Relationships...exactly how much hard "work" should they really need?

United States
February 1, 2010 11:55pm CST
Hello all I've just read a couple of discussions that have really made me think: just how much work on a relationship is TOO much work?? I know we need to nurture and tend any relationship for it to flourish, but my goodness, shouldn't most of that effort come naturally? Is a relationship that requires what feels like constant hard work really the right one? How much dire effort do you think the truly good and right relationships should require? I think beyond a certain point, hard work is trying to tell us that perhaps the relationship is not the right one for us. Karen
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@deemazing (395)
• United States
2 Feb 10
When it isn't considered work, that's when it is right. What I mean is if it feels like you are improving your relationship or connecting on a different level by discussing the issues at hand, that is not work that is commitment & understanding. work at a relationship would mean forcing yourself to stay where you are truly not happy and don't see much happiness coming, or having the other not trying at all. That is just hopeless.
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• United States
3 Feb 10
Well there was certainly no reason to come at me like that! All I did was respond to the question. My opinion is what I wrote, but wow thanks for your rude comment.
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• United States
3 Feb 10
Hi Dee I agree, if the work is too awfully constant, and not done of love, then the relationship is in trouble. Discussion is good and so are addressing problems, as those are bound to come. But constant work, hard work...no. That means the thing is always broken...rather like a lemon of a car. Nothing in this one go round we each have on earth is worth work that makes unhappy each and every day. Karen
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• United States
3 Feb 10
Work at a relationship, requires daily attention. Hate to burst your 24 year bubble, been there done that, while it can be great, it can not be great with out work.
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• India
2 Feb 10
Hello Karen, I absolutely agree with you on that. There is nothing we should do forcefully to maintain a relationship. We become really successful when it is actually effortless. Otherwise there is a high possibility that, with our limited knowledge about relationships, we may tamper and spoil it even more. The more we get involved and obsessed within a relationship the more vulnerable it becomes. I think all we have to do is just to be sincere and honest in our relationships. We should develop a certain form of empathy. When we lack this specific thing, we become impossible. Hard work will not help any relationship, on the contrary it will ruin it. And yes, I too think that we have to giving lots of effort for a relationship to survive essentially means that the relationship is not the right one for us. Hope you are doing fine Karen God bless you
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• United States
3 Feb 10
You are right. Once our efforts quit falling into the category of spontaneous, at least for the most part, the falseness of any effort will turn to resentment!
• United States
3 Feb 10
Hello my friend I do agree with you, and I feel you understood well what I was saying. Of course a relationship requires effort, and we all face hardships, but...there comes a time when if things are not given freely and out of love, or if they do not come naturally, then something is very wrong. Then, it is best to say good-bye before one or another of the parties involved ruins self with "hard" work. Thank you for your insights. Karen
• India
3 Feb 10
Yeah Karen, It seems I've somehow missed a very important key word "spontaneous" here. Unless its spontaneous there is no reason to stick to it or even initiate it. But sometimes we fall for what the whole situation looks like, I mean the appearance, and make mistakes. This complicates the matter even more. One should say good bye before its too late. God bless you BB :)
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@se7enthbird (8307)
• Philippines
3 Feb 10
that sounds to me like a stressful relationship if a couple will say that their relationship needs hard work. if you found someone who is perfectly fit for you then like you said this all comes out naturally. doing something big for your love one is just a small thing for you are doing it with inspiration and persperation as well. har har har. a good relationship requires understanding but if that understanding only comes one way then you really need to work hard to maintain it. a truly good relationship requires a little of everything and it is a joy to do it for you are doing it for the love of your life.
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• United States
4 Feb 10
Hi 7 Yes, the kind of stress that can kill one! What you said about most of it being a joy is what I meant ... it should come naturally and be a labor of love...not of direly hard work. Something is amiss if it is that difficult for two people to get along! Thank you for your opinion :) Karen
@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
2 Feb 10
I agree w/u 100%. U can't make a silk purse out of a sow's ear.
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@ANTIQUELADY (36440)
• United States
3 Feb 10
Been there done that to. It sure isn't a pleasant experience. I had rather live by myself anytime than live in a bad mess like i had & i think u did to. Happy wed.
• United States
4 Feb 10
You sure have that right! There are far worse things in the world than living alone. I like the freedom and peace of it and if I want companionship, I can go visiting or have company over. Happy Weds. to you, too :) Karen
• United States
3 Feb 10
Yay, Jo. I think you understood exactly where I was coming from with this. I tried for over three decades to turn a sow's ear of a relationship into a silk purse, and it was definitely, at first, a labor of love, but oh my...the abuse was too much. I finally admitted defeat and have not looked back. Working on it is one thing, if both parties are in the mix, but no way should any "right" relationship have required all of that!! Karen
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@jesssp (2712)
• Canada
3 Feb 10
I think once you get to the point where there's more 'work' than reward it's time to really evaluate the situation. And when the work is more a chore than a labour of love or when only one person is doing the work it's also a sign that something is amiss. I agree that it takes effort to maintain a healthy relationship but I also think that if two people are meant to be together then the only work that really needs to be done is a little maintenance here and there. In fact, I don't even like thinking of what we do in our marriage as work, even the word kinda bothers me. I prefer words like 'nurture' and 'effort', like you said. I guess how much work a couple needs to do really does depend on their individual personalities and them as a couple, some relationships do need more 'work' than others.
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• United States
4 Feb 10
Hi Jess True, and you said it well...more work than reward is not a good sign. And if in re-evaluation, nothing can be agreed upon that will make it better, something is wrong. I agree, some relationships do require more effort than others...but for me, one truly has to draw a line somewhere, or be miserable for the duration. Karen
• Philippines
2 Feb 10
good discussion peacefulwmn9! (karen) for me, it takes hard work to make a relationship work. hard work means, doing sweet things, planning carefully your date, thinking about presents on special day, adjusting your attitude that will suit his/her, giving time, spending time, etc. give your best shot. than regret. :-)
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• United States
3 Feb 10
Hi Donna Yes, we do those things, but for me, when I love someone, I think I look at it as more of a pleasure than hard work. I do agree, we must be patient and yes, adjust our attitude, as we cannot really ask another to change just because we wish it. People are who they are. Karen
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• Philippines
3 Feb 10
hard work with love. :-)
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• United States
3 Feb 10
Yes, doing it out of love...well that is important
@Opal26 (17679)
• United States
3 Feb 10
Hey Karen, I don't know how much work is too much work on a relationship. I am going through quite a bit of problems right now on one and don't know when the time is to give up! I know that I am getting more and more fed up everyday because I am tired of hearing my bf telling me his crap! He doesn't seem to really care about my feelings and what I have done for him in our relationship and pretty soon if I lose my patience and temper I will make the decision for him to leave and that will be all! He thinks that we can still remain friends and I keep telling him once he leaves my apartment we are done and I mean it because that means he has given up on us and is looking for someone else and I don't want anything to do with him! And he just doesn't get it! But, I guess he will in the end because I'm not kidding! Nobody does that to me!
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• United States
3 Feb 10
Hello Opal I think most of us do not give up easily, but I also believe that at some point, we just "know" when enough is enough or when it cannot be mended. I had a similar situation and it is hell. I'll keep you in my prayers. Karen
• Hong Kong
3 Feb 10
a very hard work to do in a relationship to work, all you need to do is patience and trust and anything that will make you too happy together.
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• United States
3 Feb 10
Hello John Ronald I agree, patience and trust are vital...but never again would I do "anything" to try to make a horrid relationship work. Never. But I understand what you mean, and I thank you for your response. Karen
@bounce58 (17387)
• Canada
3 Feb 10
Hi Karen, I could relate to what you're saying. Sometimes it's just too much work. I've even found myself asking, if all this work is really worth it. I really don't know the answer. Maybe it is telling me that it's time to move on. But sometimes I don't know if I am just too numb(or dumb), or I just love my kids too much not to want to jeopardize their future.
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• United States
3 Feb 10
Hello Bounce I hear you...if something is that much hard work, is it really meant to be? I guess that is a decision we must make for ourselves. I do know children make us rethink things. I have heard though that it is better to come from a broken home than to live in one. I appreciate your comment and insight. Karen
• Philippines
3 Feb 10
Hi peaceful, Relationships, in order to last must be rooted in mutual love and trust. I believe that it is essential to work at it everyday. We are taught in our church that to love is to serve. My mentor said that "Love is about dirty hands, not beating hearts." This means that love is about service and not based on feelings alone. There will be times that you do not feel like serving your loved one and worse, you do not feel like loving him and even hate him at the moment. Well, continue serving him anyway. Loving actions will be followed by loving feelings. Now we ask, when is too much? If we are already abused and disrespected it's now time to show our loved one TOUGH love. How can we show tough love? If he abuses you or in anyway continue to hurt you, get out of the relationship. Tell him to change his ways if she wants you back. Remember, we should learn to love ourselves first before we can love other people. In this way you preserve your dignity and self-respect. Then continue loving him by praying to God that He will help the other person change.
@babysun (24)
• China
3 Feb 10
Relation is hard to maintain.Falling in love is easy, but it's difficult to keep.Less true love in this world now.
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• United States
3 Feb 10
Hello Babysun Perhaps there is not so much less true love as there are fewer people willing to live together in misery? Years ago, most people tended to "stick it out," no matter what. We seem to view things differently now, though. Life is precious and short, and should not be wasted on lost causes. Karen
• United States
3 Feb 10
Relationships are very hard, couples relationship, friendship and family relationship they all require really hard work. Couples relationship in especially require harder work, you need to dedicate time to your partner, show him how important his is for you. You are right saying that the effort comes naturally, at least I feel it that way, it is a necessity to make the other person feel good. But at the end of the day it does take hard work and it require that you adjust your life when the other person gets in.
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• United States
3 Feb 10
Hello Laura We work hard at many things, but because we value the results. In a relationship, certainly time, adjustment, attention, and effort are required, and yes, most of that should come as a natural result of the way we love someone...say our children or anyone, including a mate. But when the work in say a marriage leads to bitterness or yields no positive results, no matter how hard one tries, then perhaps it is time to decide if the relationship is worth it. Such relationships take a terrible toll if we stay too long in them. Karen
• United States
3 Feb 10
If you truely love each other and everything is equal it shouldn't be hard work. It should come naturally. At the beginning it does require some work because of the getting to know each other. I have been married for 15 years been together for 20 years and my marriage is great. It's not always perfect but it's not hard work. Work like a team.
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• United States
3 Feb 10
Hi there Yes, that was my point. Team effort is always good. I'm happy you have a good relationship...and may you always :) Thank you very much for voicing your insights. Karen
• Canada
3 Feb 10
Hi Karen, Perhaps I shouldn't be responding to your question because my husband and I have come to a really rough patch in our relationship. But I really need to find an answer to your question, "how much hard work is enough?" We had a daughter 3 years ago and it seems that my desire to work at my relationship with my husband has faded away. Is all of my emotional energy going to my daughter with nothing left over for him? I don't feel I get the support I need and I'm tired of having to be the one that does the bulk of the work. Maybe what seemed a good relationship was just an illusion?
• United States
3 Feb 10
Hello to you I asked a thousand times during my long and very difficult marriage. When I knew it was literally ruining my overall health to the point I could die...well obviously, I knew enough was enough. I do wish you well. If possible, I hope the relationship works out...as we should not take them lightly. But...you will just know if that is not going to happen. And you will be fine :)) My own decision, though too long in the making, was much easier once I did make it, as he became violent with me...and it kept getting worse. When the fear of staying outweighed the fear of leaving...I left. Karen
@carpenter5 (6782)
• United States
2 Feb 10
I don't agree. I've been married 23 years. Over those years, there were times when the relationship required so much work to make it through the heart aches we were going through, that it didn't seem worth it. But after we came out on the other side, I can assure you it was well worth it! Nothing in life that's worth keeping is worth giving up!
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• United States
3 Feb 10
Hi Carpenter Hopefully, your relationship work did not ever involve dire misuse or out and out abuse. That is not only work, but dangerous work at that. Without love and respect on both sides, something is bound to fall apart beyond repair. Hopefully, that would NOT be a human being :) Thank you for voicing your experience, and have a beautiful day. I think it is the phrase "worth keeping" that is key. I hope you may always have that. Karen
@dawnald (85135)
• Shingle Springs, California
2 Feb 10
when you are willing to put in the work and happy to put in the work, OK, but when you are hurting yourself by compromising things that are important to you, huge problem...
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• United States
3 Feb 10
Hi Dawn Happy to put in the work. I like the way you've put that. Of course work is required, but I do think that when it is over the top, it signals something very wrong in the relationship. Thank you for responding. Karen
@savypat (20216)
• United States
2 Feb 10
Unless you are required to have a relationship with someone, if you are finding you have to work on it, discuss it with the other person, you may then agree to forget it or go on. What ever the feelings between you both should be more open.
• United States
3 Feb 10
Hello Pat Openess and communication are good. I'm a strong believer that there is such a thing as work that is of no use or beyond the call of relationship "duty." True love is not a duty, even through the times that are rottenly hard. Love being the key, of course. Karen
• United States
2 Feb 10
I feel that if a relationship takes so much work it prevents you from functioning and feeling normal then its to much. I know for myself it took a long time to realize this. I worked so hard on my marriage for over 15 years and now im just at the point i want to get out of the relationship someday. The work it takes to maintain it is overwhelming and has negatively impacted my life. You are %100 right if a relationship is ment to be the effort will come naturally. I have maintanced a long distance relationship for couple years now and im not saying its not work but its natural and nurturing type but work, much different!
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• United States
3 Feb 10
Hi Good You have said so well what I was getting at. Work or effort, when it refers to nuture is one thing, but the kind that renders one "ill" in the literal sense is never worth it. If the effort does not come relatively naturally, than something is wrong...and too often gets even worse. Thank you so much for a wise opinion. Karen
• Philippines
2 Feb 10
Honestly I have not tried having a relationship with a girl before but allow me to share about things I believe should be the right thing to a relationship... First we can only have good relationship if both feelings are MUTUAL. If only 1 is giving 100 percent in the relationship and another one shall we say 80 % for sure relationship will go on BUT both feel unsatisfied of some certain aspects... I say relationship will go on if the 100 % will be given by a woman.... Second.. it would be more effective if the things you do in a relationship should as much as possible do not entail something in return... because the more you expect that your partner should also do.. when you give.. the more dissatisfaction you feel and it would probably result to confrontation and jealousy... Lastly, There is no such thing as perfect relationship in this world except our relationship to GOD BUT two things for sure is perfect to me.... It is when the TIME you spare and spend together as couple working hand and hand to build stronger relationship... : D and the moment you are MUCH IN LOVE with each other... cherish the moment even if you think it short...
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• United States
3 Feb 10
Hello Spice Mutuality...very essential in many areas of any good relationship. This can apply whether is be with a family member, a friend, a date, or a spouse. Both parties should give 100% of love and respect to the other. The ratio may vary from time to time depending on need and circumstance, but both should give their best. Thank you for your response. Karen
• United States
3 Feb 10
There are no such a thing as a relationship, in order for any two people to live together they must ingage in daily relations, it is not something that exsists on its own.
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• United States
3 Feb 10
Perhaps you mis-spoke? Of course there are such things as relationships. Perhaps you meant no such thing without work? It was not work, per se, that was at issue, but rather, is there such a thing as the work becoming above and beyond what one can do? And does that signal that the relationship is perhaps the wrong one? As an abuse survivor who tried wayyyy too long and hard, I say yes, there such a thing as a relationship requiring too much work...and it means it is all wrong. THank you for your opinion. Karen