Sad Day: President is not Proud of Country!

United States
April 4, 2009 6:44pm CST
We may not be a perfect country but it is a sad day indeed when our commander in chief goes on foreign soil and say America has been arrogant, derisive and dismissive or Europe when we should appreciate their leadership! I dont know how you feel about these statements but for me it is the worst thing a President could do, to go on foreign soil and say things like this! What is your opinion? http://abcnews.go.com/Politics/story?id=7246844&page=1 Link from ABC
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@bing28 (3795)
• Philippines
5 Apr 09
Am not from America but I would feel much disappointed as well. I love America and have so many online friends there. Presidents should be proud of their countries and especially for the people who trusted them. So many or almost all countries are looking up to America as the no.1 and the best when it comes to everything especially leadership and it must be kept that way. I haven't seen the video on this but I just hope he's just airing a little disappointment leading to a constructive conclusion.
@dfollin (24276)
• United States
8 Apr 09
Yes, the president should be proud of this country.We should be disappointed in ourselves for not following thru with what the president asks to get this country in shape.There are some of us who agree with him and doing what we can to help.But,then there are many people such as some of the staff from AIG that will not return the funds.There is one person that says that he will not give it back to the government but to a charity.That is not his money to give.Look at some of the people who post on here putting the president down and then at the same time expecting him to be proud of them. If you noticed that a soldier shouted that they loved President Obama and he returned the comment.He is proud of the people that are sharing their compasion with him and are working with him.But,in general we are a bunch of cry babies.Remember what President Kennedy said,"Ask what you can do for your country,not what they can do for you." Right now this country is in a bad spot and we all need to remember that great statement.
• United States
8 Apr 09
dfolin- If they didnt want AIG to have the bonuses then the clause allowing it should have never gone into the bail out. It was allowed by government officials, in fact a last minute clause was put in that let them have it. Then to look good the government cried fowl! Who are cry babies in that situation? The soldiers also applauded and showed love for President Bush, I dont think anyone believes that was a statement on his presidency? We should do for our country, but blindly following leadership is not always doing what is best for this country now is it? President Obama is Not the US of America, he is simply her leader and serving one does not neccesarily mean serving the other!
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
5 Apr 09
This progressive movement in the world is nothing new at all. Today, it's considered "left" thinking to say that America is a bully (more or less) and that the entire world should come together. This way of thinking has been around since civilization has been around. Back in the time of Alexander, Caesar, Egypt's rule, Khan, etc, the "progressives" were called conquered. Some progressives of yesteryear were living together in their civilizations. They had no money, no defense, not even an offense. What they relied on was the good nature of men. Sadly, as they found out, all men are duplicitous. They were repeatedly wiped off the map by conquerers. And what came from it? Well, the modern civilizaton that today's progressives try to hard to change was forged from war! Without America's bully-like nature, our country and most of the free world would be DRASTICALLY different. The world's high standards were set by American capitalisim. American forces have helped many a European country. And now we're the bullies that must apologize? Why? It's not like Europe would ever band together and cause more harm than some Bush bashing. Spain caved in to terrorists demands. Germany's acting scared. Remove America, and Spain might be conquered by Jihadists! Let me tell you progressives what's what, if you're listening. You do not know how to run a country! Sharing does not work! Holding hands does not work! Catering to children while letting them run rampant does not work! Killing religion for the sake of "free" thinking does not work! Your plan will not work! Take away America's armed forces and the terrorists on their Jihad kick will bring the entire world to its knees in years! Once people start trying to take over your countries, you pu$$ies, you'll be BEGGING America - the big, bad bully - to save your skin. Wake up. Thanks to America, your countries are infinitely better than they would be without our SUPER POWER presence in the world. I do agree that it is a WONDERFUL idea for every country to be "equal" and for every man to have a little bit of wealth. But that's not the world. Trying to make that the world will enable the people who disagree with you to put you in chains and control your life! Keep on pressing your luck and see what happens. Bush should be given all the credit in the world for not turning his back on y'all like you turned it on us! We're only bullies to cry-babies.
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@dfollin (24276)
• United States
8 Apr 09
Well,actually I wish I had decided to become a weather person because they are over paid if you ask me.Most of the time they are wrong and still earn a lot.I agree it is a great idea for every country to be equal,but no one wants to work with the president.People just want the president to fix everything yesterday while they are complaining.The only people he can be proud of right now is the military.They are definitly working with him.
• United States
6 Apr 09
You know many people were upset when Bush walked out on talks before the war in Iraq. I will be the first person to say I have no idea whether we should have gone in there or not, but I know this when my president stood up and said you know what this is what we believe is right and we will go with or without you, I was a proud American! (I think he was talking to France?) He may have been wrong, I dont know but it was good in my eyes that he did what he thought was right and to he11 with those who didnt agree.
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• United States
6 Apr 09
Exactly. America's Commander in Chief doesn't have time (in any sense of the word) to constantly appease everyone. In hindsight, a lot of things America did were not the smartest moves. But there's nothing that can be done about that. The people and countries who were disagreeing with us don't suddenly earn a medal because some things went badly. It's not like America and Bush would be screaming "In your face, b1tches" to the naysayers if everything always went as smoothly as planned. Bush didn't play both sides of the fence when it came to what he thought America needed to do. As such, we've been safe from terror since 9/11. The rest of the world, however, is not so lucky at all! They could steal a page from Bush's playbook. And ironically, if they would lend the support, we could abolish the treat! There have been 13,000 deadly attacks carried out by Islamic radical terrorists since 9/11 (bet you won't see that on MSNBC lol). Instead of getting the picture that Bush's plan to fight a WAR against the Jihad (HOLY WAR!) is the only way to conquer the problem, millions upon millions insist that America's engaging of the enemy is the problem. It's laughable. Blaming America - more specifically, George Bush - for terrorist attacks is kinda like blaming the weatherman for getting the forecast wrong. It's not an exact science! Terrorists do what they want, when they want, and various countries line up to help them to spite America. I've never understood people who refuse to lend a hand but constantly point the finger. I call it Michael Mooreitis.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
8 Apr 09
I agree. I find it reprehensible. I hope Americans remember this when it is time for elections....
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@dfollin (24276)
• United States
8 Apr 09
I hope that the americans do remember this at election time.Remember how this man ran for president to get us out of this mess and that he told the truth.
• United States
7 Apr 09
I'll treat him like I did the Dixie Chicks when they said the same thing. I don't care what the guy has to say, he isn't my President and he doesn't speak for me.
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@dfollin (24276)
• United States
8 Apr 09
I looked at your profile and you are in the United States.Therefore President Obama is your president,so deal with it!
• United States
8 Apr 09
Fiddleplayer- LOL amen! dfolin- Yes, he is in the United States and so am I and so are you which means we have the freedom to speak our minds. It is called freedom of speech! We who do not agree with him, do not have to get over it any more than the people who did not like Bush got over it!
@spalladino (17891)
• United States
5 Apr 09
My opinion is that when one takes only part of statement, it's easy to twist it into whatever form best suits their own agenda. The rest of the President's statement according to the link you provided was as follows: "In Europe, there is an anti-Americanism that is at once casual but can also be insidious. Instead of recognizing the good that America so often does in the world, there have been times where Europeans chose to blame America for much of what's bad," Obama said. Both of these attitudes "do not represent the truth," Obama continued. "America is changing, but it cannot be America alone that changes." Gee, that's so terrible of him...pointing out the wrong attitudes on BOTH sides of the Big Pond. How dare he?
@dfollin (24276)
• United States
8 Apr 09
Exactly,people twist things the way that they want to hear it.Notice the most important thing,"ALONE".We all need to come together. Really,"How dare he?" lol But,if you listen to a lot of people and read what they write online then "how dare they" say anything.Please! sndcain36, If there are so many people saying wrong about him,there where doesn't he have the right to point out how we are acting?
• United States
6 Apr 09
I agree with you and I did post the whole link so that the entire statement was there. However I can not shake the feeling that to say it like he did on foreign soil was wrong. If he wanted to issue an apology for what he feels like were Bush's mistakes (and that is what it was a veiled attempt to do) it could have been done here and looked less ..... what are the words.... like he was embarassed by this country. For me, and this is only my opinion.. it sounded like he was saying we should be following them as a superior leader, sorry but the latter remarks did not have the same impact. Of course this is MY OPINION, only I do not submit it as his thoughts or motives. Just trying to share how this made me feel.
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@coolcoder (2018)
• United States
4 Apr 09
What do you expect from this guy? His own wife made the statement that because her husband was running for the presidency it was the first time that she was proud of her country. Obama's just like the rest of the left-wing radicals who hate America and what she stands for.
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• United States
6 Apr 09
I know, I am thinking if he had campaigned with the statement that America is arrogant and should follow Europes lead he would not have been elected.
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@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
7 Apr 09
I wonder if the outcome of the election would have been different if Obama made that speech during his campaign.
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@twoey68 (13627)
• United States
27 Mar 10
Although this is an old discussion, I still it's a disgraceful thing for him to have done. He really does not deserve to be our leader. I'd rather have someone in there that is proud of country and will stand up for us. [b]~~AT PEACE WITHIN~~ **STAND STRONG IN YOUR BELIEFS**[/b]
@robert19ph (4577)
• Philippines
5 Apr 09
[i]Hello shewolf52002, Yap, it is really sad to hear such a word from a commander of chief. In my opinion I see the president still think he is campaigning for presidency and he is saying things he should not be saying now that he is the president. In due time he will realize that blaming the past will not help him solve the issue now. It is his first time to attend a meeting of world leader and he want to make a good impression for himself and forgot that he is representing the a country. Regards. [/i]
• United States
6 Apr 09
Exactly. I mean like others have said sometimes you need to admit when you are wrong, but I dunno this just felt like wrong time wrong place to me. Thanks
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@miamilady (4910)
• United States
7 Apr 09
Many Americans ARE arrogant, derisive and dismissive. I can't stand up and agree with everything he's done up to this point, but I don't have a problem with anybody who can admit to flaws. Our country does have flaws. The harshest think I can say about his statement is that the way he stated it was as if he was speaking of American as a whole. On the one hand I understand when people refer to "America" as ONE. But I have issues with inluding everyone in one statement.
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• United States
7 Apr 09
Well unfortunately when he speaks the word American he is talking about the whole because he represents us all. It is one thing to admit we are flawed and quite another to bow and scrape to the rest of the world. No country would do this America Russia, Germany, Great Britain..... You can bet each and every country in the world has faults but you dont hear the leaders going to another country and saying hey we are crappy hateful people were sorry! We should be listening to you great_____ (fill in the country) It is kind of like your family, you may feel they are_____ (again fill in the blank) but how do you think mom would feel if you went to the neighbors and said I am so sorry my mom is such a _ _ _ _ _! How do you think she would feel?
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@dfollin (24276)
• United States
8 Apr 09
That's right,many americans are arrogant and "America" is one.What was he supposed to do,spend tax payers money on having people call every home and business and get the names of the arrogant ones and stand up there and name one by one each arrogant person.
• United States
8 Apr 09
dfolin- No he is supposed to let his example speak for itself and not apologize to nations that we have helped for hundreds of years for things that he had nothing to do with. Like I have said before your spouse or loved one maybe deserving of all kinds of names but you do not go to the neighbors and start calling them these names! If you go next door and begin calling your husband an arrogant SOB you will quickly find yourself in divorce court!
• United States
8 Apr 09
I think that it is nothing more than the truth we have taken so much for granted, Took what was not ours and over used our planet I feel he has said nothing but the truth though we may not like it it is the TRUTH
• United States
5 Apr 09
It pissed me the hell off, I'd like it if he were barred from returning to the US for his traitorous behavior.
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• United States
6 Apr 09
Like one person said it is less about what he said and more about where he said it. I wish I could adequately put into words how it felt as an American to watch our president say we were an arrogant bully.
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@CMTS_87 (1339)
• Philippines
5 Apr 09
I think the president just said the truth/fact. And for that we should really contemplate. Happy MyLotting!
@dfollin (24276)
• United States
8 Apr 09
I agree,he told the truth.Now if he had said the opposite then the same people here complaining,would be complaining if he lied.The poor man is damned if he does and damned if he doesn't!
5 Apr 09
as a UK citizen i find it quite refreshing for him to say such things, yes it may hurt but the truth does and only when you face the truth can you change the future, from what ive seen of you new president Im actually quite interested to see what he does, its the first time in a while I've seen any leader of any country actually talk to people as a real person as appose to just sound bites. don't worry we euros aren't perfect either and thats a good thing for any nation to realize, for a long time america has seen its self as the saviour and protector of the world, unfortunately this just comes across as being a bully and unfortunatly may of done more bad than good. but always remember fundamentally countries are an illusion there not real, we are the species that draws lines in the dirt, time to rub them out.
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@dfollin (24276)
• United States
8 Apr 09
I totally agree with you.Life is a lesson and we learn by our mistakes for sure.The truth hurts....oh well,that's life.
• United States
6 Apr 09
I can see how you would feel that way, but how would you feel if your leader came here and said publicly how bad your country was? I believe there is a time and a place for admitting you have made some mistakes, just ask my kids, honesty is always the best policy. But, I also think there is a time and a place for it. I do not think it was his place to apologize for other administrations or actions. The whole thing came across as demeaning to me, does that make sense? Like he was saying we are stupid for not listening to you and following your lead and now the US is ready to do whatever is in accordance with Europe or whoever... (not sure I am putting this correctly, sorry) Every country wants to feel proud of their achievements, Americans want to feel pride, Scotland wants to feel pride, ect.... and I felt a loss of pride.
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@dfollin (24276)
• United States
8 Apr 09
Yes it is sad and I am sure that he feels sad when he hears everyday how the people that he is trying to save and make their country better cut him down,won't work with him as he has asked.Just like I said in my discussion,"What if?".If your spouse does not back you up when disciplining your kids or making other family decisions.You won't be very proud will you? Your kids are rude and disrespectful to you.How can you be proud of them? If you are the CEO,owner,manager or supervisor at a company and your employees are not following things that you asked them do and talk about you badly as well.But these people still think they should keep their jobs.