The sniper had a clean shot!

@eileenleyva (27562)
Philippines
August 23, 2010 7:58pm CST
First, my condolences to the bereaved of those who died grim deaths. China and Hongkong, there is no recompense for the lives lost because one of our ex-cops became disgruntled and wild. We are sorry this had to happen, at our National Park even. I do hope that our government could somehow ease the pain of your loss. Second, with the hostage drama aired on television blow by blow, there is no need for investigation now, I think. Just get the heads rolling of those who interfered in the procedural tactical negotiation. As far as I saw it, the SWAT was in place. The sniper was waiting for a clean shot. The moment he saw the hostage taker, he pulled his trigger and that ended the long drama. For those who are asking why it took 11 hours, hey guys, this is not a movie that you can enjoy in two hours. That sniper was still for several hours but he waited. He got his job done.
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• Pamplona, Spain
24 Aug 10
Hiya eileen, Very sorry to hear about that incident. It was on the News here too however it was just mentioned and not much more. Condolences to all those Families too goodness knows how they are coping with everything. There is a high rate of violence here too in particular Madrid, Barcelona and Valencia and Sevilla mainly mugging and intimidating for money. Also in San Fermines the violence goes through the Roof except that no one ever bother to mention it. I hope it never happens again anywhere.
@eileenleyva (27562)
• Philippines
24 Aug 10
I am glad our story was not sensationalized world wide. News reports claim that international police are securing DVD copies of the whole drama so they could show their trainees in police academies how not to do it in hostage cases. Our morale is really down right now. Thanks for the support, Angel.
@eileenleyva (27562)
• Philippines
26 Aug 10
Gosh, that was awful. Glad you were able to retaliate. Bullies are everywhere, I guess. They size up someone and attack. When you don't rebut, they even become meaner. Keep safe always Angel, that Football Stadium collapse must have been scary. Must have happened a long time ago but these are experiences we never forget.
• Pamplona, Spain
26 Aug 10
Hiya eileen, No actually they did not make a big drama out of it. I don´t know why either. You know what Spain is like for morb and all that. As for the Police bit and the Dvds you have to think that you are not to blame for what one person has done. You are a Nation and that does not make you the same as that Person Heaven Forbid It. If we were all to be classed as being the same as other People who have done bad things. I don´t blame any Countries People for what goes on it´s usually out of their control completely. I was blamed for what happened in 1985 I think it was when part of a Football Stadium fell through and over 80 People got killed and many others injured. She came up tapped me on the back and I said yes then she started loosing out a whole load of abusive language about how I was an animal I should not be living in Spain and so on. I looked at her gone out since I truly had no idea what she was talking about. So I told her I have no idea what you are talking about so she told me what had happened when she had calmed down and I told her what gives you the right to attack me like that when in your part of the Country you know the violence that is taking place who is worse you or me. That of course left her "gobsmacked" to say the least. But being British I drew myself up to my full height and told this Spanish Woman that if you can consent to that Violence what sort of a Woman are you then? I left her with no words (grin).
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@eden_shii (506)
• Australia
24 Aug 10
Yeah. That was a clean shot. But I am wondrin' if the victims were actually killed by the hostage taker. Some of them might be killed by stray bullets. I hope the investigation to check as to whose bullets hit some of those killed will be done by the Hongkong Police themselves. I know this is an internal affair but I am affraid that the police will cover their mistake. Anyway, the hostage crisis was not a happy ending. The police should have done better and the safer means. They could've used better equipments and they should have done the negotiation process the better way. Anyway, at least there were quite a few saved from that hostage crisis.
@eileenleyva (27562)
• Philippines
24 Aug 10
I truly don't know what basis we could compare how the SWAT handled the situation at the Luneta. As far as I viewed it, the SWAT came in when the negotiations failed. The ones on the grounds did their best to gain entry to the doomed bus. The SWAT risked their lives hammering the windows and the door. They created distraction and were able to throw tear gas. Take note, they didn't know yet if Mendoza was already down. But the sniper stood his stance. He didn't budge. When he saw Mendoza made the littlest move, he took his shot. I think he must be commended for that, not investigated.
• Philippines
24 Aug 10
Personally, the police were doing ok during the negotiations until Menoza was able to see on live TV the arrest of his brother. This agitated him. Though I think the police need more training on dealing with situations such as this, all of us have responsibilities. Media should not have aired the arrest as they fully know that Mendoza had access to live TV inside the bus. The usual "usiseros" were there. Sadly, the police were not able to control them.
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• Philippines
24 Aug 10
True. The sniper did his job and did it well. I commend him for that. He was part of a team which unfortunately did not work well together. I am sure they have the best of intentions...end the situation peacefully and prevent bloodshed but being members of an elite police team, we expect more from them. We would not expect it from any other ordinary policeman. They are supposed to be well trained on this kind of situation but they failed. If that performance is already considered their best, then it reinforces my belief that they indeed need more training. Risking their lives is just part of the game. When they joined the force, they know that they will be exposed to such risk. Sorry but the risk is part of their payroll. That's their job.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
24 Aug 10
hi eileenleyva I also send condolences to the families of those who were killed by this disgruntled ex cop.To make it worse it was in a national park. This as I understand it has made a lot of headlines and one stupid jerk made remarks of the Philippines being the worst country for having violence like that. He should have kept his mouth shut.
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• Philippines
24 Aug 10
Worst, it happened in the City Capital where i believe Noynoy took oath as the President. well, that's how aggressive foreign media is, and we have got a taste of their senseless remarks. the whole world saw whole our cops screw up on everthing. but i must admit, CNN's way of looking into things in the Philippines had always been negative....as far as i am concern. except to the time that they went to Noynoys house in Luisita.
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@Graceekwenx (3160)
• Philippines
24 Aug 10
i feel for the lost lives... and i feel soooooo ashamed of this really. It would take some time for our tourism to rise up again. I have not been reading the news that much. There are many things though that we are sure of: 1. this would be an experience to the police force to improve on the negotiations 2. media should be very careful on sensitive issues like this. 3. we dont know the truth if mendoza truly is innocent on the counts of extortion against him, 4. woah! poor tourism secretary on his first month.
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@eileenleyva (27562)
• Philippines
25 Aug 10
That much we can deduce from this fiasco, we learn to put things in the proper perspective.
• Philippines
24 Aug 10
Life is just full of unexpected things, you can't expect everyone to always be prepared. When things don't go my way, I try my best to learn something from it. If I can't learn anything from it, I simply say "That's Life" and try to move on...
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• Philippines
24 Aug 10
The sniper could have done something, at least during afternoon. unfortunately, they had to wait that long. but i guess they too were following orders.
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@eileenleyva (27562)
• Philippines
24 Aug 10
That is correct, the sniper could only act when the green and go order had been given.
• Philippines
24 Aug 10
If I were the sniper and had a clean shot early the afternoon, I wouldn't have taken the shot. Taking a life isn't that easy, and I know that I wouldn't be commended if I did take the shot--I would have been condemned(because we didn't know that it would end this way). But if we can go back in time, and decide to shoot the suspect, lives would have been saved. Lots of "what if"s in life, what if Hitler wasn't born? what if I made a better response to this topic?
• Australia
24 Aug 10
It all makes it very difficult for those who are trying to establish a tourist business in the Philippines. There have been several who have almost got a tourist venture set up and something like this has scuttled all their plans. The massacre in Mindanao recently didn't help much either. I have been looking at the distance between Darwin, Australia and Davao City. Darwin is actually closer to Davao than it is to Sydney. A 3 hour charter flight from Darwin to Davao could bring many Australian tourists into the Philippines. Thousands of Australians go to Bali every year because it is close and a cheap holiday. Davao could be much the same with the beautiful scenery and activities in the Philippines and could be a major tourist destination for Australian tourists. The bombing in Bali didn't stop the tourists so probably, if promoted right, the Philippines could reap many tourists dollars. It is only a two day trip by Super Ferry too form Darwin to Davao so think of the tourists that could be brought into the Philippines and of course locals could travel to Australia for a holiday very cheaply too. So if there are not too many more of these incidents maybe we could get a tourist industry up and running.
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@eileenleyva (27562)
• Philippines
24 Aug 10
None of us ever wanted that incident Nick. We are really hoping we could increase our the national revenue through tourism. But this is another drawback for us. Now we have to start from the beginning. Some of our people in Hong Kong are being retrenched from their jobs as of this writing. Sigh!
• Philippines
24 Aug 10
@eileen: I guess it is quite unfair for Hong Kong and China to do this. As if they have not had some skeletons in their closets. One incident and they draw back and over sensationalized the whole thing. What about us? Haven't we been treated badly in their shores? In other countries as well? How about the bombing in UK a few years back why did they not shut the UK down for tourists? Sadly because of this incident we all have to take the blow. Thank you Mendoza wherever you are...thanks for being so darn selfish and dragging us all down with you!
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• Australia
24 Aug 10
This sort of thing happens in the US all the time. There is always some one shooting up their school or work place. You don't see government travel warnings issued because of this.
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@GardenGerty (157865)
• United States
24 Aug 10
I think you make a very good point. Real hostage situations are not like those we see on television and the movies. The action cannot be compacted into 19 minutes when you take out the commercials and the bloodshed sometimes is the innocent, not just the criminal.I am glad the sniper got off a clean shot, and I understand the sadness of your country that this happened.
@rsa101 (37969)
• Philippines
24 Aug 10
Yes it is indeed a sad moment for us today seeing that bloody hostage taking in here. I can understand that the real trigger that happened in here was the interference of the Hostage Taker's brother that somehow irked the hostage taker to be more mad with the negotiators. I think he should not have been with the negotiators since he is not trained to do so and he is so emotionally distressed as well and he might just sympathized with his brother's plea which it unfortunately happened. There was some kind of mishap somewhere in the negotiations. This could have ended peacefully if not for that drama that happened when they decided to arrest the brother who is partly guilty of postponing the negotiations to further. I think it is necessary to make some investigations in here since the scenes we saw last night poses many questions to how negotiators and the police conducted it.
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@eileenleyva (27562)
• Philippines
24 Aug 10
I tuned in to the television live account at around 7:30 pm. But what I gathered from a brief radio report was that a letter from the Ombudsman was given to Mendoza and he didn't like it. There was a long stand still till the brother was arrested and that sparked the gunfire. I think the brother was out of line but in such cases, that is understandable, considering psychologically how family could temper enraged creatures. The Manila Vice-Mayor somehow does not blend well in the script and may be liable for the turn of events. The Ombudsman could have a better judgment than writing a letter to someone already disgruntled. The media could have exercised caution. This is the first time I have seen live coverage of a hostage scenario. I knew right away that it would only end in sorrow. It did. And I had not been entertained, as television viewing is supposed to be. In fairness though, I tuned in to Channel 7 and the reporters were very careful, doubly verifying whatever they would air.
@webzap (884)
• Philippines
24 Aug 10
There were at least two instances were a clean shot should have happened earlier in the day but it did not happen. As I recalled, twice the hydraulic door of the bus opened and the hijacker even waved. If the SWAT did give him a good sniper shot, at least in his feet, I think he will be disabled and the drama could have ended earlier.
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@eileenleyva (27562)
• Philippines
24 Aug 10
As always, negotiations must be exhausted first before force.
@o0jopak0o (6394)
• Philippines
24 Aug 10
well i dont really know who made the shot is it the one in the back or someone far away. because if i hear the word sniper it means that he did it with a long range shot.
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@eileenleyva (27562)
• Philippines
24 Aug 10
Would you believe there was a reporter beside the sniper. The sniper sighed after he took the shot and the reporter asked him what happened. He answered "It's done! I saw him move and I shot him. My fellow sniper made sure the arm was hit, too" Then the footages on television was showing the police on the ground getting inside the bus through the windows. The reporter was momentarily silenced by the quick change of scenario.
@mrfdg1972 (3237)
• Philippines
25 Aug 10
HI Ma'am Eileenleyva, if there was one thing that is right in the hostage negotiation, it is the sniper shoot. People of the World esp. Hong Kong WE are VERY VERY SORRY.
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@eileenleyva (27562)
• Philippines
25 Aug 10
Know what? I am so much relieved Jackie Chan is very understanding. I saw the begging of forgiveness of Mendoza's sister and the grief of his father on the news. This is really a very sad moment.
• Spain
24 Aug 10
Ms Eileen Hi1 I've been reading this since a while ago, but I never learned what was the hostage taker is demanding. Anyway, the damage is already done and I hope that your government will make a change. I hope that your armed forces will be modernized not only in terms of equipments and armaments but also in training and the most important is discipline... Take care now and may God's grace abound where human ability cannot accomplish..
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• Philippines
24 Aug 10
As if the incident was not horrible the police team made such a joke ugghhh.... There was no team work as evident on how poorly the who darn thing played in front of the television. No crowd control, media coverage everywhere exposing what was happening around. that got into the tv of the bus. I certainly would throw his brother in jail for obstruction....they should have not allowed him around the area and they also should have not allowed the media cover that and should have someone look after that.
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@eileenleyva (27562)
• Philippines
24 Aug 10
I was pissed too by the media coverage of the brother communicating with the hostage taker and later resisting arrest. But I truly don't think any of the policemen out there must be laughed at. They had a grievous situation. They may not have handled it according to how we want it done but our knowledge is what we gather from movies. I think it is easier said than done. I think the police were very apprehensive, too, about the matter at hand.