Is it up to us to question China's human rights?

@oldchem1 (8132)
November 10, 2010 4:37am CST
British PM is on an official visit to China. Many people have urged him to discuss China's policy on human rights (or not), it seems that he did raise the question of the Nobel Peace Prize Winner Liu Xiabo who was sentenced to 11 years in jail for publishing a political manifesto which was seen by the state as a threat to its stability. While human rights are not good in China, do you think that as an outside nation we have the rights to bring this up with china, and will it do any good anyway?
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@jb78000 (15139)
10 Nov 10
yes we and other nations do. human rights are one of those issues (there aren't many) where it is not 'up to a government' what they do and other countries have a right, in fact a responsibility to do what they can. that is one of the reasons for the un, although it hasn't been enormously effective. if a country is abusing human rights then other countries shouldn't ignore it - and it does have an effect. no country is completely isolated and they all rely on others to buy their exports or supply their imports. and you get countries criticising others human rights records but saying 'it is ok when we do it'. no it isn't. ok, that was garbled but i had a point in there somewhere.
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@oldchem1 (8132)
10 Nov 10
I really do have mixed feelings in individual countries criticising and interfering in other countries especially when the purpose of the visit is for a different reason altogether. I know only what I read in papers and see on the television of what is happening in China and I think it is very difficult for people from different cultures to understand different ways of life.
@jb78000 (15139)
10 Nov 10
you do have a problem when it is individual countries rather than a group that perhaps includes the country concerned. however the human rights abuses in china (or anywhere else for that matter) can't be excused on cultural grounds. i really don't think you can ever justify e.g. torture by saying oh well it is our way of life.
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• India
11 Nov 10
I British PM should bring up the issue. And not just British PM anyone else should bring it up. Human species don't just live as individual or even as isolated nation state. We live as individuals, but also as nation state and also as a global community. An issue like that of human right is an issue that has got with global community because by virtue of belonging to that human species one is endowed with that right; and thus no one, not even sovereign state, can be allowed to deprive a person of his human right. I think one reason why we now seem to have a more relative idea of human right is because many people are just associating human right with any issue. And I think such association is bad thinking plus harmful move for human species.
• India
11 Nov 10
Chinese are in general very touchy about their national sovereignty. I think more touchy than many other nations. However, I think because China has been bad on human right for sometime now so it can be left on its own. After all if there is some terrible thing happening it will affect the neighbouring countries. Now that political boundaries of countries are becoming more and more porous it hurts others too. When Tibet was attacked many Tibetans came to India as refugees. Even now there are million of them in India. It thus has an effect on India. India can't just leave the Tibetans on their own and let them get killed either!
@oldchem1 (8132)
11 Nov 10
However as you see from the previous response the people of China seem to feel that we shouldn't bring it up. It is a very tricky situation.
@ElicBxn (63252)
• United States
11 Nov 10
I do think that other countries should bring it up, and as people in other countries, if we don't like their record, we should make our desires known, but NOT buying the stuff they produce. Hard, I know, but if we want to change things on the inside, then we need to let them know by not supporting them from the outside.
@oldchem1 (8132)
11 Nov 10
I think that there have been a lot of boycotts, the problem is knowing just what is made where!
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@CatsandDogs (13963)
• United States
11 Nov 10
Yes I do think we have that right because the people in China are born into this way and haven't a choice in the matter. If they try to get out of the country without permission, they're most likely to be killed. That's not right at all. Every human being should have a right to be free to choose life as they see fit as long as it's not hurting another. Holding a bunch of people basically 'hostage' just isn't what human life is suppose to be about. Put it this way, if I were in a country that was holding me back, I'd hope someone would speak up on my behalf. To be in such a place would be hell for me, not worth living. Imagine actually being there.
@oldchem1 (8132)
11 Nov 10
I understand this side of it however many of the people seem to be very satisfied with their lot - it seems that what's bad to us isn't o them; I really don't know what to think!
• United States
10 Nov 10
I don't think it will do much of anything unless it would be used as a bargaining chip tward trade agreements. As I know many companies say 10-15yrs ago here had to drop some clothing lines because they were not treating their employees decently overseas & some stores even dropped brands over some contraversies as they did not want to be seen as promoting such conditions. Honestly, it's all tricky stuff especially since they are a manufacturing powerhouse and all people can afford to buy now days seems to come from overseas wich is a contributor to our job losses here.
@oldchem1 (8132)
11 Nov 10
It is really tricky, I know that my sister was in the clothing industry for years but lost about three jobs when the trade went overseas - she's a cleaner now!
11 Nov 10
Hello,oldchem1.Could answer 2 questions first? 1.If someone always think that he is right and says that the others must do as he says, if not, he will do something no matter whether you like. Do you like people of this kind. 2.If a foreigner do something bad in UK and was sentenced to jail, then the president of his coutry ask British PM to release this criminal with no conviction. Do British PM will aggree that. I think your answer is no. Yes,I must adimit that there are too much problems, including human rights, existed in China, but it can be solved by ourselves. Thanks for your concern!!!!! At last,I want you know that do not do to others what you would not have them do to you.
• India
11 Nov 10
Whether it's Chinese issue or British issue, I think, when it's a matter of human right we need to speak up. Politics is not always fair. And therefore it needs global community to police the sovereign states. Whether it's UK or US or China etc there will be violations of human right on various counts and as citizens of the world and member of global community human right issue transcends boundaries. Had it not been human right affair of course one should not just poke nose into other people's affair.
@oldchem1 (8132)
11 Nov 10
So as a Chinese resident you are saying that you would prefer outside countries don't interfere? This is very interesting.
• India
10 Nov 10
In my opinion Chinese are the best one to question on their human rights. As an outsider we need to give them the opportunity to first come upto a solution. Later when there is no mutual agreement we can interfere.
@oldchem1 (8132)
10 Nov 10
Yes I to tend to agree with you on this point.
• China
10 Nov 10
china has a lot of money , china had signted up one agreement with france for 40 billion dollars ,bRITISH PM aslo want one big agreement with china to overcome the contry's economic's crisis , it is PM's result