who has a 'stronger' right, the smoker or the non-smoker?

@greygoo (795)
Philippines
October 7, 2010 4:56pm CST
everybody has a right to the air; it will forever be a public good. (but at the rate we're going, i might be wrong about the 'forever' part.) but who has more right to its utilization? is it the smokers who have the right to smoke? or the non-smokers who have the right to clean air? (we have to consider though that it is not a smoker's intention to 'pollute' the air or make others inhale secondhand smoke. it's just a byproduct or, in economics, an externality.) or do you think we equally have that privilege so that no one can impose anything upon another's action? i don't smoke, but my father does. i could tell him "father, i have the right!", then he could also reply, "so do i!". *sigh*(-__-)such a horrible cycle. so our house is like a death-trap; i can either inhale the smoke from my father's cigarette (and suffer its ill effects later), or die of suffocation from holding my breath for too long.
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@LadyMarissa (12148)
• United States
8 Oct 10
I think smokers & non smokers have "EQUAL" rights!!! However, in your case, it is your father's house & he allows you to live there. Therefore, I feel it is HIS right to smoke in HIS house!!! Since you're the one with the problem with smoking, maybe it is time you get your own home or stay away from him & stay in your room!!! On the other side...if your father moved into your home, I feel it is YOUR home & YOU have the right to declare it "smoke free" & he should respect YOUR wishes. Unfortunately, that is not the case!!!! Smoking is VERY addictive & it becomes extremely difficult for the smoker to just stop.
@LadyMarissa (12148)
• United States
9 Oct 10
When it comes to s person's rights, neutral is the ONLY way to be. I don't believe in stepping on anybody else rights. In the case of 2 people wanting their right, I feel it should default to mutual RESPECT!!!
@greygoo (795)
• Philippines
9 Oct 10
haha. that's a nice way of looking at things. i'm still a student actually. thanks for that neutral viewpoint.XD
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@emarie (5442)
• United States
8 Oct 10
That's a hard thing to say. I just say that since smoking is something someones chooses to do and air is public to a point where smoke travels, you initially can harm someone else. If you want to think about it, if you accidentally hurt someone because of what you are doing you can be held legally liable, but in smoking it's not the case. Everyone does have a right, but if everyone is smoking and there is no clean air to breath then what does the non-smoker have to do?
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@greygoo (795)
• Philippines
9 Oct 10
that's a problem really. the problem when a majority of people agree on something, no matter what it may be, is that they always win (tyranny of the majority). oh well, the lone non-smoker can always wear a mask. i don't see myself wearing a mask.m(_ _)m
@sender621 (14894)
• United States
8 Oct 10
Everyone has rights. A smoker has the right to smoke. After all it is their body. non-smokers also have rights. We are all breathing the same air. we need to have respect for each other and our rights. i don't think anyone's right is stronger than another's.
@greygoo (795)
• Philippines
9 Oct 10
yeah. i also answered another response that i may have been wrong in using the word 'stronger'. it makes the whole equal rights thing confusing right? sorry about that.
@madteaparty (2748)
• Japan
8 Oct 10
You're right, we all have the right to breath this world's air, but smokers pollute it and poison people in their surrounds, so I believe that non-smokers have the right of not having to breath stinky and poisoned air. Smokers always are making excuses, like they smoke because it relieves stress, or because they need to smoke while they drink, but they wanting to die quickly is not the non-smokers fault, so they should try to be always far from non-smokers when smoking in my opinion.
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• Philippines
8 Oct 10
Let's put this in these perspectives: If a smoker is smoking in a place designated as a smoking area, then he/she has every right to smoke. If the smoker is in a place for the general public where there is a mix of smokers and non-smokers, then, non-smokers have the upperhand. Meaning, non-smokers have the right to breath air that is free from smoke. It's the non-smokers who are inconvenienced and we all known that second hand smoking is more fatal than actual smoking, thus, it is the responsibility of smokers to avoid causing inconvenience and health risks to the people around him/her.
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@greygoo (795)
• Philippines
9 Oct 10
yep, the example you gave is perfect - having places designated for things like smoking so they can go on smoke in peace while we breathe in peace too:)
8 Oct 10
I am smoker, and I know how's the feeling. Therefore I will choose to smoke with my fellow smoker or go outside in the open air so no smoke will floating around too long.
@greygoo (795)
• Philippines
9 Oct 10
that's very nice of you to smoke in an open area. i hope all the other smokers were as thoughtful as you are.
@elmiko (6630)
• United States
8 Oct 10
the non-smoker because the smoker is invading the non-smokers space and could damage his lungs by second-hand smoke.
@greygoo (795)
• Philippines
9 Oct 10
then maybe we could assign areas (provided by law) where smokers can smoke so that they wouldn't have to invade a non-smoker's space... now, if the smoker smokes in a non-smoking area, then he/she may be penalized by the same law.
@greygoo (795)
• Philippines
9 Oct 10
then maybe we could assign areas (provided by law) where smokers can smoke so that they wouldn't have to invade a non-smoker's space... now, if the smoker smokes in a non-smoking area, then he/she may be penalized by the same law.
@salonga (27775)
• Philippines
8 Oct 10
God provided the air for all of us and He made clean and fresh and wants it stay clean and fresh so we could all live a healthy life. Now I think nobody has the right to pollute this gift of God. Yes, the smokers have the right to inhale the air that God gave us but this does not mean he also has the right to smoke anymore and pollute the air wherever he stays. It is not acceptable to say that smokers don't have the intention to do so because it is only a by-product. If he did not smoke the stick then the product will not come out. It is a foolish and selfish action to pollute the whole surroundings, especially an enclosed place like home and let all the members of the house inhale the dangerous second-hand smoke. Surely, if you father will continue with his irresponsible action, then I would say you better just live him all alone lest you all die of lung cancer. I mean if a smoker wants to die out of his addiction to nicotine then don't let others who don't smoke suffer just as well. Now if you father's heart and mind have been made numbed by nicotine then it is better to just leave him. Sorry but if I were in your place, that is all that I could do.
@ebuscat (5935)
• Philippines
8 Oct 10
For me the one who are not to smoke because they must to be strict to there health they are the one who suffer most than them.
@greygoo (795)
• Philippines
9 Oct 10
hi ebuscat:) i'm a non-smoker myself, but i think that smokers ought to enjoy the same rights as we do. i don't want to breathe secondhand smoke, but that doesn't mean that i want all smokers to stop. they have the right to smoke all they want BUT at the right place. i simply want to suggest that they be given that place so they can freely exercise their right:)
• Philippines
8 Oct 10
This is a conflicting issue but it's up to everyone to respect each others rights. Nobody gets stronger rights. Everybody is equal. We should all be aware about others rights. If we want respect we should also respect others. I get your point and it's sad that most of us neglect or too insensitive to respect others rights.
@greygoo (795)
• Philippines
9 Oct 10
i really think that the concept of 'equal rights' only exists in theory. take smokers for example, though we keep saying that smokers and non-smokers have equal rights, smokers are, in reality, are ostracized. i think i made a mistake by writing 'stronger' in my title. ideally, people should have equal rights, and the question should be about the ownership of the right (who owns the right at a particular area, the smokers or non-smokers?).
@m_perez (506)
• United States
8 Oct 10
I really believe it's the non-smokers who have the right..without a doubt. Smokers pollute our clean air. They do have the right to smoke but some restrictions should be imposed since smoking disrupts the rights of others. Non-smokers have the heavier burden since they can risk having a lung disease from the polluted air created by a smoker. While a smoker, obviously doesn't have much concern towards his/her health will have a much less burden.
@greygoo (795)
• Philippines
8 Oct 10
i'm actually supposed to be on your side because i don't smoke and i hate smoking, but i think that there is a need to look at things from another perspective. the clean air we call 'ours' is by no means ours alone. and similarly, they have the right to smoke just as we have the right to breathe clean air. besides, we cannot blame air pollution to smokers because the smoke they release is nothing compared to those emitted by factories and cars. if we truly want clean air, wouldn't it make sense to stop using cars and close factories first? only then can we justifiably force smokers into quitting. i just think that it is just to consider that each of us has rights. and i think a solution would be to grant each group, the smokers and non-smokers, a space (provided by law) so that each can move freely without having to worry about trespassing the rights of others.
@oldchem1 (8132)
8 Oct 10
We can't make smokers quit no - that is their right and if they want to kill themselves well so be it. BUT we can say that they should NOT pollute the air that other people breath - second hand smoke is just as dangerous (in fact some tests say more so ) than smoking yourself. I have chosen not to smoke so I don't want to have to be subjected to the smoke of other people.