Schools abuse special needs kids

@TLChimes (4822)
United States
May 19, 2009 5:48am CST
Read the story here: http://www.cnn.com/2009/POLITICS/05/18/siu.schools.abuse/index.html?eref=rss_topstories (Please tell me if the link doesn't work and I will put another in one of the early responses) The Government Accountability Office is releasing a report that says that disapline is becoming abuse in more and more schools. Only 5 states keep track of incidents. Kids are restrained and put in isolation. We aren't talking just high school aged kids but younger kids as well. Some kids are disciplined to death. The people we parents should be able to trust our kids with the most are the ones we need to watch the closest. It's sad that teachers, preachers, and others we were raised to have the most faith in are now people to be feared. The government is trying to change the rules to curb the growing trend. From the article: "Our job is to teach. Sometimes the children we are teaching here present extraordinary challenges; it can be very, very difficult. But that's the job we chose to do." If you choose to a job then you should do so knowing you will do your best by those you serve... in this case the children. Thoughts on the article? What teacher do you remember most from school, the good or the bad? Stories?
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@alharra (507)
• United States
19 May 09
My experience with this is very small because I got lucky and DUncan has been in a great school for the past few years. His pre-school year was bad though because the teachers didn't want to deal with him and he was cating out alot. One day I came into the school to pick him up from after-school and I could hear him screaming as soon as I walked into the building. Some idiot had locked him in an isolation room and walked away. He was hysterical. I will admit to putting Duncan in his room and walking away but I always leave the door open. All I can say is that I pitched a fit and the next school year transferred him to another school.
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@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
19 May 09
My older daughter's kindergarden teacher had a "wack stick" and so did the princible. This child who loved school was asking to stay home because she was afraid. They would have these little kids eat lunch in total silence or they wouldn't be allowed to eat. I removed her from the school because there was no changing a whole school. Evil people.
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@alharra (507)
• United States
21 May 09
As I said once I had Duncan transferred to another school the teachers really worked with him. His first couple of years were hard and he acted out alot. Duncan was classified as EBD, emotional behavior disorder, at first instead of LD. His teachers stressed that he was getting the same services classed as EBD as the LD kids so I didn't get to worried. But in a couple of years he will be going onto middle school so I wanted to readdress the classification. Boy am I glad I did- he is now classed as autistic. So even if Duncan acts out the school can't transfer him to one of the alternative schools like the principle at his first school wanted to. That crazy woman wanted to send my son to school with all the psychos and he was only 5- how do you just give up and write off a 5 year which is what this lady wanted to to do?
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@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
21 May 09
They tried something like that with my older boy. No way was I going to do that. He was only about 7 or 8 at the time. He's now top in his class at 17. I hate the way some schools are.
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@Thoroughrob (11742)
• United States
20 May 09
This really touches home since I have a nonverbal child that has multiple disabilities. I can see why they say that you cannot take the right to restrain. Can you imagine what would happen with some of these children that need that. I don't mean it to be cruel. It is the only thing that works sometimes. I do feel for the family of the boy that the teacher took it to extremes. There needs to be a plan of action and the parents need to be involved in the decision of how things should be handled. Our children are a puzzle and lots of things don't work that would work for normal children, but there is definitely a difference of restraining and the abuse that some of these children are enduring. As a parent, I show up unannounced and report anything I see going on that I am not comfortable with, with anyone in the classroom. I had a teacher that threw a fit about me coming in unannounced, and I basically told her that I had every right and she could not stop me. My son no longer liked school and had always been ready to go and excited about it. It ended with him being pulled from the class and he now has a great teacher and aides, and they totally let me know about things and include me in their classroom if I just show up. My son cannot speak up and tell things, and I am not about to just sit back and do nothing to check.
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@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
20 May 09
Yep.... then you know just how and why I feel as I do about this. There is a difference between disapline and abuse, helpful measures, and teaching. It is a balance from frustrated teachers and hard to handle kids. But the kids don't try to be bad and that's something lost on a lot of folks.
@MsTickle (25180)
• Australia
24 May 09
Quite a horrible story actually, and once again, what I'm seeing is a basic and also complex in these cases, lack of training. I'm sure these teachers are just as frustrated as they can be and don't have the answers. Once you are in a job it's hard to let go and perhaps these people should not be teaching special needs children. Are these special schools they are talking about or mainstream schools I wonder It shows that awareness of the problems associated here need to be brought to the fore. These special children need to be taught special skills. You need special people to teach these kids and the parents need to be taught and heavily involved too. I don't believe it's solely up to the teacher. I also think every parent needs to make themselves aware of their child's progress and behaviour at school. But if the teachers are there to reach, who is developing the special programs for them to teach? Who is writing the reports on the daily progress or behaviour of the child. The teacher chose that job to teach...yes? How can they teach if they are having to write reports and have meetings to deal with all the issues and then have contact with the parents to pass the information on....where is the line drawn about how much teaching is actually done? Is there special training available for special needs kids? I seem to think that more people are required but who will pay for that?
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@Pose123 (21635)
• Canada
19 May 09
Hi TLChimes, I didn't get the article itself, just some comments. I agree that the situation is very sad and has probably being going on for time. I was shocked to learn that only 5 states keep track of the incidents. I am very concerned for special needs children everywhere and feel like you, that those we feel we can trust the most are those that often fail us. I guess everyone has a special teacher that they remember and mine was a young lady who taught me in grade 3. She was kind and compassionate and I cannot forget her smile. That was many years ago and I'm sure she had no idea that she left such an impression on me. I didn't have a teacher who I thought abused children but some of my siblings could tell such stories. Some thirty or more years ago there was a lot of abuse in Indian Residential schools in Canada and the sad thing is that it happened when the schools were being run by the churches. Blessings.
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@TLChimes (4822)
• United States
19 May 09
I want to see what the follow up is and if the governing agency posts a state break down. I'd like to help fight for my state to have better reporting if nothing else.
19 May 09
Hi TLChimes, In this country, it is a law against hitting a child because that is abusing, teachers, parents, anyone in authority, no doubt there are some cases where there are abuse but if anyone is found out, it will be jail for them, in this country, children comes first. Tamara
• India
30 May 09
Hello my friend TLChimes Ji, It is due to the fact taht un-due lienency is being shown towards children. Student-life has to be very much tough. It is not a bed of roses. We are all requesting to study. Concept requires sea-change. Children must understand taht they have to go to school for learning and not teaching. May God bless You and have a great time.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
16 Aug 09
you miss the point no children anywhere in the world should be abused because they are going to school 'to learn. special needs kids need a special needs teacher who understands them. they are not ordinary 'kids and cannot be badly punished as they do not understand and cannot learn when they are hurt.
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• India
16 Aug 09
[b]Hello my friend TLChimes Ji, and hatley Ji,[/b]"Should not be badly punished", requires to be clearly defined, I understand it as good-punishment, less punishment, physical, physychological, what kind of punishment should be given. To give you an example, in case after learning '2=2=4' and if child writes repaetedly wrong, what kind of punishment should be given. As I have been teacher, I would impose child to write several times till child learns by heart. Then teacher will again face representation. So let's be very clear. A punishment has to be there. But it is to be left to teacher and not being dictated by someone. May god bless You and have a great time.
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
16 Aug 09
hiTLChimes hatley here. thats a very good, very'informative Article and tells it likeit is. If a teacher chooses to teach speciAl needs kids she should do her very best and know' what to expect,after all they are just kids yet. I had a teacher in the fourth grade whose name was Miss Thornton. Im 82 and still remember her. she taught penmanship among other subjuects. she 'taught it with a vengenAnce. She would hold a metal edged ruler in her hand as she walked up and down the aisles checking on the way we made our ms for example. She evidently didnt quite like the way I was doing mine so wap Across my knuckles.the metal edge cut all of my fingers And I cried out in pain.then I just ran out of the classroom And downtown to my dads office. He was the town doctor. he saw myhands and heard what I had to say. He fixed my cuts then we hurried back to the school. he walked inside holding my hand and said to miss Thornton: if you ever strike my daughter on the hands again with a metal edged ruler, I will come And hit your knuckles until they bleed. then he took me home. she never did that again and I never forgot that either.