Only YOU can STOP WWIII!

United States
March 30, 2009 11:19am CST
Yes, it is true. The deficits currently being put on the ledgers by the U.S.A. are too large to be paid back. So, is there an alternative to paying back the debt that does not involve the U.S.A. defaulting on that debt? Yes, there is another way. What's that got to do with WWIII? Just this. Debt is not paid back to entities no longer in existence. The U.S.A. could destroy the People's Republic of China in a war and thus wipe out the U.S.A.'s biggest monetary obligation. So, you think that could never happen? Let me refreash some memories of history from WWII in the pacific against Japan. WWII in the pacific was not about the attack on Pearl Harbor in a strategic sense, only the tactical sense. Strategically, the war with Japan was about the Japanese developing as a modern industrialized nation that could compete in the world markets of manufacturing. To impede this possibility of the Japanese entering world markets selling their industrialized output, the major industrialized nations of the world conspired to drive up the costs of raw materials to the Japanese making them uncompetitive. In order to survive as a modern industrialized nation, the Japanese attacked Pearl Harbor with the intent to cripple the US NAVY while the Japanese conquered enough resources in the Pacific to have their own raw materials. We all know how that worked out. But then again, the Japanese now do dominate in many fields of international trade so the Japanese, in effect, won WWII, but that is another story. The point is, the US GOVERNMENT is not above lying to its people about going to war over economic matters that would make the people blush with embarrasement if they knew the truth of the matter. As to a possible WWIII with China, here's the developing scenario. 1. Sell as much debt to China as is possible, more than could be paid back. 2. Contrive a situation for China to attack us. 3. Go nuclear on China. 4. Establish a new government in China unconnected to the previous administration. 5. Write history to show that instead of the U.S.A. robbing the Chinese blind and then murdering them, the evil despotic tryanical Chinese attacked the benevolent freedom loving U.S.A. without provocation and the heroic Americans brought freedom and democracy to China. While all the above sounds crazy, we have the unpleasant precedent of what happened with Japan in WWII. That makes the above within the realm of possiblility. The only way I know to absolutely prevent the above admittedly "crazy" events from happening is to stop this chain of events at step number 1. I say No stimulus package, no bailouts, no more trillion dollar deficits, no WWIII! What do you say?
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@Destiny007 (5820)
• United States
30 Mar 09
Your idea does have merit... however I don't think such a war would benefit either side. China has already got serious doubts about the amount of our debt that they are carrying, and that was one of the reasons for Clinton recent visit... to reassure them and secure more financing. I think there is another possibility... one that is already being discussed. That would be to replace the dollar as a reserve currency with something a bit more stable. China is considering that, as is Gettner, as several other countries as well. We would be the big losers in that scenario, and there has been talk for some time about going to a new currency here anyway. As to war, it seems that everytime a country gets too far into debt... or the economy gets too bad, they go to war. Not only does that help cull the herd, it also eliminates one side or the other... which ties into what you said in the first place. Some of the things I have watched and read recently indicate that unending war is a necessity for our economic survival.... which tells me that our government has failed, and the military/industrial/banking cartel is dictating our foreign policy. I say we need to take back our country, and whip our government back into line. I say we also need to end the FED and prosecute those criminals who comprise it, pull out of the UN, and send them elsewhere. We need to clean our government from top to bottom, and we need to eliminate things like the CFR, and all of those New World Order, and Globalists from our midst. We also need to drag those communists out of our schools, and get teacher who actually believe in America, our Constitution, and the things that made us great. In short, we have to rebuild America back to what it began as, and what it used to stand for.
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• United States
30 Mar 09
All you recommend only requires voters to think. We have our work cut out for us. I do hope your non war scenario is correct.
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@debrakcarey (19924)
• United States
23 Jul 09
Now I do agree on what's needed. But I do not see the American people having the backbone to do it. After several generations of being brainwashed by those 'communist' in the Department of Education and the sweeping changes being implimented by this administration...we'll see martial law and patriots sent to FEMA camps to cool their jets...or worse. Sooner or later, someone will get around to attacking Israel or Israel will attack Iran...and POOF! WWIII. America is done being a world power...we kicked God out, we allow the killing of innocents by the hundreds of thousands a year and we have thrown out morality and ethics in favor of lust and greed. We are rotten at the core as a society and that is why we are seeing the trampling of not only law and order in our courts, but the very core of our law, the Constitution itself.
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• United States
24 Jul 09
Yep...
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@PrarieStyle (2495)
• United States
31 Mar 09
It sure feels like something is bound to take us to WWIII. It's hard to keep up with it all. Our freedoms are being attacked from all directions. You would think people would be doing all they could to preserve freedom. So many in the world are fighting to destroy freedom while so many of us are just living life as usual not even noticing that, America and other free nations are the minority in the world today.
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• United States
2 Apr 09
True, sooner or later there is bound to be another big war. Technology has tremendously changed the nature of warfare, though. It is hard to imagine what it would be like. There can be no mass invasion. Spy sattelites prevent armies from hiding and even navies except for submarines. Indirect weapons are now too accurate for many to survive. On the one hand war seems inevitable, on the other, it is now too deadly to pursue with no way for anyone to win. This should be interesting to see what happens.
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@speakeasy (4215)
• United States
30 Mar 09
No one person can stop this from happening. The stimulus package is already a FACT - it is already being implemented. Bailouts have already taken place and more are already in the planning stages. Trillion dollar deficits are already here. Even if someONE were to assassinate Obama - it wouldn't change a thing - Biden and Congress would see to that. If you honestly believe all of this will lead to WWIII; then, it is already TOO LATE.
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• United States
31 Mar 09
The "you" in only you can stop WWIII is the same "you" as in "Only YOU can prevent FOREST FIRES!". It is meant as a collective you. However, I did not make that clear and apologize for not being clear. It is not that I believe this WILL lead to WWIII, it is that I am quite sure it could or might lead to WWIII. My experience as a military officer and study of history convinces me without doubt this is a possible scenario. The only way to prevent this from happening for sure, because as you point out, most of the debt is already incurred, is to bring it out into the open so the plot could not be executed without people being aware of it. As to assassinating 0bama, that is so stupid it would redefine stupid. 0bama is not central or necessary for WWIII to happen. In fact, anything other than voting 0bama out of office might increase the chance of war. The killing of JFK probably escalated the VietNam War, if you want a precedent for assassination increasing the liklyhood of war. It is not too late to prevent this war. Remember, I did not say these things WILL lead to war. They COULD lead to war. Let me say it one last time. It is never too late to prevent war.
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@speakeasy (4215)
• United States
31 Mar 09
Now that you clarified your "you" is not a single person but a collective "you" - it still does not make any real difference. While assassinating Obama is an act that a single person could attempt to carry out; as I pointed out it would not make a difference. Even if the "collective you" were to complain about the debts, stimulus, etc. - it will not make a difference. These things have already happened. So, we are aware of the potential causes of WWIII - the "collective you" is still not in a position to prevent it from happening. These forces have already been set in motion.
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• United States
1 Apr 09
Thank you for your response. Any ideas?
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• United States
2 Apr 09
I agree...but I think there will be more stimulus packages, no matter what we want. I protested in a major city near me about this. We have seen lots of protests going on. Yet, it does not seem to matter what we want. Obama seems to be in control. I do not see him listening. I don't see him caring. He is unlike any other American president I have ever seen in office. And he is very protected. There could be millions of people against him, and there probably are, but his protection is stronger. Look at him. What is the big deal about him? Not much, but his color sells. Why, it is so historic. Look at other countries. Look at their "leaders" and what some of them did. Who were they? Not much...but they equally protected and people did their bid. If Obama had been white..he is bi-racial, but very few people who voted for him see him that way...would all of those people had voted for him? No...
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• United States
2 Apr 09
What there is about 0bama that protects him seems to be the media. This seems absurd until you realize how much money there is behind 0bama and that the CIA has been known for years to have key editors and reporters on their payroll. Just one example that has been in regular media about this is that Gloria Stineium admitted once the CIA helped her to start MS magazine. It was part of a project to change the attitudes of women. Why? Who knows? Why 0bama? Probably that he wanted the job bad enough to do as told. I say that because his actions are obviously foolish, stupid, and short sided. Only a low intelligent toady with a chip on his shoulder would do these things.
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• United States
6 Apr 09
It wouldn't surprise me if they CIA wants a socialist country for us. More control for them.
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• United States
6 Apr 09
That makes sense. It certainly seems the CIA is a self serving entity with long term goals other than to provide the nation with intelligence info.
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• United States
2 Apr 09
I had written something really good, but it all got wiped out. I'm friggin' pissed. Anyhow, crap... too much scotch.
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• United States
2 Apr 09
I hate it when that happens!
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