People making fun of your, speaks with their own language

@neildc (17254)
Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
September 10, 2009 2:33am CST
Imagine you are in the park with a lot of people. Or maybe in a restaurant and having your dinner. This park or restaurant is in your home place. Then there are some people, probably with the same nationality as yours, but they came from another far place, and they talk of different dialect or language. They are behind you and talk something funny about you. You know they are fooling you, because they talk with their dialect, their own language. Fortunately, you know how to speak of their language and you really understand their language. Maybe you lived in their place before or you studied their language. So how will you deal with this? Will you tell them to stop doing fun of you? Will you talk to them with their language, where you should talk with yours as they are in your place? [i]By the way, my home dialect is Tagalog and my foreign dialect is Cebuano. Tagalog is the number one spoken dialect in most part of Philippines. Cebuano is the dialect original in Cebu province, southern part of the country, but spoken mostly in the Visayas and Mindanao areas. I was born Tagalog from Luzon but now living in Cebu in the Visayas. So anyone can call me Bis-Tag - Bisayang Tagalog.[/i]
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@cherrc (666)
• Philippines
10 Sep 09
hi neildc! ethics most of the time are learned by the book. they deserve whatever confrontation u may want against them. but when that happens, do it with class! :)
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@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
11 Sep 09
hi cherrc. so how would you do it? how exactly wiil you do it with class? neil
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@cherrc (666)
• Philippines
11 Sep 09
u can either talk in bisaya or tagalog or english whichever u prefer, in a subtle way. like "good manners and right conduct, innate sa tao yun, naubusan na ba kayo?" sarcasm but still smiling. and then walk away with poise. haha! i hope they're girls. coz it's a big turn off for guys! lol :)
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@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
11 Sep 09
however, they will still get the most shameful time of their lives.
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@Loverbear (4928)
• United States
10 Sep 09
It is extremely RUDE to make fun of someone else's language, whether they think that you can understand them or not! I would inform them that you understood what they said and how rude it was of them to make fun of you. The beauty of languages and cultures are the differences and what we can learn from each other. It is narrow minded to not stop and learn, but to make fun of someone else. I would definitely tell them to stop making fun of your language/dialect and to get their heads out of their fannies and learn!!! Each area, in every country, has it's own dialect (or accent) and it really isn't open for ridicule or making fun of the dialect, accent, custom, appearance, or even the food choices. I have been ridiculed for various reasons, and have become confident in myself enough to look the person in the eye and reprimand them for their ignorance and rudeness. People sometimes need to be taught manners, and in this case it is a necessity!
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@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
10 Sep 09
I slept last night with this topic in my mind. I don't know if it became a dream, and stays in my mind today. I already knows how to speak of this language, cebuano, and i thought, what if someday I come back to my homeland, and experience this situation. At least, I am prepared now. lol
• Philippines
10 Sep 09
Hi neil...we have experienced that recently...last May, I was in CA...my cousin and I took the kids to the park...my cousin's son is a special child and have a few physical disabilities... I speak Bisaya-Tagalog, my cousin speaks Tagalog-Kapampangan... Most Filipinos in the States speak in Filipino.. the bad thing is Filipinos tend to talk behind other Filipino's back... these two ladies happened to be both Kapampangans and commented about my cousin's son in their dialect..they always thought we just speak Tagalog... my cousin understood what they said of course and was soo hurt... but she didn't say anything to them...
@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
10 Sep 09
Hi pat. Exactly what I meant, that's the scenario. But that hurts the mother of the special child. I can understand what she had felt because my wife has a special child. Maybe, it that happens with our son, my wife could not control her emotions, and ther could be a commotion there. Good thing for your cousin, she just ignored them. But that really hurts her, i guess.
@dhugoi (315)
• Philippines
11 Sep 09
Neil first of all im not sure if it was correct, but isn't Tagalog is also the Filipino? which is the official language of the Philippines not a dialect. Correct me if I'm wrong. For the reason that more than 170 dialect of our country you'll be likely to encouter that, Although I never encoutered being laugh at yet. but whenever I bump into something like that I always tell it to their face, hey don't speak any dialect we do not undertand. It will also teach them a lesson not to do that again with other people. But whenever they are majority in a group I usually get myself out, just to avoid misundertanding that may lead to something worse.
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@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
11 Sep 09
hi dhugoi. you will just walk away from that group to avoid any untoward incident, is just a good idea. neil
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@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
11 Sep 09
hi dhugoi. with your respond, i was forced to research for a while to check about our national language. so here is what i found: Tagalog is the native language in the Katagalogan region. the national language of the Philippines, 1937. This was made official upon the Philippines' restoration of independence from the United States on July 4, 1946. And was called such until till 1961. Pilipino was the next national language 1961-87. Based on Tagalog, used "pilipinized" (spelled & made to sound Tagalog) Spanish & English words. Filipino is the revised Official National Language since 1987. Based on Tagalog, uses foreign, modern, & technical words "as-is". http://www.learntagalognow.com/Philippines_Language_Official_National.html
@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
11 Sep 09
what is the problem with links? http://www.learntagalognow.com/Philippines_Language_Official_National.html
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@ShepherdSpy (8562)
• Omagh, Northern Ireland
11 Sep 09
I think it is very rude and disrespectful to talk in that way about someone behind their back,(and especially right in front of them,!)when they were under the assumption you didn't understand what they were saying! I think You should definitely have put those people in their place,or at least made them think twice before opening their mouth again!
@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
11 Sep 09
hi shepherdspy. so how could you exactly do that? will you talk to them in their language or you just throw a mad face at them? neil
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• Omagh, Northern Ireland
11 Sep 09
If You were able to understand what they said when they were dumb enough to assume that you couldn't,a few words in response should be enough to embarass them and shut them up!
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@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
11 Sep 09
just like in dawnald's post at number 15, a german girl was complaining of the food somewhere in an airport in LA. the mother told her to stop but she said, it's ok, nobody will understand us. when dawnald partner heard it, he said to the girl in german, "really?" simple but enough to stop the girl complaining.
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• Philippines
15 Sep 09
That is not something to be proud of as a fellow PROVINCE men..I heard a sick joke from one of my relatives that if i don't know Pangasinense then they will sold me. then i said to myself, then why bother going home in my province in the first place if i feel that I am going to be harmed.. By the way, my home dialect is Tagalog and my foreign dialect is Pangasinan. Tagalog is the number one spoken dialect in most part of Philippines. Pangasinense i think for me is the dialect original in Pangasinan province, Part of big big province areas I was born Tagalog from Luzon but still living in Cavite. So anyone can call me Bis-Tag - Bisayang Tagalog. lol - it maybe funny at some point but i see it as if they are discriminating you. i don't like it Have a great day...
@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
15 Sep 09
that's fine with me buddy, cause you know, all my three kids with my second wife are all BISTAG. you know what i mean? their mom is BISaya and i am TAGalog. So they are all 50% BISaya and 50% TAGalog.
@janebeth (2034)
• Philippines
11 Sep 09
hi neil, wow, that is so funny and a very difficult situation to handle.. , i can be dizzy by that.. whwheeww!! well, honestly if i knew what they are talking about, and if it is not good on my side, i will definitely go to them and speak the language they speak so they can notice that i understand what they are talking about.. in that way, they can distinguish that i am not fooling around and i am getting angry, .. ahhmm, i hope i can do it..aja.!! janebeth,.
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@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
11 Sep 09
hi jane. i can understand that. now you can also imagine, if you go some other place, like manila, and you came to meet a group of bisaya and they talk bisaya. then will it be the same thing you will do?
@dawnald (84148)
• Shingle Springs, California
11 Sep 09
Not sure I've ever run into this, but my husband (kind of) did. He used to work at Los Angeles airport in the food concessions. A German mother and daughter came in and the daughter was non stop complaining about the food. The mother told her to stop, somebody might hear her. The daughter laughed and said nobody would understand. That's when my husband looked at her and said in his almost perfect German, "really?"
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@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
11 Sep 09
so simple, but just enough for the girl to stop complaining.
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• Philippines
11 Sep 09
Shoot. I am so sorry, sometimes we are doing this. But we are not making fun of others. But my friends are just fond of talking our native dialect in public. Sometimes we laugh loud, and some people nearby are looking at us and furious as if they are the one we talked about. One time also, we are talking about a certain place in bikol in our dialect and suddenly one passenger in the jeepney interrupt us and we were amazed because she is also a bikolano. Good thing, we are not saying against anyone or rude thing. Yeah it is really rude doing this stuff.
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@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
11 Sep 09
hi aris. i think it's fine if the people don't understand you dialect. i am one who loves to hear people talking in their own native dialect, even if i don't understand them. it's just like birds singing, for me. and it's a music to my ears. some kinda similar situation, in the jeepney, in public place. yeah, it's kinda rude. that's why, we try to talk in tagalog only, anywhere me and my wife goes, so everybody can understand. by the way, are you a native of bicol? how many dialects you know how to speak? neil
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• Philippines
11 Sep 09
Good day.. long time no hear. Whether one is capable of speaking another language or not, one should render proper decorum. I mean it is outright rude to speak against or make fun of other people just out of their whim and more so if it was done using other language or dialect. If there are misunderstandings then it is prudent to ask that person properly or talk to that person politely than speaking against him at his back. If I were that person who mas made fun of., I will not mid those people but I will make them know that I understand what they were talking about by using that language in a polite manner. Like hello or how do you do using that language.
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@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
11 Sep 09
hi blackmantra_x. yeah, seems you been away for so long. where have you been? what keeps you busy right now? your way of approach is very democratic and really kinda polite. you're very cool. but i guess, it will also depend on the weight of their words thrown at our back. if the words disgraceful or for example, a special child is the subject of fun, like mentioned by patofgold in response #1. there are also some people who has very low resistance in situations like that and the could end up to a fight. my wife is very affected with things like this, because we have a son, a special child too. neil
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@ckyera (17261)
• Philippines
14 Sep 09
hello neil! i have experienced a thing like this and i feel really bad...well, well, its not that they are talking bad things about me or making fun out of me...but they are talking right in front of me, using their own dialect and glancing at me once in a while...i know that they are talking something that they want to hide from me, but i have a strong feeling that time...but i can't do anything coz i don't really understand their language.... so what i just do then, is to keep on listening, trying to absorb and remember some words and still smiling on them...and after that time, i ask someone about the words that i hear and from there i figured out what they are talking...huh! i study their language little by little...and so without them knowing, i already understands what they are talking about and when i don't like what they are saying, i just tell them to stop talking about it coz i understand it already... i think people like them are just so insensitive and rude and very unethical... by the way, that situation happens in cagayan de oro where my husband lives, and that happens the first time i go there... but now, i am just like you...i am a natural born Tagalog but now living here in Cebu and so i also speaks and understand Cebuano (but still not fluent in it....)
@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
14 Sep 09
hi cyera. it's nice to see you once again. where have you been? well, that's something in the other side of the situation. yours happens while in the place where you can't understand the language, while the situation here, is you know the language but in a place where that said language, is not the main language spoken. i think you got my point. but anyway, that also happened to me when i was new here in Cebu. people keeps talking to each other and glancing every now and then to me with a bad smile. then people here, later on told me to speak of their language, so that they can't sell me. these times, they really can't sell me. but still, though i live here for a long time now, and already speaks their language, there are still some words, too deep that even my wife, who is a bisaya cannot interpret to me. do you mean you are staying here in Cebu for good? just like me?
@ckyera (17261)
• Philippines
14 Sep 09
well, i've been to my hometown for the last 11 days! hehe and no time for computer there coz im busy spending my days with my parents and some friends... well, yes i understand you, but i just like to share this story...hehe with the situation like what you have given, well i guess, i will tell them to stop talking about me or making fun out of me, using their language....hehe just like you, there are also some words that i can't understand much but i just try to understand it by analyzing the sentence...hehe coz even in tagalog, there are some deep tagalog that i don't understand...haha so from where in luzon are you? me from laguna... i am staying here for four years last august...and maybe i will be staying here for more more years to come...hehe depends on my husband's assignment...
@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
14 Sep 09
i am from bulacan, cyera. i got here for an assignment only, while i was still working with a makati company. but then, i left here with another company, when the makati company closed their office here. i met my wife here, so no way i can go back to luzon.
• Uruguay
10 Sep 09
This has happened to me before, as i live in Spain and speak English, & i've had people say things about me in English . I usually say something along the lines of 'Before you make bigger fools of yourself, you might want to know i speak English (Or whatever language you speak .)' It'll leave them speechless ;D
@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
10 Sep 09
And their foolishness will bounce back to them. What a shame.
• Uruguay
10 Sep 09
Mmm, but they deserve to learn their lesson .
• Pamplona, Spain
10 Sep 09
Hi Lissalovesyou, I speak Spanish and live in the North of Spain where when you speak to someone casually you still get "but you speak with an Accent" and what sort of accent do they want me to have? Ages ago this City was very little improved in that sense and they were talking about me in a Shop in Spanish and smirking because I was wearing a mini skirt and high heels. So I goes up to the counter and I speak in Spanish to them. Hola me podeis cobrar esto por favor y ponerme una barra de pan tambien. Needless to say they were gobsmacked and did´nt know where to put themselves lol. Now they stop staring so much as if you have just got out of the Tardis and People tend to think that I am actually from here how does that get you. Bueno Lisa te mando un abrazo.
@cyrus123 (6383)
• United States
11 Sep 09
I have had a little French lessons but that was a long time ago and I've forgotten everything I've learned. We do have a lot of Mexicans around here now and if they have made fun of me, I didn't know it because I don't know Spanish. I've been in Europe, too, and if anybody talked about me or anybody I was travelling with, I didn't know it since I didn't know their language. That was in 1973 and I remember what a time we all had understanding people over there, lol. I live in Alabama, which is in the southern part of the united states and I have a good old southern accent. I used to work as a telemarketer and we would call people up north a lot. Some people up there would tell me they liked the way I talked. People in the north, like up in Pennsylvania, New York, New Jersey, etc. talk with a different accent to what we do. They talk a lot faster than what we do, for one thing. It's the same way with people from California. I have relatives who live out there and they never made fun of me to my face. I know, I used to try to talk like them whenever they weren't here. If they ever made fun of me where I could here them, I would probably remind them that we have presidents of the united states who were from the south. I would ask them if they made fun of the way they talked. I would also remind them that we see country music singers on television a lot and I would ask them if they make fun of the way they talk. Dolly Parton, for example, has lived in New York City. Did they make fun of the way she talks? Otherwise, I'm proud of my southern accent. As Randy Owens says in one of his songs, "I spesk my southern english as natural as I please. I'm in the Heart Of Dixie, Dixie's in the heart of me." Kathy.
@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
11 Sep 09
hi kathy. nice input and i love it. i have one question about speech, i keep reading this and i am not sure. what is "accent" in speech and what is "dialect"? are they the same? because when people says he has american accent, i still can understand it. but when they say he speaks a sort of language or dialect, i can't understand. I only want to know, is "accent" the same as "dialect", if we are talking in American speech? or is it just the same as pronunciation or how we talk, how we deliver the speech, not the language. thanks kathy. neil
@cyrus123 (6383)
• United States
11 Sep 09
According to the merriam webster online dictionary: Accent - A. A distinctive manner of expression; as an individual's distinctive or characteristic inflection, tone, or choice of words-usually used in plural. B. A way of speaking typical of a particular group of people and especially of the natives or residents of a region. Dialect - A regional variety of language distinguished by features of vocabulary, grammar, and pronunciation from other regional varieties and constituting together with them in a single language. So I would think they both mean pretty much the same thing. I hope this better explains it. Kathy.
@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
11 Sep 09
well thank you my dear kathy. it helps.
@zed_k4 (17627)
• Singapore
10 Sep 09
Hi Neil, great to see you around once more. I have this particular thing whereby if anyone speaks about me, I'll definitely give a welcome pat in the back. It might be good or bad, depending on what the person has requested. In this instance like you have given, say the person is talking about me. Given the knowledge that I know 2 dialects or languages, I would utter back to them in that same dialect and making sure that they realize I do know they were talking about me. And then I would walk off. I wouldn't pick a fight, but I would give a very sarcastic remark that would make the cat blush, if there is ever such a term. Good day, Neil.
@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
10 Sep 09
Hi zed. I don't think you have to walk away that fast. You still have to finish your food.
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@zed_k4 (17627)
• Singapore
11 Sep 09
LoL.. you are right.
@modstar (9612)
• Philippines
10 Sep 09
Well that's why we really shouldn't judge people because they might understand what we're saying. It's rude. I guess i will just give them a bad stare to send them a message that i understood what they were saying and that it's not something good. So that might shut them up. I'm from Zamboanga City but i do visit Manila from time to time but then i don't speak Chavacano especially if it's about judging a person i don't know.
@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
10 Sep 09
Though some people still talks, say for example bisayan, they come in group, and when in manila, they still want to talk in bisayan. We cannot control, sometimes. But at least they tried. It's that kinda rude, really, to have fun with others, in their own language. Throwing a tiger look at them, maybe, will stop them from talking more. Thanks. By the way, isn't hard to speak chavacano? I know one girl here, she's from basilan and i love her when she talks to somebody in chavacano. lol
@modstar (9612)
• Philippines
11 Sep 09
I guess it's not easy for those who's just starting to learn but yeah, chavacano is a pretty fun dialect to learn.
@veronizm (909)
• Philippines
21 Sep 09
Hi neil! I have a friend who's in Canada and he says that everytime they talk with their parents or relatives who are Filipino but they're in company with one or more Canadians, they always talk in English because it is utterly rude to speak our native tongue when there are people with you who are unable to understand it. In the case of your topic, it is really, utterly, "straight-in-your-face", rude of them to make fun of me, but somehow funny coz they didn't know that I would understand everything they'd say, lol. Well, what I'd do is just look at them directly in the eyes, and give them my sweetest smile, they'll get the point, LOL! I remember when one of my officemates told me a similar story. It was about his Ilonggo friend who was staying in Manila. He was riding a jeepney when two of the passengers started making fun of his face. They were Ilonggo as well. One commented (in Ilonggo) that his face looked like a monkey (and then they both laughed after that) because his hair was long and he has like a thick beard and mustache. They didn't realize that he fully understood what they said. When he got off the jeepney and passed by the seats of the two passengers, he then told them in Ilonggo "I'll be monkeying around now! Bye!". ROFL!!! I could only imagine the shock on their faces when they found out that he understood everything they said! LOL!
@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
22 Sep 09
hi veron. exactly, that is really kinda rude to speak in our native language when we are in the other place like that in Canada. I also have friends in that place, who are also Cebuano. So everytime they go out, they speak in English. But when they got in their place, in their house, they can talk freely in cebuano. The jeep incident with Ilonggos is fun. I can't imagine the reactions of those two guys when they learned that the guy they had funned with were also Ilonggo.
@bunnybon7 (36481)
• Holiday, Florida
14 Sep 09
thats funny. anyway, this is a big problem here in AZ,USA. we have LOTS of mexicans because of so close to the border. many of them dont even bother to learn english and expect us to learn spanish. it happens on both sides of language here. many people make fun when someone cant speak english and many times the spanish speaking are looking at us laughing and saying things we dont understand. just a couple weeks ago tho, my son told some guys off in spanish that didnt know he understood what they were saying he was married to a mexican gal for about 5 yrs and knows most of the language especially the put downs if you know what i mean.since being married sometimes a wife will get mad and say some things.
@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
15 Sep 09
i can understand that, bunnybon. when i was new here, i know a very few words of the dialect, so people can tell anything and everything about you. there is a saying here that says, you need to learn our language so you can't get sold. what they mean is, i have to learn so i can understand them. and i can protect myself if other people will try put me down or hit me from behind. so far i learned and i can speak very well their language now, but still there are too deep words that i have to ask somebody, like my wife, to interpret the words for me. sometimes, even she, as a native of this place, can't understand deep words, so we both ended blank.
• Philippines
10 Sep 09
My father is a tagalog and mother is from Visayas region known as belong to ilonggo tribes. I was born in Cotabato, but never know to speak Muslim languages. I know to speak Tagalog, and Ilonggo and lesser Bisayas. So far the biggest things which really measured one's speaking abilities and accents is when you apply to a call center. Then you would know your abilities if you retain your natives languages accent or manage to improve it using American accent..
@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
11 Sep 09
Hi neelia. You could be one of my children. My wife's a Bisaya too. So our kids are all bistag, 50% Bisaya, 50% Tagalog. So you're a call center agent? And you had improved your accent very well now? Neil
@killersss (639)
• India
10 Sep 09
what i will do is. i will take my chair to them and sit with them and i will make them understand that who am i and what i can do, i will see to it that they don't do this kind of thing with any one else :) i will teach them a really good lesson.
@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
10 Sep 09
Hi killersss. That could be a nice move my friend, you'll sit beside them and teach them a good lesson.
10 Sep 09
Hi Nei I would tell them off in their own language, rather loudly so others can hear, but you know you shout give a pat on your back because you can wright English very well, most people over here cannot read and write any other language but English, like myself. Hugs. Tamara
@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
10 Sep 09
Hi Tamara. you'll do that and give them the shame of their lives. are sure you haven't learned something, any other languages whilst you're here on the Lot? hugs Neil
• India
10 Sep 09
i will teach a lesson to people making fun of me. first of all i will see to all of them and go near to them.i will talk to them in their language only, not to make a fun of me and i know their special mocking language.if they do not stop i will tell their negative points in a satirical way individually. i will hit them mentally.
@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
10 Sep 09
Hi sham. And you will make them feel more shameful to what they did?