Jesus, the Man and the Myth.

Thailand
February 12, 2009 10:35pm CST
Separating the historical Jesus from and the myth is a difficult and possibly impossible task. History does not give us any contemporary accounts written while Jesus was alive. This is not as odd as it may seem on first look. The Jesus of the Bible was an itinerant Jewish rabbi who would not have drawn the attention of the scribes and chroniclers of his day. The group that was his followers and students were small and if what we believe of them is true, mostly illiterate. The first written historical accounts from a Jewish historian and two or three Roman writers speak not so much about Jesus as about early Christianity. We're left with the Bible and other gospels written after Jesus’ death. Using the Bible as a source is somewhat problematic. The Bible that we have today represents the gospels chosen by a council chosen by the Emperor Constantine 400 years after the death of Jesus to advance the needs of empire. The gospels selected were intended to advance the Christian Church as a political entity, intended act as a unifying force to solidify Constantin's control of his empire. If Jesus was to be the center point of this religion the times demanded that he shared the attributes of the God men who were at the heart of the other mystery religions prevalent at the time and go them one better. This is the point where the man was lost and the myth arose. The God men at that time shared several characteristics in common. Most were born of a virgin, fathered by some sort of God, could work miracles, met their death and some particularly grizzly matter and arose from the dead. If Jesus were to have any credibility at all he had to demonstrate these characteristics so they became part of the myth. Was there a historical Jesus? The answer must be; probably yes but the myth must be separated from the man to view his importance in the true light of day. The tragedy of today’s Christianity is that it has become centered on the myth and in doing so has lost what is important. The virgin birth, the crucifixion and subsequent resurrection have become all important. These are the myth and not the reality. Jesus the Savior has cast a long dark shadow over the real story of Jesus the rabbi. The teachings of Jesus that should be the center point of Christianity are lost or minimized when they are what should be all important.
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@barehugs (8973)
• Canada
13 Feb 09
Congratulations on this well researched, and educational piece. I enjoyed reading it so much I read it all over again. If I were writing it( and I wish I had) I would have said the same. Its a pity that Christianity has lost the Lesson in favor of the Myth, but alas this is the case. I've read the same story of the virgin birth, crucifiction,and resurrection, that supposedly happened in Egypt thousands of years previous to the Miraculous Palestinian life of Jesus. There can be no doubt of the facts here as this Egyptian story has been well documented.
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• Thailand
14 Feb 09
Thanks. There are a couple typos but on the whole I am happy with what I have written.
16 Feb 09
Wow very good article here. I would have to add a few things, as for contemporary writings there is some mention also in the Talmud, but not of any significance in supporting Jesus as the Son of God. Jesus historically had to be a real person, but during the time of Jesus others came coming to be the messiah, and one must also know really what the term means. Messiah or in Greek Christ, means anointed. and the term Son of God is another term that needs to be clarified. Both Messiah and Son of God point to the same thing, "The Kink of Israel", The king of Israel was known as the Son of God, the people of Israel were called sons of God, plural and small "s" or "ha-Ben Elohim" and "beni Elohim" The King of Israel was the anointed one of God, THE SON of GOD, another tem of the Son of God would be "Son of David", because only one from the line of David had legitimate claim to the thrown of Israel. So when the Jews went to Pilot saying Jesus was calling himself King of Israel and "The Son of God (Ha-Ben Elohim) it was not a religious connotation but one of Treason and Sedition. They were making the accusation of treason. And further said we have no king but Cesar, this is also why the sign above the head of Jesus said that "He claimed to be King of Israel" not that he claimed to be the Son of God. It was not until much later that the people began to identify Jesus as divinity. This was mainly done I believe by the Romans, It was further Myth-ed into this by relating Jesus to the other Sun deities, Like Mithra and others because of some similarities in the stories, this is also why his birthday was moved up to DEC 25th. Jesus seemed to be by his own words a prophet of the age, Age meaning the astral procession of the zodiac. Every 2000 plus years the equinox lines up in a new constellation. The appearance of Jesus coincided with the age of Pisces, the fish, which would be the reasoning of the repetitive mentioning of fish, and his first apostles being fishermen and the early symbol of Christianity being a fish. This age replaced the age of Aries, the ram, which is also why he was called a Shepard. before that it was Taurus, this is when the Hebrews were in Egypt and the Bull or calf was the symbol of the religious worship, and replaced with a lamb, or ram later by the Israelites during Aries. It is notable that Jesus is to return with living water, and of course the next procession would be that of Aquarius, the water barer. But before that a strange anomaly appears, there is actually 13 signs in the Zodiac, but because it is very high in the sky it does not line up very often and is not mentioned in the general zodiac, but the earth is lining up right now with this constellation, the consolation of Opeacus, the serpent holder, and its two deacon's, they are known as the unholy trinity, and is tied to the "man of Sin" or the "beast", another note is we will directly line up with this constellation on 12-29-2012. The area is know as the riff, or as it was known to the ancients as "the abyss".
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@Frederick42 (2024)
• Canada
15 Feb 09
The historical Jesus is lost. Moreover, there were many people with the name 'Yeshua'. Yeshua was a common name. The four gospels do not shed proper light on the historical Jesus. There are flaws that they contain, the material is such that we cannot come to a logical conclusion that it was written by eye-witnesses. Personally, I consider Jesus as a spiritual person, possibly enlightened. Most of his life appears to be a copy of contemporary Pagan myths.
@mmiceli (382)
14 Feb 09
This is incredibly one sided and not truthful. You must have copied this from another message board and assumed it sounded educated. This all is very wrong.
• Thailand
14 Feb 09
I deeply resent the implication that I plagiarized this. It is an original piece of writing and I am the person who wrote it. If it is one sided it is because historical fact can only have one side. If you feel that any part of this is incorrect dispute it with facts. If your disagreement is based only on a personal and unsupported opinion it has little significance to me or anyone else. The old saying is operative here; "Put up or shut up!"
• Philippines
13 Feb 09
i do believe that there is a historical Jesus. unfortunately, as you have mentioned, the Jesus that we know now are somewhat due to what some people manipulated us to believe. He was depicted more of a divine god rather than a man which he also is. so what if Jesus married or if He had offsprings, he was also human and it does not make him become less of a God. i think if the church has let Jesus' human side be known to christians, we would not have a lot of trouble identifying with him. if the church has shown that Jesus was also as human as we are, we would emulate him more and lead us to live better christian lives.
• Philippines
13 Feb 09
i am a roman catholic. i don't have plans of changing religions, it's just that there as some doctrines of our church that are a bit... i don't know how to describe them. you are right in saying that aiming to live like jesus is to live a life of perfection. but is there such a thing as a perfect man? let's say that we live exemplary lives and all but we are bound to commit mistakes, like make wrong decisions, say words that hurt even if we don't mean to and things like that. if the church talks more on how human jesus also is then we could identify more to him, to his struggles and pains.
@ROYALG333 (126)
• United States
13 Feb 09
All I have to say is that either way, myth or fact, Jesus is the most popular human being ever to walk our planet. Growing up I was not religious at all and Jesus was kind of taboo for me. But after giving it a chance and looking at what he did on the planet, beyond the miracles and resurrection, you find that his character and his being was greatly radical for his time. You also see that he was the ultimate philanthropist. I think the division is there because so many people who knew about the coming messiah had a different vision of what the savior of the earth would look like. I am sure the people in his day expected "THE SAVIOR: SUPER STORM CONTROLLING THUNDER THROWING GIANT WHO WILL RESTORE ORDER ON EARTH!" Instead we got "a humble shepherd" As a born again christian, I found that these stories whether true or not teach us a tremendous amount of good will and how we ought to be and treat each other on this planet. I am also aware that many people have done many terrible things in the name of Christianity. But if you analyze Christianity, you find that many of those people were not really following the word of God.
• Indonesia
14 Feb 09
wow..wow..wow... you touch a sensitive problem in the world, buddy...