AC drives me nuts!! What the heck?

United States
May 16, 2009 7:13am CST
What is it with AC. Do they have several different people doing the editing or something. I write several articles a day for them. After they have been published through AC I then publish it to Helium. I usually get some kind of payment from AC but every now and then several of my articles will be rejected all in a row. I think whoever is doing that editing doesn't feel like doing his/her job and just clicks away or something. I end up with nothing so I just delete the articles that they reject for upfronts. It's aggravating and I have seriously thought about walking away except there is some potential there for bigger earnings. That is, if I don't get that one editor that just mass declines and the reasons don't wash with me either. I can't rely on AC to get the job done in a reasonable amount of time either. It sometimes takes a day for them to accept them and other times it takes over two weeks. I prefer Helium. I know that I will get paid and I know how long it will take to get payment. They have never been late and sometimes are early with those payments. Associated may pay more often but it seems they don't have any set of standard rules to follow regarding whether they accept or not. I have worked hard to make sure the information that I put up is accurate etc. but it doesn't seem to matter. What seems to matter is what mood the editor is in that day. UGH!!
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@mommaj (23112)
• United States
16 May 09
I am laughing only because the same thing happened to me. Right about the time my year was up AC started looking at my articles differently. I found out that it was the editor. LOL Now they are doing for who knows why. I have read articles on there that if two words were spelled correctly that was a statement. I know there are a lot of changes behind the scenes right now. In fact people aren't being replaced that were fired or quit. Instead you now have "guides" and category editors that are picking up some of the slack. Supposedly. I am one of the editors. We don't get paid anything so it is pretty much a useless position. However, I just really like AC so I don't mind so much. I have learned a lot about grammar lately just because I didn't take enough time to proof read. One article was rejected for ONE word. I typed baby's instead of babies. ONE WORD! Believe me, I am feeling your pain.
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@mommaj (23112)
• United States
16 May 09
Shengs right. We are both rejects of constant content. LOL If AC is rejecting you for spelling and grammar you have to make sure you correct it before ever sending the article to constant content. Constant content will boot you out without thinking twice. They are a lot more strict than AC.
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• United States
16 May 09
I haven't done much with constant content as of yet but am working on figuring out that site. Thanks for the great info. I really think that AC is not doing justice to the writers who take the time to post articles there. It can be very annoying but I guess that how some sites are. I prefer Helium the best anyway so it's no big loss if I don't do anything at all with AC. Why take the time to write it if they are going to boot so many out. Making mistakes happen, even when you proof read it three times, things sometimes don't get caught. If they are editor and a spelling is wrong, why wouldn't they simply change it to the correct spelling. It doesn't seem a major deal to me. Associated will probably lose me within a few months because I don't have that much time to waste on them. I will keep in mind about the keyword density. I try to remember it but sometimes I guess I just don't get enough in there. It's hard because you have to put enough without putting too much. I don't care much for the forum either in AC. I guess I am totally spoiled by Helium because everyone is helpful. I asked a question at AC and got slammed with smart alec comments. It's a complete turn off to me.
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@scheng1 (24650)
• Singapore
16 May 09
Hi ddhawkins, since AC Sam and AC Laura left, the atmosphere in AC is very different. The remaining staff have to do double work. It's a pity to delete away all the articles. Some of the AC writers put up the articles rejected as "too common" for sale in Dailyarticle. Please do not get discouraged, let AC try to settle all the glitches. Sell your articles elsewhere if AC rejects them.
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@scheng1 (24650)
• Singapore
16 May 09
Hi ddhawkins, now I understand the situation better. Someone had complained in the forum about this problem. The article was rejected for the same reason that not being searchable subject, and would not attract readers from search engine. That writer posted as Display only article, and got a lot of page views. That's why the discussion thread became very long! Apparently a lot of writers faced the same problem. Hope AC got rid of that stupid editor. I really question the ability of the editor to understand SEO.
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@mommaj (23112)
• United States
16 May 09
When you are writing for a living I know how frustrating AC can be. Right now they are going through a lot of changes. Don't let scheng fool you. I am almost positive she is one of them. Scheng I am just kidding. Scheng can give you a lot of good help when you need it. Actually, AC isn't bad. I have been there for a little over a year. They are really getting strict with articles. You need to do concise spelling and grammar checks. The editors keep changing. If they don't think your articles differ enough from what is already on there they will reject them for upfront payment or pay you an extremely small amount. Since you said you just started you should be fine in that department though. They usually get really bad when it comes to people who have been there longer than a year. That's great you can do that for a living. I was hoping to but I just can't. Congrats to you!
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@carolscash (9492)
• United States
16 May 09
Well, I just started writing for Associated Content the last week and so far I haven't had any articles rejected. I wonder if it is someone who just doesn't want to do their job. I need to put my articles that I can over to Helium now and see how they do. I have one on there and I never seem to get anything out of it. can you give me any advice for there?
• United States
16 May 09
With Helium, you should make sure that you do several things. First of all, add more and more work. You have to rate because you can't earn anything unless you have one rating star. The more articles you add, the more you earn. Once you have a writing star, you will be able to get upfront payments for articles in eligible channels. It's one of the best sites, my personal favorite. Just write quality aritlces that will rank high among the raters. Keep it interesting and of good quality and you should do well there. Keep in mind that if you posted to AC and made the article exclusive, you won't be able to post it into Helium. I always post my AC articles as non-exclusive so that I can make more overall money by postiung them elsewhere.
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@Margajoe (4709)
• Germany
17 May 09
I have both, but am not making much money at either of them. I guess they don't pay much for creative writing. I wish you success.
@Margajoe (4709)
• Germany
17 May 09
Thank-you. I hope so too. Success.
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• United States
17 May 09
I still let them have them non-exclusive so I get page views from them. It all adds up at the end of the month. After all money is money. Susie.
• United States
17 May 09
I agree to a point Susie. I just recently started doing that because I don't see the point of going through the entire process again. That is just me though. I am definitely not suggesting that others do it that way. Money is money, I just hate it when I waste my time doing the work to upload it. Just getting frustrated I guess :-)
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• Jamaica
16 May 09
i nvr tried AC before..imma do tht n c wat happens...
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@Pigglies (9329)
• United States
16 May 09
They do have several different editors. And I've noticed sometimes I'll get more payment for an article that I don't even think will end up being as popular as another one. But I think that is also due to the different editors. I've never had the mass deletion problem though. One way to avoid having your articles rejected is to search first and make sure others have not already extensively covered the topics you wish to write about. You also can't really write about anything too common on there. I've found that just about anything I could write about YouTube gets rejected. But generally I don't have articles rejected, so I knew it had to be the subject. It's just too common. I think overall however, a good writer has the highest earning potential with AC. I don't even bother with any of those other sites.
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• United States
16 May 09
I make, by far more with Helium than I can make with AC. I don't bother with too many but thought that AC would be great but I am not seeing that at all. Common is one thing, but I think that there should be a line drawn. Common or not, you can still make a great deal of money off of those articles. I may not be the best writer in the world, but I do make every attempt to make it mine when I do write and try to make it as good as possible. I think you are selling writers short simply because they don't care for AC's proceedures.
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@Pigglies (9329)
• United States
16 May 09
You probably haven't been with AC nearly as long as I have, but their procedures do seem to make sense for the most part. I putting an article up with no payment for one they said was too common. It didn't get any views. Sometimes I do get 20,000 views for an article they only pay $4 for. But on average I get $8 an article. That average is going down now that they've added the performance payments. But I would still say it is pretty good. Now honestly the last time I looked at Helium was over a year ago and it was only performance payments. If they've changed and have upfront payments now too, maybe that's better. But for performance payments only to me that seems like you'd have to write more quantity than quality. And I'm more about quality personally, but I'm not trying to say I'm a great writer. The really great writers are writing for a whole lot more money than this. If you don't like AC, no one is forcing you to post there. I'm just posting to say that I've had a great experience with them and I don't have the problem of them turning down my articles generally because I have figured out what they like. That said, I also do not write as much as you so I can really focus on only writing content that will do well. I have 2 other jobs plus I go to school full time, so I really don't write articles that often. But it is a nice way to make some spending money so that I can buy unnecessary but fun items like water shoes. My regular jobs are just so that I can afford food, car payment, and health insurance. And when I feel like writing it is nice to get some money out of it as well.
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• United States
16 May 09
Helium does pay upfront payments now. That is one of the things that I like about it. You do seem to have a problem putting others down though. Not everyone is perfect and sorry that I don't live up to your standards. Yes, I write a lot of articles. I do it because I enjoy doing it and because it's a good way to make money. I never said anyone was forcing me. This is one of the problems that I have with th site. I did get some good answers from some others. You know, helpful people that understood where I was coming from. I ask for help and I get answers like yours in the AC forum but I don't get that at Helium. I am not trying to knock AC. I am trying to figure out what they want. You may have figured it out but not everyone has. You didn't offer one good piece of advice. You simply put me down. Nice going!!
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@AnythngArt (3302)
• United States
17 May 09
I know what you are saying about Associated Content. I just take it as part of how the system works over there. Sometimes you win, sometimes you lose. I never count on an article as a "sure thing." Frequently I write to Helium, then just repost those articles to Associated Content for page views. When you've got different people evaluating articles, you are going to get different results. And you won't always agree with them. Still, it's a trade-off for weeding out some of the most egregious offenses or repetitive topics. You can still post your articles for page views or put them up elsewhere to sell. Try not to get discouraged by the irregularity. There's not much you can do except maybe find another site that suits you better. I try to roll with the punches. If I get too frustrated with one site, I concentrate on something else for awhile. Good luck with your writing!
• United States
18 May 09
I totally understand your need to vent. There are times when I get frustrated too with the writing sites, but I am still glad they are there putting money in our pockets. It's hard to keep the big picture in mind when you have a small setback (like having your articles rejected for no apparent reason). Hang in there.
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• United States
17 May 09
Yeah, I have been rolling with the punches. I post pretty much everything to Helium but I try associated first. That way I can make upfronts on both, possibly if AC accepts it :-) I just got aggravated and needed to vent I guess. Thanks for your input! Helium will always be my favorite I guess.
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@oscar6 (1938)
• United States
18 Jun 11
I actually prefer associatedcontent over helium. I know that when I first started writing for associated content I got a lot of my articles rejected and I was really bummed. However throughout the years I have realized the kind of articles that they accept for upfront payment. Those are the type of articles that I now submit.
@coffeebreak (17798)
• United States
24 May 09
I write for AC.. in spirts as I get writers block so often! But in the few times I have had an article rejected.. they always told me why. A little blurb of explanation, but at least they told me. And I had to agree with why they rejected my article. A common reason is that they just have to much of a specific theme and only will take extremely different articles about that theme until some die off in page views. Kind of like everyone has read this stuff.. lets get some new ones. But you can still put it on as "display only" and you won't get upfront pay but you will get page view earnings...I watch the groups alot and find that many will do the DO's for page view earnings nad they say they do as good and sometimes better than always trying for an unfront payment. A page view is a page view, paid for whether it was a DO or an Upfront. I have also notice you will get a buck or two more if you submit exclusive over non-exclusive.. and the skuttlebut on that one is non is better as for the dollar or so extra you get... you are selling your rights and cant' use the article anywhere else... that you might be able to submit for earnings.. Kind of like get $2 now, end of story or minor earnings endlessly. your choice!
• United States
24 May 09
Okay, I'm just going to check to be sure, but if AC rejects your article you are then free to post it elsewhere even if you had submitted it as exclusive rights. Right. I mean you offered them the deal, they rejected it you can try again elsewhere. Am I correct here or did I totally just assume something that is not true in the writing community?
• United States
7 Jun 09
You are correct. If they reject it, then you can post it elsewhere. Anything that is put on a site that you don't give exclusive rights to is yours. You can post it anywhere, as long as you haven't given exclusive rights to anyone.