Can spirituality be a solution for crime and corruption?

India
December 17, 2010 11:59am CST
There are people in my country who are trying to induce nationalism into people's mind through spirituality. I thought spirituality is a rather private feelings. Everybody has religion, but not everyone has spirituality. You can not teach someone spirituality, can you? All you can do is you can show people the way and tell them what comes after it. The rest is really not in your hands. What would happen if we put dangerous criminals in monastery instead of jail? [i]Can spirituality solve the problems of crime and corruption? [/i] hat do you think?
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@vandana7 (98866)
• India
18 Dec 10
Hi kiddo, I too feel spirituality is private.. how I relate or perceive god may be a whole lot different from what you think or imagine. And yes, religion and spirituality are not synonymous. Even religion cant be taught. But as far as putting dangerous criminals in monastery, I do have some thoughts. If spirituality does make people calmer and more capable of answering the questions of people, then may be it would be possible for them to reform dangerous criminals, and make them see light by patiently understanding and answering their questions, and calming their feelings. I believe many dangerous criminals are so because they've been ill-treated, or something unjust has happened to them. That lot at least can benefit considerably from spiritual company.
@vandana7 (98866)
• India
19 Dec 10
Kiddo - modern reformists are not my idea of people who can do this. :) I could select people like bird and you for starters to try and repair people. :) At the bottom of it in most cases lies a hurt that needs to be tended. At least that is what I believe. :)
• India
19 Dec 10
Ma, I personally believe that there is always a scope of reform. But things taught at some early age are always found to be more fundamental. In order to reform a person one or more of these fundamental traits must be unlearned. If we skip this step, new ideas may be in conflict with long held beliefs. That makes the reform process long and tedious. I wonder if the so called 'reformists' in modern world can have that amount of patience required for this.
@deedee328 (1122)
• United States
18 Dec 10
I have never thought of spirituality being a private feeling. Generally speaking, spiritual people are believers in one god or another. I am a Christian,(and therefore, believe in God). I do not think that I can keep my spirituality a private matter. If you are living a Godly life, then it shows itself. I agree that you can not force spirituality on other people. You can share your beliefs and tell them of your experiences, but you can not dictate what is in their heart and soul or what they choose to believe. I think that if not a solution, true spirituality would be at the very least a deterent to crime and corruption. If we all obeyed the laws of God, there would be neither of those things for any of us to worry about. To put criminals in a monestary instead of a prison would be interesting experiment.
@deedee328 (1122)
• United States
20 Dec 10
You can't induce spirituality in someone else. Each of us has to choose for ourselves what we believe and what we don't. You set good examples for others by keeping true to your spirituality and beliefs. I dont really agree that you have to keep someone in a better environment for years to change him/her into a better person. I believe that through God, changes in people can be made in seconds. We have to continue to pray for our fellow man, and the patience to wait on God to do what He chooses, when He chooses to do it.
• India
18 Dec 10
Well spirituality can certainly change a person, a person who has it. But I really don't know how to induce spirituality into others. But sometimes being and staying honest in one's life can be a good example for others. For example, if in your entire life, you promote honesty and love then it is highly likely that your children will inherit those traits from you. Spirituality, in that way, can work as a touchstone. You touch something and it becomes brilliant. But one significant point here is that you need to keep someone in a better environment for years to actually change him into a better man. That invariably needs tremendous patience on our part.
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@irene66 (1669)
• Philippines
19 Dec 10
I think being religious may help. Only if the person will life with the teaching of his religion. But it will not totally eliminate crime and corruption. It is more on the self discipline and values of an individual that makes the difference.
• India
20 Dec 10
I completely agree with you there. Religion is not enough. We must also be aware of what's going on around us. We should learn our history well. Most people who are corrupt learned history just to climb the stair to the position he is holding now. Education can play a vital role here. But rot learning will be more dangerous than beneficial. We should try to add more value to our education as mere education alone is not sufficient either.
@saphrina (31552)
• South Africa
18 Dec 10
Hi sweetie. We can try and put them in a monastery, but that won't work out so well. I always say. You cannot make people believe and be spiritual. It has to come from one self. Spirituality won't ever never solve those problems. I wish they will stop pestering people like that. It's irritating. TATA.
• India
19 Dec 10
Since dealing with one's psychology does not always give desired outcome, there is a high risk in this kind of approach. Also in such an experiment there is always a possibility for relapse. The greater portion of human mind is still unexplored and there may be unprecedented ramifications of our activities. This is something that you wouldn't want to tamper with. Spirituality is always good, but to make it work one must have the necessary foundation. Preparing that kind of foundation is not a matter of joke. What if it fails? Due to this uncertainty it doesn't sound feasible to put violent criminals in a monastery or any other public places, at least for a significant amount of time. By the way, you see the number next to my username here? That's my birth year. We've not been chatting for centuries. Don't you come online on YM anymore?
@saphrina (31552)
• South Africa
19 Dec 10
Well i always aid get permanently rid of criminals and politicians, but no one ever listen to me. I'm a bit busy sweet ea. Maybe later today, okay.
@saphrina (31552)
• South Africa
19 Dec 10
Every human being has a criminal side to them, Vannie. If i could get that chance right now, i would cause havock. Only common sense keep me from doing that.
• United States
17 Dec 10
We can apply wisdom through our actions with regards to religion and spirituality. However we cannot forcibly enforce religion and or spirituality. I find that crime and corruption cannot be solved by anyone wanting, needing and enforcing the need to solve it. Crime and corruption has to be stopped because the person(s) no longer want to partake and or commit them. No one can change anyone into anything, we can only simply apply our opinions and hope for the best. Strictly my opinion and in no way enforcing upon anyone.
• India
18 Dec 10
Do you consider spirituality your strength? If you do then it can also be regarded as a force. Indeed, this is a great force that can change a person for good. Now, like every good lessons, the lessons of spirituality should be imparted at early childhood. When we grow old, we pick up different things from our environment. Sometimes they significantly influence our traits and shapes our personality. Now if you try to impart anything new like spirituality, then that person must first unlearn the violence and then learn spirituality. Now this is really a very laborious task. New information are almost always in conflict with long held belief, even if the latter has no truth in it.
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
17 Dec 10
I agree that spirituality cannot be taught, but what's bad is it can be faked, and we have no way of confirming if the spiritual person is for real or just fooling all of usand what if get to elect the so-called fake gurus to a high position in office like the presidency of prime ministry?I don't think it's a good idea to put dangerous criminals is a monastery,if they fool us pretending they have already been transformed LOL, there gonna do some real terrible things to those nuns and monks in the monastery maybe we should keep them where they belong. Nice topic and nice discussing, good luck
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• India
18 Dec 10
That's perfectly justified. Spirituality can be faked all right. Sometimes there are gurus making a loot of the superstitious people whom they call their disciples. I saw a few such gurus and their disciples. They dance with pop music and eat and binge as much as they wish. This means there is no way we can differentiate whether a person is spiritual or not. Spirituality may change a person for good, but efficacy of religion lies in the mentality of the person who adopts it. There it becomes a seriously risky venture.
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@SHAMRACK (8576)
• India
20 Jan 11
Dear friend, I feel how well this is accepted by those criminals. Moreover may be people have more belief in these. It might be a kind of brainwashing them to another world. It depends a better part on those who try to brainwash them. I feel it is easy to be done to those who get enough reasons to believe something.
• Singapore
9 Feb 11
True spirituality can really be a solution for crime and corruption. Or should I say, true spirituality is the only everlasting solution for all sins on Earth. There's all the hype about spirituality, because there are people who misuse spirituality as a cover to commit crimes such as cheating, propaganda and so on. Then, there is also the confusion between religion and spirituality, as some people would lump religion and spirituality together and use them interchangeably, while others would side with one of them and condemn the other. All this happens because these people do not understand spirituality well enough. To me, spirituality is really a simple thing. It just means to follow God's Wish and His Will for me. I know, some people will ask "Won't you use that as an excuse to do some evil things, to shirk responsibility, to do this, to do that...?" That occurs because they don't know this - God will never tell a person to do things that will affect others negatively, He will only tell that person to help others, to improve society and to grow spiritually. When a person grows spiritually, the inclination in him to do evil, which is deeply embedded in his subconscious mind, will be removed at its roots through the Grace and Will of God. Thus the person would gradually become less inclined to commit crimes and do evil. In time to come, doing bad things would become totally against his nature, and he'll never think of doing it at all. Spirituality can be private in some sense, because everyone has a different amount of destiny that they need to overcome before they can truly grow spiritually. However it doesn't mean the way to do it is different for each people. That's because God has granted all people the same way to become one with Him. The part about showing people the way is quite true too, because the theory can only bring you a small step ahead in spiritually. The more important thing would be to experience spirituality, by putting into practice the theories and advice given. Only then will the seeker be able to advance.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
20 Dec 10
I will agree with you that spirtuality isn't something that can be taught, but I tend to think that everyone has their own form of spirituality while not everyone has religion in their lives. That said, I don't think that everyone having spirituality is something that would be able to solve the problems of crime and corruption in the world today. Instead, I think that in order to get rid of all crime and corruption all people need to have an understanding of the difference between right and wrong.
@Sanitary (3968)
• Singapore
20 Dec 10
I don't think so. Like u mentioned, spirituality is a private thing. It's all in the mind, and how are people going to believe in what they said, when we don't even know what's really going through their mind. It's dangerous to try it this way because it's more likely to backfire than work. It might only work after years when the criminal themselves are tired of being on the run, then they would consider spirituality.