Even Karl Rove Knows President Obama Will Win in 2012!

@anniepa (27955)
United States
December 26, 2010 11:37pm CST
You can hear him say it with his own mouth - here's the transcript of his appearance on Fox News' Greta VanSusteren's show followed by a link where you can watch the video: VAN SUSTEREN: Secretary of State Hillary Clinton says that she’s going to stay through I think this administration which is another two years and then leave. Um, she said she’s not going to run for President, she’s out. What are your thoughts? You think we’ll see her as a contender, and will she finisht the last two years of this administration? ROVE: Oh, I think she definitely will finish the last two years. I don’t think she’s going to run in 2012. That’s even duplicitous for a Clinton. I’m not certain that I agree, that I accept what she said about she’s not going to be a candidate in 2016. I think she will. VAN SUSTEREN. I meant ‘16, I meant ‘16. ROVE: Yeah, I suspect she will be a candidate. She’s going to think about being a candidate in 2016. And we’ll know by about 2014. If she leaves the administration in 2014 or 2015 in order to give herself a chance to write a book about her experiences and reconnect with the grassroots then she might entertain it. She’ll be younger in 2016 than John McCain was when he ran and she will, I suspect, be a big presence on the Democrat (sic) scene. http://www.dailykos.com/tv/w/002784/ Any thoughts? Annie
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matersfish
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
27 Dec 10
I've heard the prices of gold are still rising. If I shoot you over some straw, can you hook me up? I'll pay .20 on the dollar. I'd like for Hillary to run immediately though. I want to see Obama sweat some more.
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louierrific24
@louierrific24 (1114)
• Philippines
27 Dec 10
He is sweating more and more! I'm not in the US, I've never been in the US so I'm not that inclined to US politics but I'm quite curious with Sarah Palin. Strong candidate?
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matersfish
@matersfish (6306)
• United States
27 Dec 10
I was literally shocked when I noticed this discussion didn't drop Palin. Maybe it did and I just didn't read close enough. But lo and behold... Palin pops up! "Strong"? She probably can't win. And I wouldn't want her to win, personally. I happen to like the out-of-office, whimsical, tell-it-like-it-is Palin. If she were to become a politician again, she'd probably be just like the rest - a schmuck. But she is Annie's favorite person in history!
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anniepa
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
27 Dec 10
Last things first, maters... Maters, you know Hillary isn't going to run immediately but I do hope she runs in 2016. No, I didn't drop Palin in this discussion because this discussion has nothing to do with Palin. However, since she's barged her way in, I can hardly be blamed for adding my two cents, can I? I really have no problem with the fact that you and many others "like" Palin in the way that you like her. In other words, it's fine to like her in the same way one would like any number of celebrities, in particular reality show stars who end up becoming "famous for being famous". I have to sort of disagree with part of your one sentence - "If she were to become a politician again..." - because I don't think she's ever actually stopped being a politician. Anyway, louierrific24, Sarah Palin would not be a strong candidate but she just might be able to win the GOP nomination if her base is mobilized enough. I kind of doubt that the Republican establishment would allow that to happen, but one never knows. Annie
gewcew23
@gewcew23 (8007)
• United States
28 Dec 10
Demonize Karl Rove all you want to but I do not think we can find one person who will say that he doesn't know what he is talking about. Rove probably sees that the majority of the Republican voting base has moved to far to the right, which will elected a nominee that will be far to the right of the majority of American people. Rove probably also understands that Obama's unpopularity has hit it's basement. This means the Obama's popularity will increase as he battles the GOP controlled House. Even if Obama's popularity doesn't improve, his numbers are still good enough to trump any Republican nominee, that this current GOP climate will produce.
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anniepa
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
29 Dec 10
I'm not particularly fond of Karl Rove but I know he knows his stuff. The ironic thing is if he had the power over his party he once had, he just might be able to work his "magic" again but thanks in part to some in the tea party movement the GOP has moved way too far to the right for the mainstream. Annie
dark_joev
@dark_joev (3034)
• United States
28 Dec 10
Yeah, The GOP producing a non far right canidate is highly unlikely which giving the credit to Rove is most likely what he is seeing is that most Americans are actually Centralist in that they fall not on one side or the other but float somewhere in between the two extremes which doesn't help when you have the GOP picking from one side which is the far far far right and the Democrats picked Obama who for the most part is a middle ground left politician.
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laglen
@laglen (19759)
• United States
27 Dec 10
Annie, I would first like to congratulate you on not dropping Palin's name in the whole original post! I believe Hillary wont run this election but I dont believe she will stay out of the game. Regarding Rove's prediction, good for him but I disagree, I believe this will be like Jimmy Carter all over again. The opposition is getting stronger and stronger. The only way I think Obama could pull it off is is the GOP REALLY screws up. .... oh wait a minute... That sure doesnt instill much hope. There is always Independents....
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laglen
@laglen (19759)
• United States
28 Dec 10
By opposition, I meant people that oppose him. Not necessarily someone who will run against him. Regarding Palin. It is simply because you never start a discussion unless it is about her. It was refreshing that you had somebody else to write about!
anniepa
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
27 Dec 10
See above...but it sure seems like everyone so far wants to bring Palin into it, doesn't it...lol? As for it being like Jimmy Carter all over again, even if I agreed that President Obama hasn't been an effective President, which I don't, there is still one HUGE difference - there is NO Ronald Reagan waiting in the wings for 2012! I'm not exactly sure what or whom you meant when you wrote that the opposition is getting stronger and stronger because I really don't see anyone who could win in a general election unless something really huge happens between now and then. I'm certainly no fan of Karl Rove and I've rarely agreed with him, but in this case I think he realizes they just don't have anyone who could win in 2012. He obviously didn't mean to "make news" with his words but it came out very casually, as if he's already resigned to a second Obama term. Annie
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ParaTed2k
@ParaTed2k (22940)
• Sheboygan, Wisconsin
28 Dec 10
Every election is the incumbent's to lose.
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anniepa
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
29 Dec 10
Well said, short but sweet. Annie
dark_joev
@dark_joev (3034)
• United States
28 Dec 10
Karl Rove as many in the GOP are worried about next election cycle because so far the Republicans don't have anyone lined up or even close to someone that they feel could take Obama on they are also in the middle of fighting one of their own to well have them stay in Alaska. The GOP is right now fighting the very movement that it helped grow to fight the Democrats out. I should use the Word Highjacked a movement to get the Demos out so they could regain the power that they so totally miss.
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anniepa
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
28 Dec 10
You know, I've thought for quite some time it was the Democrats who were best at messing up a perfect opportunity but the GOP is determined to give them a run for the money. They hijacked the tea party movement which in turn no doubt cost them the Senate Majority. It's seemed like every time someone has surfaced that looked like the "new face" of the Republican Party, they've turned out to be disasters. It's not that long ago that Bobby Jindal and Mark Sanford were being touted as Presidential contenders. John Ensign is another one, before his affair was exposed. A few weeks ago I heard some conservatives praise Haley Barbour as a political genius - then he made the outrageous claim that the civil rights movement wasn't that bad in his Mississippi hometown. You're right, I think most in the GOP kind of agree with Barbara Bush about hoping Sarah Palin stays in Alaska. I kinda say, "Run, Sarah, Run!"...lol! Annie
ajett1
@ajett1 (65)
• United States
27 Dec 10
win in 2012? the man has a 40 something approval rating I don't think many people who don't aprove of him will vote for him Obama will be out of office in a year his whole administration has been a joke he hasn't delivered on any of his promices the war in Iraq is still going wall street is still in shambles gitmo is still in business, Im sure im leaving something out. If we keep him in office it will just prove what everyone already knows but it isn't politically correct to admitt Barak Obama was put in office because of the color of his skin no other reason.
anniepa
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
27 Dec 10
Actually, his approval rating has improved lately and it's higher than either Bill Clinton or Ronald Reagan at this point in their Presidencies. Also, the facts are that he HAS kept around 80% of his campaign promises and his term isn't even quite half over. Out of curiosity, who do you think will beat him in 2012? Annie
anniepa
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
28 Dec 10
What I meant was who do you suppose the Republican nominee will be? So far Obama is leading all the contenders in early polls, and by some healthy margins. I really don't like to discuss race in these kinds of discussions because it has nothing to do with the topic whatsoever. Annie
ajett1
@ajett1 (65)
• United States
27 Dec 10
the republican nominee after the midterm elections how could you see diferent americans are fed up with all the liberal bull conservitives are showing up at the polls in droves I don't think his skin color can save him this time.
RK Finnell
@irishidid (8688)
• United States
28 Dec 10
Glutton for punishment are we? I swear you bunch are like little kids who stick their finger in the outlet over and over again never making the connection of why your finger hurts.
anniepa
@anniepa (27955)
• United States
28 Dec 10
Huh??? Annie