wanted my daughter to think that was why we got together so I continued to stick it out. The people that tried to give me advice I always found away to push away from me. I had to make the decision that it was time for me to leave not anyone else. I had to know that it was truly over and that their was nothing left for me to give before I could finally say that I had had enough and it was time for me to move on. Your friend will have to figure out what her feelings are and if she is ready to go before she will. Give her some time and I am sure that she will know when it is time to go. Until then just give her support and be there if she needs you.
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@tklich (391)
• United States
2 Dec 08
Thank you so much for the response. I'm really glad you shared your experience, it sounds as though it relates a lot to what my friend is going through, therefore I trust a lot in your suggestions. I think deep down I knew she would ultimately have to be the one to decide what was best for her, that it would be useless trying to help her make any decisions, but I feel so bad for her and how unhappy she is. She has stressed to me the fact of how lonely she is, and that's one of the worst feelings in the world. I truly appreciate your suggestions and will choose to leave it be, but fully support her on what she chooses to do with her life. Thank you so much!
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• Philippines
2 Dec 08
I guess pregnancy should not be a reason to be together then. My brother has a kid with his girlfriend and he's not talking about marriage but the family of the girl is nagging both of them about it. The psychiatrist-friend (who is also an expert on annulment) told my parents that they should not allow the union because most of it would only end up in separation. As you mentioned about your experiences, indeed pregnancy doesn't prove that the union is solid. I guess, you yourself, and not being pregnant, should be the one to decide whether or not you'd go the path that's in front of you. Similarly, I think the effect of pregnancy to men is that they're being trapped. They can't do anything about it, so even if they don't really love you, they'd go for it because 'there's a kid involved', it isn't really very selfish but doesn't guarantee that it would work. Why? Well, for one thing, man like to 'pursue' their women. They don't like to be pursued, nor do they want to have to be in a life that they didn't have a choice of. It's just sad though, there are so many people who are getting separated every year, come to think of it, I have a lot of batchmates and friends in highschool who have gotten pregnant and was married, and most of them are now separated.
@rsa101 (37968)
• Philippines
2 Dec 08
I can sense that she is trying to save her marriage. I think we all experience the same thing in marriage at some point in time, when everything stays the same and the romance has already gone. For this one, it is right that you do not involve yourself into this one since I guess in the end it is her that should decide on this matter since this is her personal decision to make for herself. I think you should just support her in all her decision. Right now, I guess for the children sake then that must be a noble reason for her to decide on. It is especially hard on the children to understand this to happen on them and just as devastating as it is for them. I think what only lacks in that relationship is communication. Having dialogue is very important especially at this point in time. Maybe both might have to compromise about how they would like to see the future of their partnership would be. Separating is one way but there are many option to consider when it comes to being happy in the circumstance they are in.
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@tklich (391)
• United States
2 Dec 08
Thank you for your response. You fixated on the fact that there are kids involved, and I think it is a major factor in her decisions at this time. Both the kids are still at home, and one is fairly young yet. I know it would be hard for them to understand what was going on if they divoriced. Communication is the number one key to a successful relationship. None of us are mind readers, you can't expect others to know what you are thinking. You must communicate with each other to make things work. I know this from experience, and I've been told this many many times. Thank you for your thoughts on this topic.
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• Philippines
2 Dec 08
Isn't there something they could do? I mean, they did come to the point of loving each other. How could they not rekindle the relationship? I don't think ALL of the relationship that started with pregnancy won't work, there are those who's marriage did work. Unless of course both were too immature and had no plans of ever being together - sort of they were just at a fling when someone got pregnant. Yet, I believe there will always be a way to settle things. Separation should not be the primary option.
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@rsa101 (37968)
• Philippines
2 Dec 08
Like what I said communication between the two could or easily resolved things out.
@LittleMel (8742)
• Canada
2 Dec 08
I have never had that problem so I don't know what to suggest aside that you will do what a friend would do. Be there for her because she definitely needs you. Things may turn out bad for her it seems it has started. As you said, the guy goes to places leave her alone already. she is not trapped, she just thinks she is. it would be good if she can get advice from professional too.
@tklich (391)
• United States
2 Dec 08
Thank you for the response. I'm very glad that she has opened up to me about this topic. She has told me things that she has only told to me and another friend of ours. She's told us how she doesn't have very many close friends at all that she can confide in, so I know she's desperately reaching out for a friend to talk to also. By being in an unhappy marriage and not having many friends, I'm sure she is VERY lonely at this point in her life. I'm just glad that she feels that she can talk to me about things and confides in me. Thank you for your advice.
@ravinskye (8237)
• United States
2 Dec 08
My husband and I have hit some rough patches. I felt like that. I was unhappy and wanted to leave but when it came down to it I couldn't do it. It is a really scary thing to start over on your own. I think there really isn't anything you can do. If she is choosing to stay then she has made her choice. If she is really unhappy she will leave when she is ready. Offer your help if she wants to leave. Then let her decide what she wants to do and support her no matter what she decides.
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@tklich (391)
• United States
2 Dec 08
Thank you for the response. I'm newly married, so I don't have any experiences remotely close to this. I couldn't even imagine thinking of leaving my husband. Something very drastic would have to happen for me to even think that. I'm glad to hear what your thoughts on this subject, it has confirmed what I've been thinking, and I will for sure stay back and let her choose what she wants to do from here on out, yet I will stand beside her the whole time and support her every decision. She deserves to be happy, so I trust she will choose what is best for her. Thank you so much!
@applefreak (3130)
• Singapore
2 Dec 08
well it's certainly surprising that they have two children without being intimate. i guess your friend isn't really unhappy. i think she just want to whine about it. sometimes we do whine about our situation even though we are not unhappy. another thing is we can only help those who want to help themself. what can you do for her when she doesn't want to leave her husband? we all choose our way of life and no one is living a 'better' life than others. just be there for her when she needs you and i believe that's the best you can do for her. cheers
@tklich (391)
• United States
2 Dec 08
Thank you for the response. First of all, when I stated that they aren't intimate, I meant within the last several years. Their youngest child is 8 or 9 I believe, so obviously it's been a while since she's conceived. I truly believe she is unhappy in her marriage though because others have noticed things that she hasn't even spoken to with about her marriage, as in indications that things may not be like they should at home. But that's just my opinion that she is unhappy. It's so hard to detemine what people want these days, maybe she is looking for some attention if she doesn't have many friends. Maybe she's exagerating about how bad her marriage really is. Maybe she came to me about it because she has been thinking about her own marriage because I just recently got married. Who knows what it is, but she's screaming for help, and I'll be here to support her when she needs me.
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@mods196621 (3652)
• Philippines
2 Dec 08
She really in a hard situation, being married to a man and have kids is a perfect combination of family and that was ideal. Looks happy family. But the case of your friends is differ from that ideal one. As you wish to help her please tell her to think over what she really want to her life. Set the priority and look at her kids. I believe that when she got marriage she loves her husband. Think from the very beginning of their marital relationship. From where she meet her husband to the time he proposed a marriage until the time they got kids. How they live. Is that for love or for security reason. I know that woman is not hard to be in love if a guy was thoughtful and loving. try to look back and then to the present Let her out first the guy that she was now in love. Try to focused on her family only then balance the situation from the advantages to disadvantages. Then what does she feel. She can carry to lose her family or to have personal happiness. Figure out the main problem and try to have he solution by means of communication between the husband and wife only. A heart to heart and close door talk. This is what exactly happened to me. On the first place we analized what is the main problem then find the solutions. And the final is, examined ourselces and consult our hearts if there is a LOVE. And the miracle happened we still love each other. From now on we are together and live happily. You can help her explain what is right. And ask the help of God.
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@tklich (391)
• United States
2 Dec 08
Thank you so much for the advice. I really like how you put everything in perspective. I find your thoughts very helpful to me, and I will definitely use your suggestions and advice when I talk with her again about her marriage. Love is so hard to determine at times, but I think she knows what her heart is telling her, but unfortunately her heart and her mind aren't agreeing right now. Thank you for the response and happy myLotting!
@shonali (1286)
• India
2 Dec 08
well i know a couple too who is in a very unhappy relationships but fortunately dont really have any children as of now....but i wonder why they are really trying to work it out when neither one of them is really truly interested...the only reason they are trying is that they dont want the divorce thing to come up and then the family problems to start i guess.... but i think that the couples should really reconsider all the options they have in front of them cos in this case neither will the mother be happy, nor the father and nore the children.... sometimes seperation isnt always the last option..there is counselling too but when that too doesnt work then the seperation should happen mutually... it does fall alittle too hard on the kids but they get used to it in the end.... but its atleast better than having a big unhappy family....as for you to say or advice them regarding their marriage is totally up to you as sometimes it could be a boon to them and sometimes it may lash back on you.... i still repent advicing my best friend about her relationship with her boyfrend though i gave her the right advice and she still thanks me for it...but there were many other people who still tell me that i shouldnt hav egone between the two as i might also have been the reason they are seperate where as they could have solved their differences and moved on together.... so i really dont know whether to feel happy that i was right about ending the relationship or was i wrong in coming between two people who could have been happy with each other.... i would advice you to not get too deep in their life right now...just be a good support to your friendwhen she needs it thats all and if she does ask you for advice then tell her to sit with her husband too at the time of giving the advice if you have any
• Philippines
2 Dec 08
What can I advice is, it's up to them really. It's for them to decide what they should do in their marriage. If it is okay for them to be in that situation even if they have no love or if someone is already cheating then let them be. But I think that kind of relationship will not last for long.
• Philippines
2 Dec 08
Hi tklich.. I felt bad about women who stays with their marriage not out of love but out of responsibility with their children. If I will be on a situation like this I will of course get out from it as fast as I can after realizing that the relationship is way over already. With your friend, I guess you have to stay out of it. It might be good to give an advice by telling her to assess the relationship better but not to pushy about it. It would be best that she will decide on things because she see the need of it. *sigh! I just wish her all the best and hope she can decide on things that will be for the best of her and their children. Thats why maybe Im so afraid to take a vow because I am not financially stable. I always have this personal outlook in marriage that a woman should not depend financially on her husband so when things go wrong, she would be able to pick up the pieces and be whole again.
@dookie03 (578)
• United States
2 Dec 08
I don't know i think that would be a tough one but something that she would have to do for herself. I mean money isn't everything and besides he would be the one losing money there. It's always the man that loses the money and the woman takes everything, doesn't she know that. That's why i don't ever want to get divorced either. But the funny thing is even me and my wife have had our tiffs but always go to bed together. I've never had to sleep on the couch and i hope i never will. But for you i'd say let her work it out with her husband and the best thing i'd suggest is maybe marriage counseling or something.
@piya84 (2581)
• India
2 Dec 08
hey i am realy sory for ur frend....yah give her time...give her ur moral support..but they have to take their own decision..she is in unhappy marriage agree..but if she get separate is she realy gonna happy?i mean u all people know ..raising kids without partner is difficult thing...financialy also..dats the reason she is nt daring to end relationship..its better she make sure before living sdat she will ba able to raise kids alone.
• United States
2 Dec 08
Take your friend to many events and introduce her to lots of men. Eventually she will find someone else and divorce her husband.
• United States
2 Dec 08
Take your fiend to special events and introduce her to lots of guys. Eventually she will find someone else and divorce her husband.
• United States
2 Dec 08
If the husband knew about the other man in her life, before they got married would he have married her with out a blood test. If she had the balls to leave she would not be there to start with. Have a serious talk with your friend. What would she do with her life if HE left her for anotherd woman. Now times are bad,probably hard to find a JOB to support and two kids. Get out first and get child support or alamony if possable. IF YOUR FRIEND is unhappy now will she be happier in 5 years or so. Weigh the pros and cons with your friend and let her make the decission on her own.
@tklich (391)
• United States
2 Dec 08
Thank you for the response. She tells me how unhappy and lonely she is, but doesn't have the balls to leave her husband. So I pointed out to her, if you're unhappy now, what difference is it going to make if you leave him? I have tried to make her picture in her mind how things would be if she actually did leave him, but I haven't gotten anything out of her as to what she sees life being like. I'm sure she has thought about it many times though. But apparently things would be to tough because as of right now she has no intentions on leaving. It's definitely a hard situation to be in, and I pray that I never have to make a decision like that in my lifetime.