The enemy of my enemy is not my friend

United States
February 19, 2010 1:25pm CST
This past week I watched the movie "Lord Of War" a fictional story that is loosely based on a real Russian arms dealer that has had connection to the united states (even after September 11th). The more I began to dig the more I had to wonder about the ongoing war(s) in Afghanistan/Iraq and the build up of IEDs. The farther down I dug the more disturbed I was not because of where the evidence was leading but the very opposite the lack of anyone knowing where the evidence was coming from. I spent some time reviewing some of the IEDs that were found and was quick to notice they came in all shapes and sizes. Having been in the military I know that each ammunition of this size has its own serial number and can be traced back to the very source of origin. So I focused my search on that, after all I had heard that the U.S. had proof that the bombs were being supplied by Iran not long ago and figured this must be the smoking gun as they said they had. After some digging I found out that not only was everything they said withdrawn by the government in the UK but the US never provided any proof and seem to be very quiet about it now. The more I dug the less I came up with the only story I seem to have found was that a US company may have provided parts to a company in Singapore which is turning around and selling them to someone else who in turn makes IEDs. Conveniently enough this same company also makes ...you guessed it...anti-IED devices. Nothing more could I find anywhere on the outcome of this investigation. Maybe its my paranoid self but anytime something gets quickly snuffed out it usually means there is something going on that the higher powers that be don't want you to know about. Of course if anyone does a little digging they can find that the US is the largest arms dealer in the world and has indiscriminately sold weapons to up and come dictators all over the world. What are the chances that these parts, ammunition and weapons are being sold by companies in the US and are filtering their way back to Afghanistan and Iraq? Could UN laws be subverted just by selling it to a so called legitimate company and if so when the evidence is found how can any company justify continuing to sell these components when they have full knowledge of what they are being used for. In today's world it is not only dangerous but stupid to think that the enemy of your enemy is going to be your friend, in fact history shows us today's friend is tomorrows enemy. Do you think companies would knowingly supply parts for IED to make a profit and keep the war going at the cost of human lives?
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• Indonesia
20 Feb 10
hmmm , but in one condition when you and your friend had the same enemy, you can called your enemy's enemy is your friend after read a few word, i felt confused :o
• United States
20 Feb 10
Thanks for the reply. Yes that's the common expression "the enemy of my enemy is my friend" but as someone pointed out above it seems people we call enemies today were once considered our friends. That's why I put it the way I did because you cant supply anyone with weapons and not expect that one day they might be used against you.
• Indonesia
20 Feb 10
hahaha yes , i scare that, because some enemy's enemy can be our enemies too it's will be more to handle
• United States
19 Feb 10
Evan, this country has made horrible decision on who are friends are for centuries. Just recently though, we have made decisions that have come back to haunt us, and kill thousands. Just look at our funding of both sides in the Iran/Iraq war, and now we took over one countries, and on the verge of doing it to the other. Then our good friends the Afgan freedom fighters in the 1980's led by some guy named Bin Laden. That sure didn't work out well for us. We all know that US companies sell products to bad people in countries all over the world, and our government turns a blind eye to it. We have been doing this for centuries. Remember: Money is the most important thing in our government, and those with the most decide what is right and wrong!
• United States
20 Feb 10
Thank you for the reply. Not long ago I seen how Bin Laden wasn't even wanted for 9/11 but for the embassy bombings and how even around that time he had fake passports provided to him by the state department under a false name. Sadly I have to agree with you its those who have the most money that decide what is ethically right and wrong. Given 20+ years and enough money you can change public opinion on about anything with some well placed TV adds.
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• United States
20 Feb 10
I am not a full conspiracy theorist, but I play one on TV. There was a story out there before 9/11 that Bin Laden worked for the CIA, and they had evidence that he entered another country using a passport that was supplied by the CIA. I thought it was very funny to see how 60 minutes could find Bin Laden in a cave in Afghanistan, but the US government couldn't. Very interesting.
@irisheyes (4373)
• United States
20 Feb 10
I think by now we probably have a time honored tradition of arming our enemies one way or another. If we don't give or sell them the weapons, they just take what they use. Our planes were used to bomb the towers and DC on 911. When it comes to the technology for modern warfare, we are the gold standard. But Should there be restraints on who we arm? Of course there should. Should American companies knowingly arm our enemies? Of course not. It should be a crime but as usual the bigger the business and the bigger the crime, the less the punishment. Some Americans yelp any time ANY restraint is put on big business. Can't figure out why but it wouldn't surprise me if there were American families with children fighting in war zones who would oppose stopping an American company from manufacturing and selling any thing, including weapons that they knew would be used against their own children. Hard to figure.
• United States
20 Feb 10
Thank you for the reply. I think people assume that restriction against corporations is a restriction against freedom but that is not the case. It is the corporations that seem to be wanting to restrict the rights of the individual for the profit of the corporation (even if it is only short term profit) in my experience.
• China
20 Feb 10
How to define friends accurately?I reckon that friends mean that they can profit together.So based on this if the enemy of my enemy can help me.It is my friend.As for future it's another thing.
• United States
20 Feb 10
Thank you for the reply. Kind of a short term gain without any thought to long term effects isn't it?
• China
20 Feb 10
Hi, EvanHunter. You have a perfect point of view that I totally agree. "The enemy of my enemy is not my friend" is a classical saying and it's true. We never know what our friends will be like in the coming future even your mostly trusted one. America is indeed a world's biggest arms dealers and I've thought about the issue you mentioned in the discussion. This is a rule of reality that we cann't change unless government is involved. But it's hard to say that we can trust those whom in gov purely. That's why we say that saying. I hate war definately, the cost of human lives is the cost of products that dealer sells. May god bless those in war who share a peaceful mind of human-being.
@teamrose (1499)
• United States
19 Feb 10
I believe we are the biggest supplier of weapons that are later used against us. We go in bomb a country and the next thing you know we spend billions rebuilding thet same country. It is a never ending cycle. Until all war is banned, which will never happen, there is no end to the destruction of the human race. Every country believes that God is on their side. Every country beleives their side is right. There is only so much resources to take. My wish is space exploration would speed up, and then countries can fight for the spacial recourses.
• United States
20 Feb 10
Thank you for the reply. I dont think space will help that will just mean our wars will be even bigger than they are now and we will probably be more apt to use nuclear weapons than also.
• United States
7 Mar 10
yes.yes i do.it's all about the mighty dollar,they don't care the outcome. i'd always thought that madness to sell things to people who don't particularily care for your country to begin with. could they have removed the serial numbers?i know sometimes when they sell surplus (of anything) they do remove ID's..