Are You An Individual Or A Herd
By gewcew23
@gewcew23 (8007)
United States
July 8, 2009 1:21pm CST
When some one tells you what to do, do you obey or do you question?
When a certain Congresswoman from a certain state who elected a dolt to be it's Senator announced her and her family would not answer the questionnaire on the census, she got two different responses. First response was well neither am I. Second response was she is a fruit cake, how dare she question authority.
We have some that have not drank any of the Obama kool-aid, while we have those that not only drank theirs but drank the other side's kool-aid. Try this, write a discussion that is somewhat negative towards Obama. What you will get, goes something like this, you need to quit bashing Obama.
When a movie comes out there are aways critic reviews. Some will say I will watch what ever I want to watch no matter what someone else thinks. Yet there are those that will only watch movies that the critics give two thumbs up or 4 and a 1/2 stars.
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@piasabird (1737)
• United States
8 Jul 09
"Try this, write a discussion that is somewhat negative towards Obama. What you will get, goes something like this, you need to quit bashing Obama."
So true! But you forgot that they also say,"Give the man a chance. He's only been in office for 6 months."
Oh, and the ever popular one,"You're just a racist!"
I always question authority. I always question the reasons for doing something. I am not one of Obama's sheeple at all.
So true! But you forgot that they also say,"Give the man a chance. He's only been in office for 6 months."
Oh, and the ever popular one,"You're just a racist!"
I always question authority. I always question the reasons for doing something. I am not one of Obama's sheeple at all.
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@heathcliff (1415)
• United States
8 Jul 09
If we reserve the right to question authority, we also must learn to question those that question authority, else we fall prey to just a different "herd". Someone needs to call a sitting President on every decision he makes, but likewise someone needs to question the motives of those that always fall on the side opposite the President.
There is a big difference between intelligent difference of opinion and politics as usual. If someone declares they will never agree with President Obama, then they are showing a bias of some kind. You cannot deny that violent racism exists, so that point needs to be explored to a certain extent. Mostly it is just good old Conservative hate coming out though, just like Liberal hate showed its ugly head for Bush.
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Jul 09
Heathcliff...I agree with your statements 'if we reserve the right to question authority, we also must learn to question those that question authority'. And, 'if someone declares they will never agree with President Obama, then they are showing a bias of some sort.'
It is possible to find something to agree with in his performance so far. I feel though, that in his overall plan there is much to be concerned about. As for his background, I do not trust his motives concerning where we are headed in the next four years, possibly more.
What your statements are saying to me...is we need to be careful when we are critical, that it is not spurious and mean spirited, based only on personal opinions. As with any constructive critisim, it must be based on proper motives and on facts. There are many who are against him and really don't have a good reason other than he is black or that he is liberal. There is not a person alive who is not biased in some way. We all have our world views and our world view shapes our interpretation of events. So I had to think about the last statement a bit before making a remark. What I think I hear you saying is a person who is not open minded has a bias. I hope I am correct in this interpretation. I have tried to find things to commend President Obama on...and I have found things that are agreeable to me. But my world view is such that I do not see him as being good for this country overall. His world view is very apparent in his actions and it stands diameterically opposed to my world view. Naturally, in any conversation I am in, this opinion would dominate. That does not make me biased as in closed minded, but rather more inclined to view things according to my world view while tryig to see the bigger picture.
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@fodschwazzle (85)
• United States
9 Jul 09
I like everybody's kool-aid, but I'm also an independent kool-aid brewer. I try to create a herd inside a herd to split off and be different, but you need to be pretty well off to make a thoroughly addictive kool-aid.
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@Latrivia (2878)
• United States
8 Jul 09
I wonder if that other group that said, "neither am I" bothered to hold that position before someone refused to do the questionnaire. The funny thing about being a herd follower or an individual is that even if you aren't following the biggest herd, it doesn't mean you aren't following another herd.
I'm not going to say that those who like Obama are sheep - because there are people who do agree with what he does, and that's why they like him. Even some of those that question the current authority still follow a herd. When I see someone question even a person or authority that they like or usually agree with, that's when they when the "individual" title.
I do laugh when I hear someone say to give Obama a chance, though. It's not that I never gave the guy a chance, it's that within the 6 month period he's been in office, he's used up all the chances I gave him.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
8 Jul 09
I have to admit the awful truth... When someone tells me to do something I have an irresistible urge to do the opposite. In fact, the more people wanting me to do something, the more likely I am to refuse to do it. It's just one reason that for me, support groups are a terrible idea. I haven't ever trusted the motives of the herd, so I try to avoid being part of any stampede.
In the case of respecting someone's opinion, I may give it some consideration. If you and I found that we generally liked the same movies and you said that a new film was rather good, I would probably watch it. But I don't necessarily believe the critics, unless over time I think their opinions match mine more often than not. Still, I may enjoy a quirky film that they all despise.
I think that it's a mistrust of the majority. The majority, by definition, cannot be very discriminating. Authority can't be taken, it must be allowed, especially in government. The federal government governs with our consent. When they try to govern without our consent, there are legal remedies built into the Constitution. So you need to at least question the basis for any authority that seeks to exert itself.
So if any of you want me to give up chocolate or smoking or biting my nails, here's a gentle hint: don't bug me about it! If you want me to do something badly enough, I will always do the opposite out of a innate drive for self-preservation.
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@jb78000 (15139)
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9 Jul 09
although some users have probably decided i'm just another liberal i do think for myself. this was a good topic gewcew and critising politicians is always a good idea. with one or two possible exceptions (mandela or ghandi) you can't trust them further than you could throw them.
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@Swashbuckle (305)
• United States
9 Jul 09
What people these days do not take into concideration is that we have been given more rights than the government. If you go and read the Declaration of Independance we have the right to obolish government that we disagree with and believe are not for our own good and then replace it with government and people that we believe can do the job.
That's why I think we need to impeach a bunch of people and get in people we can actually trust, people like us who understand where we come from. I don't think that you need to be a politician to run for governorship of your state or even president. The constitution say's that ANYONE can run, you just have to be a certain age.
@Swashbuckle (305)
• United States
9 Jul 09
First off - I agree with you.
Secondly, it makes me mad that when I do disagree or 'bash' Obama in any way that I am called a racist. Which is utter crap. I would disgree with him if he was half chinese, had a terrorist uncle, was purple and polka dotted and had a huge red nose! I don't care about his skin colour, its the stuff he's doing TO us that I disagree about.
Thirdly, it is called the first amendement and it works for EVERYONE. The Obamaists cannot shut down my voice, that is against the constitution. They can disagree with me as much as they want because the rule goes for them too. But, it is wrong of them to tell me to shut up when I have the right to say whatever I want to say.
Fourthly - I only voted for Mccain because the news said that people my age 24/25 were voting for Obama. Since I was about that age, I was mad and decided to snub my nose at them, throw them the bird so to speak and so voted Mccain. Not because I am a right-wing terrorist, but because I hate to be told what to do, what to say, how to say.
Being politically correct is a pain in the butt! and I care for it not one bit!
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@Swashbuckle (305)
• United States
9 Jul 09
Technically the CIA and other Government secret things like that cannot spy on Americans. At least that is what their website said. *lol*
But I honestly don't care. They have enough crap to do without worrying about me, though I am a Right-wing Terrorist because I excersie my right of free speach, free press and I disagree with retards! *lol*
@timelord50 (170)
• United States
9 Jul 09
I consider myself and individual and choose not to follow the herd. I am able to make my own decisions and form my own opinion. Don't need others to do it for me
@debrakcarey (19887)
• United States
9 Jul 09
My ex husband once said to a friend - thinking I wasn't listening, 'I've figured her out, tell her she can't, and she will.' Imagine his surprise the next time he said...'no, you cannot...'
Seriously, some people do not use their God given right to use their mind. They follow blindly and think we who question what we are told, are crazy. They're lacking in a brain chemical that enables them to exercise free will. I wish they'd quit putting that stuff in the Kool-aid cause I really like the grape flavor and would like to go back to drinking it.
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@WilliamC87 (163)
• United States
9 Jul 09
i question...i am my own person and am not gonna follow anyones commands....sure i obey most laws but that for the better of the poeple....not because im obeying someone....ive always been one to question and feel that everyone should...people have rights a deserve to use them.....
@EsmeraldaB (309)
• United States
9 Jul 09
I do not know what I am but like Rhett Butter said "I am drunk and I intend on getting still drunker before the evenings over!"Or some thing like that....
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