depression is a sin

@winterose (39921)
Canada
December 24, 2009 10:59pm CST
Yeah I said it depression is a sin, well it used to be in ancient times, the ancients saw it as a disease even back then but the christians changed it to a sin. Actually to one of the 7 deadly sins. It is the sin of sloth, consisting of laziness and despair. Then it was called melancholia in the 19th century and restored back to a mental illness and today we know it as depression. Do you suffer from depression, Would you ever conceive it to be a sin, the reason the early christian called it as sin was because if you believed in the word of God you would look to him to provide your every need and you would never have be depressed. If you thought negatively that was a sin. So could you conceive that depression could ever be a sin? why or why not?
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@ramos7881 (345)
• United States
26 Dec 09
I would have to say no, I do not consider depression a sin. I have dealt with my fair share of being depressed. I am a christian, and I have found that if I have been reading the bible, praying, etc., I am depressed less frequently and less severely than if I am not an active participant in my relationship with God. So, I guess what I am saying is that while I don't believe that depression is a sin, I do believe that God is powerful enough to both guide me through that time in my life as well as begin the healing process within me.
@gtargirl (5385)
• United States
26 Dec 09
Well said Ramos.
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@winterose (39921)
• Canada
27 Dec 09
yes very well said ramos
@mentalward (14697)
• United States
25 Dec 09
I would NEVER call depression a sin and anyone who insists that it is is very ignorant of the problems that can happen in the human body. A lot of depression is caused by a chemical imbalance in the brain. I have that chemical imbalance. So does my oldest son. If anyone dared call me a sinner because I have clinical depression, I'd call them a false Christian and a nosey busybody who can't keep their noses where they belong, on their own imperfections. Can you call someone a sinner when they cannot control their depession because it is caused by a physical defect? If God makes all of us, he makes some of us with these physical imperfections. How could anyone call these people sinners? You cannot control clinical depression. There is no life event that causes clinical depression. The ONLY way to combat it is with medication. A person could be as religious and as close to God as one can get and still be depressed. That could not be called a sin.
@mentalward (14697)
• United States
26 Dec 09
Very well said, OC!
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@winterose (39921)
• Canada
27 Dec 09
absolutely well said mentalward
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@celticeagle (117919)
• Boise, Idaho
28 Dec 09
It would be a much kinder world if people like that would keep their opinions to themselves.
@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
25 Dec 09
Not really as it is a disease. Have never sufford form it but am sure it hurts alot. and I for one would hate to be down all the time.
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@winterose (39921)
• Canada
27 Dec 09
thanks hon
@Lakota12 (42684)
• United States
27 Dec 09
your most welcome!
@saphrina (31740)
• South Africa
25 Dec 09
first off all, i am not a christian, BUT, i believe in God and everything he do for us and threw us. Yes, i know i have to see your face right now. No offense. Depression in my eyes is not a sin. It is the worst feeling ever. no one loves you, no one cares about you. you sometimes do not even know or like yourself, but a lot af people do not understand what these people are going threw. You do not jut feel neglected, you even neglect yourself. Everybody have their own opinion, which is good. Depression is actually a feeling just as love or hate or sadness is at the end of the day. for some it is something they have to concur to get on in life.
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@winterose (39921)
• Canada
27 Dec 09
it is more than just a feeling it is a mental illness, garden it was Sigmund Freud who claimed that depression is anger turned inward, most psychologist today say that is outdated, it is nothing to do with that it is a mental illness due to chemical imbalances in the brain.
• India
27 Dec 09
Hi winterose, ya i also think that depression is a sin because it affects on our body and also our mind.
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@winterose (39921)
• Canada
27 Dec 09
thanks so much for your answer
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@GardenGerty (98253)
• United States
27 Dec 09
Even as recently as the 1980's my first husband was told that if he trusted God enough he would overcome his depression. There are many illnesses that have been mislabeled over the years, not just by Christians, but by the Intellectuals and Doctors. Why do you thing the removal of a uterus is called a "Hysterectomy". It is because female ailments were believed to stem from hysteria. Those assumptions are wrong, and in the case of depressive illness, most sects now understand that it is an illness. I personally believe it can have a spiritual component, but I also know that I would not call a depressive person sinful, any more than I would call a diabetic person sinful. They are chemical imbalances.
@winterose (39921)
• Canada
27 Dec 09
absolutely hon, our view of all mental illnesses have changed over time. it was Sigmund Freud who claimed that depression is anger turned inward, most psychologists today say that is outdated, it is nothing to do with that, it is a mental illness due to chemical imbalances in the brain.
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@mobhomeir (7565)
• Philippines
26 Dec 09
Nice topic my friend. Yeah that's right if we go back to the ancient time. Of course, if you really believe in God why worries on anything here on earth. Well, if we will compare it nowadays, Christians or regardless of what faith they have, has less trust of what they believe in. Maybe because some are not really sure of what they've been in (their faith). In this way, they are uncertain if they really get what they want from what they are believing (from their faith). In this matter, in my own way of understanding, yes..I consider it a sin. Religiously speaking. On the other dimension, I would say No if we look it in earthly doings of people. For me, if we say DEPRESSION it involves our tolerance in handling our problems and everything that needs deep thinking. If our troubled mind can't resist on it that maybe the cause of INSANITY. In this way, I would maybe consider not a sin. But if we really dig it deeper still a SIN... Sorry my friend if I am so confusing to you... I think we don't have to take seriously whatever problems we encountered,,, Happy NEw YEar my friend... Mobhomeir...
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@winterose (39921)
• Canada
27 Dec 09
thanks hon for your great answer, I did understand it very well.
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@lihocc (58)
• China
25 Dec 09
I think depression isn't a sin.In my country, some traditional doctor conceive pathological changes in liver might link to depression.In other words,depression is illness.God ca n't help me when i am depressed,but medicine can.
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@winterose (39921)
• Canada
27 Dec 09
yes today we see it as an illness
@vandana7 (63838)
• India
25 Dec 09
Hi winterose, there have been several things in our religion, which did not make sense, and therefore, they had to be discarded, rather people started refusing to follow such things. As long as there is ignorance, it can be called anything. But I think it is a medical problem rather than a sin.
@winterose (39921)
• Canada
27 Dec 09
very good, me too
@celticeagle (117919)
• Boise, Idaho
25 Dec 09
And even before that they thought people with any afliction were demons and they were killed. I have had severe depression for many years. It has never been fully understood by people, even doctors. I am on SSDI for it so someone takes it seriously. Hehehe
@winterose (39921)
• Canada
27 Dec 09
yep oreo said it all in her discussion that is for sure, I suffer from depression too.
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@celticeagle (117919)
• Boise, Idaho
28 Dec 09
Yes. I wish I could find one that helps me. Wellubrutin is one I(and the kids) can't take. Makes us have bad attacks of anxiety.
@celticeagle (117919)
• Boise, Idaho
28 Dec 09
Hi, MW. No, I haven't tried this one. I have tried alot of others and am so tired of it all. The one I am on helps to sleep so I really don't want to get on something else right now since sleep is a major issue in my life. I thank you for the info though and may try it later. Also, what you describe with your son is so typical when depressed. It is very sad in deed. I am glad he was able to find something that helps.
@ElicBxn (60834)
• United States
25 Dec 09
I disagree, I have met people who are slothful that aren't depressed, they are just lazy bums, they often latch onto people like leaches and drag them down with them.
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@winterose (39921)
• Canada
27 Dec 09
yes they are slothful, but do you believe it is a sin?
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@ElicBxn (60834)
• United States
27 Dec 09
A sin is when when one does something willfully - as in being willfully lazy, or willfully killing someone, after all, you translate it correctly it doesn't say "thou shalt not kill" it says "you shouldn't murder" a big difference... soldiers kill, and its not a sin - people kill to protect themselves and its not a sin - its when you do something willfully, like you drink and drive and kill someone or you otherwise intend to harm someone that it becomes a sin - and being willfully lazy is a sin.
• China
25 Dec 09
Yes,I agree.
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25 Dec 09
I thought that it might be considered as a sin because in our beliefs you have to be patient no matter what happens.Depression makes people to be self-centered or vice versa.So it's not so good either.But depression may be caused by lack of chemicals in the brain and the body.So how can it be a sin?Either way you just can't stop being depressed just because it's a sin.(I'm not saying that it is, though.)
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@winterose (39921)
• Canada
27 Dec 09
yes marla, we don't believe it is a sin anymore, even though it is still listed as one of the seven deadly sins.
@besthope44 (12145)
• India
7 Oct 10
Well, sometimes its unavoidable that we feel depressed for the day..but for the health its not a good side, i believe in Meditation which will balance our mind and helps to be normal at situations.
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@winterose (39921)
• Canada
8 Oct 10
good answer
• Canada
31 Dec 09
I suffer from Seasonal Affective Disorder, especially in the wintertime. I don't consider something that I can not help to be a sin. I was on medication for it at one point, but I've been lucky in the last few years, and I have not needed the medication, so I'm doing alright.
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@winterose (39921)
• Canada
1 Jan 10
glad you are doing better, Happy New Year
@mtdewgurl74 (18118)
• United States
26 Dec 09
Yes, I do suffer from depression. I have suffered from it for 25 years so far. Although I had never before thought of it as a sin before. I never looked at it from that angle before. With millions of people depressed, I can very well guess that the whole world has and is sinning right now..None of us want to be depressed, it just can't be helped alot of the time..I will pass this on to a few others I know. Maybe it will help some shake the depression some.
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@winterose (39921)
• Canada
27 Dec 09
I don't think it is a sin at all that was just the way they thought in the middle ages.
@Esmechan (53)
• China
26 Dec 09
Hello, Winterose, for some suitation, i agree that sepreession is a sin.As times goes by, i realize that all of our living is full of accident and our life is not certain any more. Everyday you wake up and you find you are still alive with your lovly family, exactly it is a great felicity from God. Life is limited but person still spend the value time on depression isn't s sin ? On the other hand, i also notice that depression is quite normal in our society,especially in the city life. Take myself for example, i get myseld totally involved in my job and i face so much competiveness and challenge everyday. Once i face a new difficulty that you don't know how to settle, it is nature to be confused and depressed. For such occasion, it seems that depression is not sin, instead it is necessary step to make yourself become more intelligent and make progress. Of course, i mean that the one can be recovered and aroused from the depression.
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@winterose (39921)
• Canada
27 Dec 09
very good answer thanks so much my friend
@Hatley (164670)
• Garden Grove, California
25 Dec 09
winterose no I dont see depression as a sin nor do I think God would either as we humans make errors and that would just be another error. I do not suffer from depression as it is caused by stress and I learned to handle stress not let it handle me. I am a diabetic and stress can shoot your blood sugar way up so I have a magic bubble in my mind arou nd my body that is stress proof, stress slides off it, so I go about my business and do not worry about stress. this is called creative imaging and is used by the american diabetes association.
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@winterose (39921)
• Canada
27 Dec 09
it is caused by more that just stress, true chemical depression is a chemical imbalance in the brain so that it does not matter if you are stressed or not you will be depressed. therefore it is a mental illness, I have a form of depression and I am diabetic too and I also am a therapist trained in mental illnesses, true what you say that some people cannot handle stress, but they don't have to be depressed not to be able to handle stress that is something different, these people just need to learn better coping mechanisms to help them handle stress
• United States
25 Dec 09
Sometimes it's caused by things other than the persons attitude, like chemical imbalances.
@winterose (39921)
• Canada
27 Dec 09
exactly
@babyangie27 (5177)
• United States
25 Dec 09
I am bi polar and have severe anxiety,I don't think of it as a sin at all and I don't think God sees it that way either. Some so called "Christians" think many things are sins or wrong,yet that is what the think in their heart not in God's word. Back then and still today ignorance caused many heartbreak.
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@winterose (39921)
• Canada
27 Dec 09
I agree with you
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@coolcoder (2020)
• United States
25 Dec 09
Uh, yeah...sure...because people consciously choose to be miserable. Depression is a MENTAL ILLNESS! I try to read Scripture and pray my Rosary each day, but guess what? I still get depressed! To be perfectly honest, Christmas makes me depressed. I'm not too sure why; my mom told me tonight that I've been like this since I was 3 years old. It is the sin of sloth, consisting of laziness and despair. Are you saying that you agree with this statement? I suffer from major depression, and I can tell you firsthand that laziness and sloth have NOTHING to do with it. No one chooses to be so depressed that they make repeated attempts to kill themselves. About these early Christians...what time period are you specifying? I mean, how early are these early Christians?
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@winterose (39921)
• Canada
27 Dec 09
don't read this into this discussion that is not there, I am simply asking the question and giving you the history of how depression has been interpreted throughout the ages, the time period early means it is not modern times, actually it is the middle ages, the ancients knew it was a mental illness the Europeans of the middle ages returned back to the seven deadly sins. I found this information quite interesting and shared it in a discussion.