Health Care Reform Should Get 75-80 Votes in the Senate?

Concessions* - sorry first on my first cup of coffee LOL

That's perfect but, you can't have the best response because it's your discussion LOL

If the majority of the people of the USA are rejecting the health plan it is because the republicans have spread false information, untruths and lies about what's in the bill. Those that are the loud protesters have been recruited and planted there by the leaders of the republican parter, just as they recruited republican office workers the raise havok and stop the count of the votes in Florida, and no one can denigh that.

You're right, iriscot, they don't have the guts to tell the people the truth. Rose, you said, "In my opinion this has little to nothing to do with the GOP it is the vast majority of the American people that has rejected this government take over of heath care." You contradicted yourself in that statement; how could it have "little to do with the GOP" when they're the ones spreading the lies that this would be a "government take over of health care" which some, not a vast majority, of the American people have fallen for? "...appears me to the democrats are angry because they are not sucking the republican in to bill that the American people has completely rejected." WHAT exactly has the "American people completely rejected"? There have been poll that show once the people know the truth instead of the myths and out and out lies that are being spread they're much more agreeable. "If the bill is so good the same bill lawmakers has opt out of just pass the bill and take the giant fall out." I'm not sure what you mean here, Rose! There is nothing for them to opt out of at this time. What do you guys on the right want? You supposedly don't want private insurers to lose their business yet you want all of Congress to drop their private insurance? Also, do you think there will be no fall-out if nothing is done about health care? Annie

"Enough playing around already!" That pretty much says it all! It's just a game for the Republicans and too many Democrats have decided to play along. We shouldn't be surprised that they'd be playing their usual fear card again. After all, it's just been confirmed again that they used the terror threats for political gain during the 2004 election, as if we didn't already know that. Annie

You're right, Latrivia. "Bipartisanship" is a word that is usually tossed around by the party OUT of power as they complain there is none and by the party IN power as they as they promise it. Annie

Great post! You're so right, I interpret "promote the general Welfare" as including health care. I fully realize some of those on the right don't believe health care is a right but I DO. Annie

I think we can all agree that a bill that gets bipartisan support is always the goal, that's not the question here. My question was do you agree that in order to be considered bipartisan the health care bill must get between 75 and 80 votes (out of 100) in the Senate. I think some Democrats are afraid to pass any bill, even though they could, without some Republican support because if it's anything but an instant resounding success they're going to get "blamed" for failing. The Republicans, on the other hand, I believe are torn between hoping the Democrats do pass something on their own so they (the GOP) can tear it apart and call it a failure or hoping nothing gets done - AGAIN - so the Democrats get blamed - AGAIN! - for that. In other words, there are some from both parties who are putting politics ahead of the people who are being added to the list of the uninsured every single day, are dying because they have no insurance, are losing their homes or going bankrupt due to medical bill they cant pay or even those who are afraid they'll lost their own coverage. Annie

You're right, Rose, the Democrats have a big enough majority they SHOULD just go ahead and pass it. I'm not very happy with them at the moment either because they're not showing any spine at all! The Republicans had no problem ramming their agenda through when they had the power. I suppose the difference is the Democrats don't all march in lockstep and and memorize the same talking points to recite over and over again. They don't decide as a group to vote against anything that's proposed. The GOP has their lines perfectly memorized and they've got enough of the people scared to put the whole idea of reform in jeopardy. Annie