Please help me

@laglen (19759)
United States
June 3, 2010 9:38am CST
I dont understand something and am hoping that some of you here may be able to enlighten me. Anybody who knows me or has talked to me knows that I am not Obamas biggest fan. That being said, why oh why do people protest him when he is doing what they want? Example - Heckler at Boxer's fundraiser - squawking about repealing dont ask dont tell. That is in the works as we speak and the President has already said he agrees it should be repealed. So why oh why is this idiot heckling him about it? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9tnbTfCkZTw Now people protesting that Obama is meeting Gov Brewer about the AZ law he publicly disagrees with President Barack Obama's planned meeting Thursday with Arizona Gov. Jan Brewer faces a protest from opponents of Arizona's new immigration law http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/us_obama_arizona_governor;_ylt=Ao5w3HTq0Pk9KQJxsAPTNyes0NUE;_ylu=X3oDMTN0OWk5Mzk4BGFzc2V0A2FwLzIwMTAwNjAzL3VzX29iYW1hX2FyaXpvbmFfZ292ZXJub3IEY2NvZGUDbW9zdHBvcHVsYXIEY3BvcwM0BHBvcwMxBHB0A2hvbWVfY29rZQRzZWMDeW5faGVhZGxpbmVfbGlzdARzbGsDYW5nZXJvdmVyb2Jh what am I missing? Is it because these people dont have to work because of entitlement programs so they have nothing better to do? Please help me.
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@TTCCWW (579)
• United States
3 Jun 10
I think it has to do with many people being one issue voters and or only see their issue as important. Their are also the uninformed as in the case of the DADT hekler who had not read the news of the day, he really had bad timing. I have the same problem with the tea party folks, they don't seem to understand that under the best of circumstances our government cannot change policy overnight and in fact the very system is set up for debate and aurgument. These also seem to be the folks by their own admission who have not voted in the past and have not been politically engaged so they have no historical reference nor understand that the President has limited powers.. I blame this on our education system's complete failure to educate the children on how our government works. I am more impressed with Mr. Obama everyday but it is hard to filter through the rhetoric of the media and protesters and what the White House is actually getting done everyday. I tend to write and complaign to those that I supported for office more then those I did not support. Right or wrong, I hold the folks I supported to a higher standard of performance when they are in office. This may be some of the criticism coming on Obama. He made promises on issues that are forty years old and some of these people think that he is the only one who can get that done and they want it done yesterday.
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• United States
3 Jun 10
Hmm... I've never viewed the Tea Party that way. Not saying you're wrong, as I obviously cannot get into their minds. But it seems to me they're not out there with a misunderstanding that government policy simply can't change quickly. They seem to be more assertive in not wanting government--this government, party be damned--around at all. They don't want them spending unnecessarily. They don't want more and more regulations and more and more taxes to hinder hiring. They don't want government to be the face and the rulers of America - they want Americans, the regular Joe's and Jane's, to be what America is. I don't really think that has anything to do with policy in the sense that they're waiting for change, but that they don't want more policy on top of policy on top of policy. But I might be wrong. They might really be terrorists in waiting and all racists like some others claim. Everyone's entitled to view them how they want. One thing I respect about the Tea Party people is they don't rightly care what people about them.
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• United States
3 Jun 10
I think there should be a "think" in there. I also think I need some sleep so I can better think.
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@dboman (457)
• United States
3 Jun 10
Ay yi yi, more with the tea party bashing. "The very system is set up for debate and argument" How good did that do for us with the health care bill? How about the latest "jobs" (aka further stimulus) bills? Or financial reform? Did the debate cause any bipartisan or sensible changes? Nope. "Nor understand that the President has limited powers" You mean like executive orders? Like forcing CEOs to resign? Executive power has increased under every president since the great depression. Wasn't it the liberals who were complaining that Bush was expanding the power of the executive? Now Obama has expanded it further. The intention of the tea party is to take this expansion of power from the president, and from government itself. It just so happens that spending and the national debt is the most important issue that the country is facing right now. Do you understand what would happen if the US had to default on their debt and become Greece? "I blame this on our education system's complete failure to educate the children on how our government works." Well, it is the Left who is doing the majority of the teaching. Further, these aren't uneducated people who have no idea how economics or complex issues of the government work. Apparently I have to post the link to the demographic polls of the tea party again. My question to you is: have YOU taken an economics class? "I have yet to see a sign saying 'Thanks for passing pay as you go'" Maybe it's because Congress has used the "emergency" label to pass everything DESPITE paygo. When Kentucky Senator Jim Bunning challenged this with one of the "jobs" bill on the sole basis of applying paygo, he was attacked by the Senate and media alike. About those signs...They don't make them big enough for all of your suggestions. "Less government" and "Fiscally responsible" pretty much sum up everything you said. Take a look at this before you believe the propaganda classifying the tea party: http://www.gallup.com/poll/127181/tea-partiers-fairly-mainstream-demographics.aspx
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@matersfish (6306)
• United States
3 Jun 10
I would take a stab in saying that the pro-Obama crowd turned unruly protesters is nothing but the logical evolution of Obama's presidency. The way he governs certainly isn't the least bit different from every other power-hungry, pandering, side-stepping politician who's ever been elected to office, but he did usher in a new era of politics in that sense that he played directly into the instant gratification and technological aspects of our society to become "your" Obama and to gain support of the masses with slogans and feel-good fodder instead of anything even remotely close to credible or based on experience. That's undeniable. I think this gave people a sense that Obama was their Obama. He was wholly in touch in what they wanted. And of course, the "they" would be the "you" if you voted for him from the personality cult's wagon. You would feel as if Obama shared your worldview to the very last minor cause. You would feel this guy was infinitely different than other politicians. If an Obama supporter bought into the hype and propaganda and jumped on the wagon due to his confidence and charisma (what others feel to be hubris and a for-show put-on), then there are only two logical paths his presidency could have taken. Route one: He's doing a tremendous job, so get off his back and give him more time! Route two: OMG, he's still not doing what he promised me he would do. I'm fed up; he's MY Obama! Obama doesn't seem to do well at all with criticism, but he often brings it on himself. Promising the moon to the person/people you're wooing is only pillow talk until they decide to cash in on the promise. Everything he preached to get people on his side played right into the whole instant gratification thing. He contended strongly that hope and change was coming. It wasn't until after (IMMEDIATELY AFTER, oddly enough) he got elected that he said, basically, "Whoa, Nelly... this might take some time, so don't forget about my second term." The same things that make you laugh make you cry. Of course, this is only some minor criticism. He hasn't picked up any stalkers yet.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
4 Jun 10
I think you have it there maters! Why hasnt he taken care of my house payment and put gas in my car?!
@dboman (457)
• United States
3 Jun 10
Very well said. This gets my vote for "best response". Thumbs up.
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@Rollo1 (16679)
• Boston, Massachusetts
3 Jun 10
It's just another sign that Obama is losing the most liberal side of his supporters. I agree with the poster who says that they are one-ssue voters, but I think it's qlso that they are one-end-of-the-spectrum voters and that end is the far left. Obama ges at least as much chastisement from the ultra-libs as he does from the right. He keeps trying to land in the middle but he's not able to and no one wants him there anyway. For example, he reaches out to meet with the AZ governor and the far left decries this meeting. They want him to punish Arizona, not meet the governor to discuss immigration policy. It's an odd thing because you can't support Obama unless you are truly left of center, but if you get too far left of center then you still have to find fault. Right now, his demographic of support is looking like an ever-thinning line at the left end of a bell curve.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
4 Jun 10
I agree with the one issue voters.
• United States
3 Jun 10
Well people are strange that way. The heckler...well he is trying to put more preasure on Obama to get it repealed faster. A lot of the homosexual community feel Obama has not done enough to get it repealed. They also feel that their concerns are being put on the back burner...so they know he supports their cause..but they want more than words...they want him to get it done NOW. I guess tehy dont understand these things take time and he has a whole country to look out for..not just them. So he has a lot of balls to juggle at one time. As for the people protesting over AZ. Well I think it is because they don't want him to go UNTIL AZ repeals the law. They want Obama to boycott AZ too. Personally I don't think Obama should get involved in it. This is a state matter. The state house decided the law...the majority of the citizens of AZ support it....if it needs to be changed let the people of AZ and their representives handle it. This is a state matter...not a federal one. Obama has federal matters he actually needs to be spending his time with. But sence when has that stopped Obama from sticking his nose where it does not belong.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
4 Jun 10
Your right he does stick his nose into things that do not concern him!
@dboman (457)
• United States
3 Jun 10
This is the typical nanny-state reaction from big government liberals. They expect the government, and specifically the head of the executive branch, to be able to force everyone one else out of their way to get their ideological agenda pushed. This is why there was no backlash from the Left after the shenanigans of the "process" of getting the health care bill passed, and in fact there was a positive reaction to it. Nothing will ever be enough for the big government Left, not even from the Chosen One, until our government looks more like Venezuela's.
@laglen (19759)
• United States
4 Jun 10
I think your right. When/where does it stop? When/why dont they move to Venezuela?
• United States
3 Jun 10
Hi laglen. I don't like Obama either and I think that there are so many people who are just so fed up. The new law in Arizona has people from both sides upset so someone is going to protest no matter what he does.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
4 Jun 10
true but 71% of people support it and 51% of people in california the boycott state! lamo