Thurs. President Obama Hosted the First Ever Seder In the White House. WHY?

Obama's name intersects Daniel 7:25

OK Free I'll bite How? Shalom

You have been very busy! Shalom

Almost everyone who goes to Israel goes to the Wailing Wall. I would expect him to do that. Even women are allowed to go there now. That area holds meaning to all faiths. Shalom

If this would have been GWB, the media would be screaming how much of an idiot he is, how he didn't do it right, the left would be screaming separation of church and sate, some would call for the impeachment of him for offending Israel, others would call him a religious nut while others would find fault and say it was a zionist conspiracy to take over the USA. But nothin Baraak does can be wrong.

The problem is that Obama is ready to "cut Israel loose". The U.S. and Israel have always had close ties because Israel is the only democracy in the Middle East and the only country that likes the U.S. in the Middle East. But Obama only likes Arabs not Jews and has made it very clear in the last month. He wants to make friends with Hamas who have lobbed bombs into Isreal everyday for 13 years I believe. He wants to make friends with Iran who wants to wipe Israel off the face of the earth. And he bowed to the Saudi King. Now he plays at having a Seder in the White House without even a Rabbi there to lead it? That is once again Denegrating the Jews. This is how Hitler started. I cannot help but see the similarity and the hatred. Shalom

I don't know. I kind of thought bowing all the way down, to the Saudi King, and then just shaking hands with the Queen of England who is actually an ally, told the true story. Shalom

I have to start watching more American news. I didn't know all this. And it's scary in the extreme. So our politicians being worried about Obama's 'muslim' ties/sympathies are not so far off the mark?

He had the whole thing filmed and put on the net. He is very much aware of what he was doing. He made the statement that this was the first ever Seder in the White House, but he would not answer why he did it although he was asked serveral times why he did it. There were no Jews there and no Rabbi there. Non Jews do not celebrate with a Seder. They do the Easter thing or nothing at all. This was not Impromtu. It was well thought out and well publicized. Shalom~Adoniah

America is not going to attack Israel. They are going to leave her out in the cold to be attacked! Shalom

So are you thinking Adoniah that this is a sign for Israel that they are on his short list? I remember Bidin saying that something would happen half way though his first year and that the majority of Americans would not think they made the right decision, I remember when he said that I said Oh My, they're going to attack Israel.

Well, Free, he did go to a muslim school for awhile at least, and the saying goes: once a muslim always a muslim. I said this through the whole campaign, but what do I know. I'm just a woman and a Jew at that. Shalom

Although he can recite the call to prayer in "perfect 1st class Arabic accent" was a report from the NY Times. http://www.city-data.com/forum/elections/444727-obama-chants-perfect-muslim-call-prayer.html

Reciting this make you a muslim for ever according to muslims. What do I know, I am a closed minded man of unspecified origin.

Maybe but to say that the "Jews" control the USA or that some how Jews are controlling the US policies from behind the scenes is absolutely paranoid delusional conspiracy thinking.

Ya, Das is nitch mine Rabi. Say what? Jewish lobbyist? what anti Jewish websites have you been on? If this was true, believe me he would have had a very prominent Rabi do the ceremonies and would have done them correctly. You really need to stop listening to the zionist consperousy theorist. LOL. The USA does not bow down to the Jews, or to the Jewish sate mine heir, Her Obahma Is nitch un Fureor.

I believe he is talking about AIPAC.

I agree you have a point and it could be history repeating itself. Sadly the only real news we have here about president Obama is that he is black, something the news people thnk we may not have noticed. nothing has been said about his beliefs or his political ideas. I think if I were Jewish I would take this behaviour as an insult and maybe as you do as a threat.

Obama is very arrogant. He has disrespected many of our allys. He has not been polite to the PM of England or the Queen. He treats the past president of France like he was still president and completely ignores the current President. The head of Germany is a woman to be dealt with. I do not think he can get away with disrespecting her. She will put him in his place publicly. And good for her too. Shalom~Adoniah

He is denegrating the Jews. He is putting down the most important of days for a Jew. First by celebrating it on the wrong day and then by not even having a Rabbi there to lead the Seder. No on had a kippah on their head out of respect. In the pictures there were no Haggadah Books so they did not read the Haggadah which is necessary for a Seder. No they were denegrating the Jews. Obama was taking the first step that Hitler took before he destroyed the European Jews. Obama does not like the Jews. He is all pro Arab. Shalom~Adoniah

Both of you are too funny! By the way Red thats Bat mitzvah for girls. I just find it weird that he didn't even invite the Jews that work for him. He was "playing Jewish host" to his family and a few friends. It was a joke. Jewish collegues emailed him and called him and asked why they had not been included. They did put pics on the net. I saw one Kippah(head covering) in the Pics so there was one Jew there. It was a game to him. Shalom

LOL, But no I think he is raising them to be irish.

It has been proven that the christ did not die at passover. He did not celebrate his last meal at a Seder although I am sure that he did celebrate Seder every year of his life. The christ was a Jew, it is appropriate for a Jew to celebrate the Exodus from slavery. It is not appropriate for other religions to celebrate it with a Seder, when they do not have any idea what they are doing. Seder means order. There is a specific order of things to be done, said, prayed, sung, and eaten. The Jews were the ones held in slavery not the christians, muslims or pagans. It was the Jews who were led out of slavery by G'd. They are the ones who follow the proscribed Seder. Passover and Yom Kippur are the two most revered times. They are not to be toyed with by someone playing at hosting a Seder. Obama did not even have a Haggadah at the table. Shalom~Adoniah

To be honest, I don't know much about Jewish ppl (other than they have different holidays and believe differently) or Isreal or the Palestian's. It's kind of like asking me about Chinese holidays...I wouldn't know b/c I'm not Chinese and don't celebrate their holidays. At the same time, I believe each person is entitled to worship who they want, when they want and how they want...as long as they don't force it on others. I also think it's disrespectful for ppl to make a mockery out of other ppl's holidays and beliefs. As you said, you attended a Seder years ago and found it interesting. Considering that 0bama has made it a point to proclaim his Christian beliefs I find it senseless for him to suddenly throw a party for a holiday he doesn't celebrate. You are right in that whether ppl choose to believe in God or not, is strictly their choice. I don't tell anyone that they have to believe or who to believe in, the same as I don't want anyone telling me. [b]~~AT PEACE WITHIN~~ **STAND STRONG IN YOUR BELIEFS**[/b]

Attending a well run Seder to learn is a good thing. It is always good to break bread with friends that you wish to learn more about. But to host a Seder and run it yourself when you do not have a clue and are not Jewish is ludicrous and wrong. Shalom

There are many ‘types’ of Christians, and many of them are not real or sincere, I am sorry to say. I am a Christian, and love the Jewish people. Many of us pray for Israel and the Jewish people often – and pray for the ‘peace of Jerusalem’ as the Bible tells us to do in Revelation. I attended a Seder several years ago. It was a very interesting time. Many Christians are attending Seders, because they want to learn more about the Jewish people and their feast days. I respectfully submit, that the resurrection of Jesus Christ ‘has’ been proven, but it is the ‘choice’ of folks to not believe. Sorry if this angers you. I am not intending to do that, but couldn’t let that statement go without a comment. I am greatly concerned about the current president, and di not vote for him. If America turns from our alliance with Israel and the Jewish people, we will be curse, because the Bible says that whoever curses Abraham and his descendants, will themselves be cursed – and turning away from them is the same as cursing them in God’s evaluation. I believe part of why we are where we are at in this time of extreme hardship, is because of Amerida’s stand on dividing up the land of Israel, where the Palestian’s continue to want more and more land. They will never be satisfied. In reality, they want it all. Even during the Bush administration, the Secretary of State (Rice), was working with the Palestian’s. this is wrong – God gave the various tribes within the Jewish people, their appointed lands, and it does “not” belong to anyone else. Shalom

He did not win any popularity contests with the Conservative or Orthodox Jews of the World! Shalom~Adoniah

I can certainly believe that!

Jews do know that he is siding with Hamas. They also know that Clinton is siding with Hamas. Israel also knows that Obama wants to make "nice" with Iran which will asure the destruction of Israel. That way Obama does not have to do anything himself. At least that is what Obama thinks. He thinks wrong. Israel will defend Herself!! He also seems interested in making friends with the Taliban and Al Qaeda. This is insane. These are our sworn enemies they attacked our country and killed our people. But they were not his people apparently. Shalom

Last year... The foreign minister of Hamas has recently endorsed Obama for president. The Los Angeles Times devoted a lengthy front-page story headlined, “Allies of Palestinians see a friend in Barack Obama.” Ali Abunimah, a resident of Obama’s district, claims that Obama said several years ago when running for the Senate, that he was sorry he couldn’t talk more about the Palestinian cause since his primary campaign had constrained what he could say. Daniel 7 (25) deals with the last king of the 4th beast of exile who will humble 3 other kings. Rav Saadia Gaon stated that the 3 kings or leaders who will be humbled, are from Israel, Greece (representing Europe), and Yishmael (representing the Arab nations). This haughty, arrogant king will speak words against G-d and the Jewish People, and he will try to change the times and the law. How interesting is it that this very word, change, is the key word used by Obama in his campaign?

He will be the first of a Lat more, But the media loves him and finds endless excuses for him, If this would have been George Bush, they would have been screaming Separation of CHURCH AND STATE!!!!! And wanting to impeach him for an out rage to the Jewish citizen of the US and Israel.

No, I heard he was opting for a Greek Orthodox or Russian Orthodox Easter service. I hear he can read cyrillic very well.

thats right

He seems to go out of his way to insult everyone except the muslims of course. He bows to Arabs and goes out of his way to set up pleasant meetings to speak to our enemies. Shalom

If he had wanted to celebrate a proper Seder there are many Rabbis and Jews out there who would have gladly hosted the Seder for him. But he is so arrogant that he knows it all and did it himself. It is not a dinner party. The food must be kosher from a kosher kitchen etc. The prayers must be said in order the songs must be sung in order. It should be done as much as possible in Hebrew. Like he knows hebrew. It was all just wrong. Shalom

He was going after the Jewish support. He even said so. There are several stories on the web about it. He said the same thing when he went to the wall in Jerusalem. If you talk to a liberal Jew who is very political, you might hear some support. If you talk to a religious Jew you will find someone who is very unhappy. They will not be voting for this man or his programs in the future. This was the straw that broke the camels back for those that were still supporting him. If he had wanted to learn about the Jewish experience of a Seder, all he had to do was find a Rabbi or a Jew who would host the Seder for him. Anyone would have been willing to do it gladly. At least then it would have been done with reverence and respect and not just a dinner party. Shalom