Just ranting on Neg. raters :-(

traitor or troll - such both are not good.
Philippines
November 4, 2010 10:16am CST
Hello Lotters, When are these people gonna grow up, even though the rating system is now limited they still get the chance to pull it off. i don't get it. one of my friends just came back in mylot, i know he risk it again. some of his other friends noticed his star is going down for no reason unless some body is bringing him down.well, he got trolls that bugged him all the time. Another is a friend of mine, but she's not like him because she's a very sweet person who simply talks about love and relationship all the time. and yet she's been drag down too. Well, then again, i decided to forward this concern to the Admin. Unless admins finds a way to detect users who Neg.rate, this will continue. Do you think trolls are still around? or we have a traitor/s in our community...
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@saqi78 (1405)
• Malaysia
4 Nov 10
Yes this happened to me too, I, as a newbie, I discussed it with my seniors too but they too are facing this problem. I didnot know about this before, this happened to me when I reponded to a post, where a member was complaining about her deleted discussion and some one tagged that discussion intentionally as poll or abusive, after posting that comment, in next few hours my rating gone down 12 or 13 points, and I was surprised with that, how did it happened in just few hours, we respond to different discussions, use our minds and give positive suggestions and a traitor comes in and ruin all our effort, is this the value of what we discuss over here, this is just nothing but demoralizing us I think admin should take some steps to cope with this problem and I too dont know after discussing over here in this topic how much points I ll go down but I dont care, at least my voice reached to some senior and serious members who are playing an important role to keep our moral high Thank L.Knight and other senior members....:)
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@jaiho2009 (39001)
• Philippines
4 Nov 10
that happens when some topic header/mylotters that we respond with can not accept our response esp when we don't agree with them. or,there are trolls on the loose again (they never lasts for long here) yet they were able to annoy other mylotters and really make other mylotters stopped from coming again. i can still remember one mylotter (one of my friend)who deleted his account due to this problem (someone is rating him down and that caused him to lost almost all his earnings)
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@saqi78 (1405)
• Malaysia
4 Nov 10
Oh very sorry for your friend, this is another thing which I came to know that if some one rate you down (-) then your earnings ll also come down oooppss this mean any one can do any thinh over here..?
• Philippines
7 Nov 10
Hello Saqi, Rating can never be stop, since it's been part of mylot. the only answer to this problem is that we should avoid topics that has something to do with heated politics and complaints. some one out there only wants to cause trouble here in mylot. so, look on to these discussions carefully. have a great day.
• United States
4 Nov 10
I have tried really hard not to let it get to me, as my points go up and down and I feel really dizzy. No matter how sweet and positive I am, it seems it does not matter as my rating keeps dropping. I have no clue who would be doing this as I am one never to be negative, I sure hope they stop as it is getting me really down. Sometimes I just want to quit as I feel my efforts are wasted but then I come back and see my great friends and can't help but think that they too are affected but what can we do when admin does not help.
• Philippines
7 Nov 10
Hello Hardworkinggurl, Well, some one seems to have liked you rated down a bit. don't worry, they were a lot of people who had actually experienced this happening.like neildc, chiyosan and eureka, they used to have that color, but in time they were able to retain their blue star after all the discussions that they have made. don't loose hope and try to avoid controversial topics.have a great day.
• United States
7 Nov 10
Someone seems to be trolling me, as I never take part in negative discussions and when I respond I have always been really positive. But I do not worry about it as at the end of the day I sleep really well with me.
• Philippines
4 Nov 10
Its really frustrating to see how some users of this site like those the ones you described here abused the system. It is time that the admin has to take seriously into this kind of behavior. Since mylot is big community we cannot control on what people can do except those who has the powers to do so. They indeed are trolls, traitors to this site and should not be tolerated.
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• Philippines
7 Nov 10
Hello torched, They did took this seriously with the help of the Lamb and other oldies. what they did was to limit the rating only to 15 per day. but some how those other people where able to compromise and started rating him down.we have to be careful talking to people now a days. have a great day
@zandi458 (27952)
• Malaysia
4 Nov 10
I strongly believe that people are still doing their games of tricks to some of the accounts here. A friend has noticed that my reputation has not moved for months now and I am equally surprise myself despite being very active here. Who are we to blame, trolls or a faulty rating system? I don't discount the fact that Judas is within our community.
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• Philippines
6 Nov 10
Hello zandi458, Well, at least it has grown steady that way and not going down. i remember having almost 98-99 rating and all changed when i started participating in the Philippine topics at the height of the 2010 Election period. i seriously got a lot of negative ratings there and few months ago i almost turned permanently into red.
@saphrina (31739)
• South Africa
4 Nov 10
Hi sweetie. Trolls, traitors, hypocrites, name them. You get them you cannot get rid of them. Unfortunately this will always happen as long as that freaking button is there. TATA.
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• Philippines
4 Nov 10
Hello sweetie, getting them is the admins job, our choice of duty is only to report them. word wars exist before you came in sweetie. if there's a word war now, you wouldn't have that blue star the only action that i know can detect them is the IP tracking program. but there will be consquences to that.
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@saphrina (31739)
• South Africa
4 Nov 10
I can always use that if i want to sweetie. You have no idea how fast i can get an ip tracked form here. Who are we looking for then?
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@saphrina (31739)
• South Africa
4 Nov 10
How many can you track in a day, ravi?
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• Philippines
5 Nov 10
Gosh I'm really new here and I'm already getting scared and bothered by this at the same time. If these kind of people really exist here in MyLot. They got to find themselves something else to do and fast. They are ruining other peoples good intentions. Hopefully they will understand one day. Peace to all.
@warvial (1154)
• Singapore
6 Nov 10
Hi, sad to say, they exist. As of yesterday I was still having a blue star, as of today, it went red. But they are the minority around here. Majority of the mylotters are nice people who is eager to share and discuss. Enjoy your stay and hope to see your blue star soon.
• Philippines
6 Nov 10
Thanks A lot, I really appreciate it and it comforting to know that. Thanks Again.
• Philippines
7 Nov 10
Hello Necroborg, Don't worry,you haven't reached the 100 number of post. that way you're not a threat to them..just avoid discussions that you believe will end up in rattling debates. always be positive here. unlike other sites, there are more good here tan bad.
@bunnybon7 (37205)
• Holiday, Florida
4 Nov 10
yes i wish people would just live and let live. why do they want to do this? it makes no sense. just get a life isay this is the only way some have of making money for food and such. its sad. not fair. i think administration should be the only ones decide on the star rating, etc. what goes around, comes around and trolls will get theirs. i had a friend start back 2 times now and still had to quit.
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@Hatley (164506)
• Garden Grove, California
4 Nov 10
sometimes I think mylot has made an error as evidently some rate out oi pure spite as they want us all to agree with heir opinions and if we do not zap goes the minus key.I think some really great friends here quit mylot as they were being minused over and over. 'this is so wrong and I hope maybe who ever took over for GoAsk Alice will do something about those who troll us all the time.It is just not at all fair and to think they may be eathering their own nests at our expense. I think that admins would be fair and not play favorites here.
• Philippines
7 Nov 10
Hello Bunnybon, We just had to be careful with the people who participate to, most specially their topics. despite of this site being troll proof, we should realize that this isn't completely immune to trolls. they found a loop hole in neg rating people down. well, don't quit just yet. this issue isn't that worse compare to other forums or social network sites. have a nice day.
@jaiho2009 (39001)
• Philippines
4 Nov 10
hello Letran, Uh uh...are they on the loose again? I received two notifications from Admin saying that the thread which i posted a response was deleted due to duplication. What the h*ck...it's not actually a duplication (not copy pasted ugh!) Same topic since the topic header is a newbie,and we cannot control newbies to posts same topic. And how can newbies even aware of that they've posted same topic (thu the content is not totally the same)they are newbies and i also done the same thing,posting the topic that came to my mind. I feel sad when i received the notification,not because my response was deleted,but because it was reported as duplication... Well,Admin already checked about that matter,since one mylotter come to that newbie's rescue (who happens to be my common friend too) wish we could do something with things like these...it's frustrating sometimes. have a good day always dear brother
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@saqi78 (1405)
• Malaysia
4 Nov 10
Yeah, I agree with you, my three discussion on a topic were deleted today and yes how a newbie could come in one or two post that this topic should be posted and this should not be posted Sorry L.Knight I just get out of topic...:)
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• Philippines
7 Nov 10
Hello Jaiho, They Never Left really. probably the old ones in the past are gone, but maybe some remained and took their time to strike back. these group of people need to get a life some where. we should always remember the topics that are often put into this site.for some reason, those trolls are going for topics that caused debates and fights. so, becareful.have a great day, Sis.
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@Hatley (164506)
• Garden Grove, California
4 Nov 10
letran I think a lot of newer users have got the stupid idea that if we do not all agree with their own ideas, they can minus them. Mylot itself explainded no do not negate someone simply because they do not agree with your own ideas, this is wrong do not do it. so they make trolls of themsevelse to bring down innocent mylotters who simpley had different points of view.I know that mylot admins can detect trolls as they did it for me years back when someone trolled me from a ten star down to a 5 star. they caught the culprits and banned them from mylot. I got back t o a 9 and am stuck there now. In a way yes i feel they are traitors in our midst. To me this is really vile to minus anyone just for having a different opinion than yours.the very art of discussions is based in our having varied opinions as thats what discussing is all stating their own points of views.unless we are flaming or insulting the other person, the fact that we may not agree is part of discussing.Most people do not agree with everything written here and yet they all respect each other.
• Philippines
7 Nov 10
Hello Hatley, Well, you just be glad that you were able to have the red star back. with the number of post that you have, it is indeed gonna take time before it becomes blue again, but it's gonna take a while to do so. that's right, RESPECT is the right word and tolerance. thanks for dropping by.
@eurekafemme (5881)
• Philippines
4 Nov 10
Hi, Knight.:) Another off mood topic, huh... Cheer up, dear. Well, I have been a victim (?) of such neg raters.But, I did not take it against that person because for me it was what she felt during that time, so let her... It was so easy for me to somehow make a wild guess who rated me neatively because I have no foes here and my star doesn't fluctuate that much. Besides, you can always sense that when they replied to your response, can't you? Still, i don't feel upset and offended. But for your friends' cases, maybe, Mylot admin should do something about it. Though the stars really do not bother to some but it is somehow not a good motivation to see your star dramatically changing colors the negative way....I really hope this thing can be fixed soon... By the way, I forgot what are these stars and numbers for? Do they affect our earnings? Have a great night, Knight. And hush... Be well. OK?
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• Philippines
7 Nov 10
Hello Eurekafemme, Yeah, i was a bit of the mood here, thanks for cheering me up. that is one of our problems, some of those users don't care about earnings or stars that when they reached a hundred post or more, that's the time they strike. I believe they do, but if we are active and fast typing, star doesn't matter. a special person of mine actually types fast that she earns more than a dollar a day despite of her star below blue.
@carmelanirel (20979)
• United States
4 Nov 10
I saw that one of the victims has contacted admin, I hope they do something about it, because it isn't right. Though truthfully, I don't even bother looking at the star, in fact I don't even know what color or number I have right now. But I do rate positive, even on ones that I regret later..Only occasionally do I rate neg, and that is because the person was very rude and out of control. Or, sometimes I don't rate at all. I do this when the replier makes a comment and it sounds off the wall, but also like maybe they were confused. So I question them, if I don't hear back, then I rate neg, because they obviously didn't want to discuss it..
• Philippines
7 Nov 10
Hello Carmel, yeah, we all should inform the admin about this. not to mention, we have alex to depend on since he is really looking on to this things. my advice to you is that don't waste you're time with people who are rude, instead just report them or ignore them. rating them negative will also affect you're star. let them be, don't let it affect you. have a great day.
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• United States
7 Nov 10
Well like I said, it is rare that I rate negative and as for ignoring them....I believe you saw my little ongoing discussion on tying a dog up on a dog run...Sometimes I can't let it go, especially when I see not only veterinarians suggesting this, but also got a couple experts who also agree. That guy was just out for blood and I wasn't going to let him have it...lol Though it is a rarity that I get into a discussion like that and I have ignored some idiots, but that one, I couldn't let go..
• United States
6 Nov 10
I never knew the significance of the ratings until you can see your score once you hoover over the star. I notice my star was higher the other day and everyday I log in, my numbers reduce. I think it is unfair to get a reduced star without an explanation. The admins should make it where.. if you give a positive feedback star then you have to include a reason along with a negative to make it fair.
• Philippines
7 Nov 10
Hello infatuatedbby, there are two things at that. first, it's either that one of you're discussion got deleted some how or simply one of those topics are actually violation or some one else reported it. or look at it the other way, some actually neg rate you for some reason.
• Philippines
5 Nov 10
Well to be honest , i wasn't aware of there is this star rating system here. I don't know how you get a good rating and it is sad that it is possible that people could rate you just judging on their state of mind or moods at the moment. I hope the Admin will do something about this cause me myself will feel bad if my rating is going down, inasmuch as from this moment i will be checking on it with regards to my account. There are bitter mylotters here who for some reason hates it so much when other people are excelling and they are not. Peace to all mylotters! Let love and peace prosper at mylot.
• Philippines
7 Nov 10
Hello lipstick, Well,we should be at peace with each other instead of hating or neg rating each other.we came all from different parts of the world. it's gonna be a long talked to the admin side. for now, we just have to avoid angry post. I don't understand their bitterness, if only they are not allowing bitterness to conquer them.
@Sanitary (3969)
• Singapore
5 Nov 10
I have read of many such cases in mylot. They are being bothered by trolls and those victims are frustrated with them as well as mylot. Complaints had been made countless times but admin seems to be useless. When one is targetted by trolls, it's a never ending process. This might be one reason why number of mylotters joining are almost equal to the number of members leaving. Trolls are destroying their joy here! I welcome trolls to target me and it's an open invitation for them here. I don't care about ratings at all.
• Philippines
7 Nov 10
Hello sanitary, Well, trolls go strong if they indeed try to provoke you. and if you are provoke them, they don't go away.so it's really best that we should keep ignoring these people because they liked it if you take the bait and continue being angry here and there.just avoid them as long as possible.
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@paula27661 (15899)
• Australia
5 Nov 10
I wish there was no such thing as a rating system and that everybody was the same. I would like not to bother with reputation ratings because it can really bring a person down to see their star drop for no apparent reason. I wish admin made some changes in regard to this, maybe admin should be the only ones who can rate, I don’t know...But this system sucks a bit...
• Philippines
7 Nov 10
Hello Paula, Well, If there was no such as the rating system, then there should be no star at all as well. there's only a few admin,not to mention i could only mention one. so, for now, i think it's impossible to do so knowing a lot will be taken out of context.
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@jennbart (1332)
• Philippines
5 Nov 10
well, I think there are just some people who just do not know how to rate. Reading on some posts that I responded to, some who replied to my post just are not reading and keeps on posting irrelevant post and are very very far from what I meant in my post. So, I guess, if some people cannot post or reply a good answer, most likely, they do not know how to rate properly. :) My rating got a negative rating too from 84 down to 82.. and I think I know who that "chucky" is... he is playing... CHILD'S PLAY!
• Philippines
7 Nov 10
Hello Jennbart, Some just doesn't know it, yes. even during 2010 elections here, some mylotters really send me down because of the freaking political debate with regards to candidates. after that i avoided responding to topics that causes debates. for me, word war is a complete waste of time. we should be into the healthy discussions that are positively productive.
• United States
5 Nov 10
Sure it's annoying. These people are pests. But it shouldn't really be a big deal...
• Philippines
7 Nov 10
Hello elgoog, Welcome to mylot. trolls here are like the evil underground resistance. we never should coach their team.always read the quidelines. have a great day.
• Philippines
5 Nov 10
hi Lertran, Some things have not yet change and so is the rating which makes anyone who become a victim feel uninspired with a site which is good payer and have friendly members. Those two things makes a member stick but come a time to take a rest and do some other things since some are people have the fun to take other down for their own pleasure. I myself become less active posting or starting a discussion as I have fun more doing task such as the article writing and when their is no rating involve such reason make me stay for good. This site could attract more user by removing the rating system since it become a source of abuse and unfair treatment by other members at the same time become a source of disappointment for some folks..whether they admit or deny it..
• Philippines
7 Nov 10
Hello Neeiliascet, You know, i have never done task completely since I try on topic. but later as i browse them I became uneasy to respond or make a quality topic out of the task. even letters in the article there are relatively scrutenize. well, one lotter admitted a neg rating but not like the others who truly abuse the site.
@shaggin (37329)
• United States
4 Nov 10
My star rating luckily has not dropped it is still at a 10. I am very happy about that. I feel that I dont write nonsense replys like a whole bunch of mylot members I see who just have a stupid chat going on like how are you today? then the next person responds with im good. then the next person responds hello... Its so dumb. Mylot doesnt want that. I dont know what the case is with your friend who is getting rated down. I see some people who leave great posts and comments all the time but still have a low rating no matter how many positives I give them so I assume they are being trolled.
• Philippines
7 Nov 10
Hello Shaggin, Well, this is indeed a conversational social networking site. actually, this is the kind of social networking that most people should use. because not only you share ideas, you learned and not to mention, you can learn to type with out looking at the key board. i try to avoid controversial and conflict topics. thanks for dropping by.
@aerous (13474)
• Philippines
8 Nov 10
I don't know about ranting and if trolls are still around because as of this days. Mylot very strict on bad words most especially not suitable for the community