Do we need to give money to beggars?

Philippines
January 7, 2011 4:12am CST
Is it our responsibility?? As people who earn money, as Christans, as neighbors, are we obliged to give something to them? i think we are a bit obliged to give money to them- but if we do, they'll never stop asking for money.. They'll never learn to live independently , don't you think?
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@lady1993 (27225)
• Philippines
12 Mar 21
It depends really. some of them may be part of a syndicate, so i rarely give, unless food. So i know they will really enefit from it.
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• Philippines
24 Mar 21
yes i think food is much better at least we know where it is going.
@lady1993 (27225)
• Philippines
26 Mar 21
@stanley777 yes, and when they don't accept, maybe they are part of the syndicate
@jennbart (1330)
• Philippines
7 Jan 11
It is not our responsibility to give them money, but its their responsibility to look for jobs. we are not obliged to give money, I do not give money. If we give, we will just teach them to be irresponsible and they will never ever learn to look for jobs as they will think " I need not look for a job, I can ask money anyway!" Give money to legal organizations, it will be more beneficial since they just do not ask for money but they do something to get money. Sometimes, they make bags, pastries. They sell them. Its so much better than just asking.
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• United States
9 Jan 11
Absolutely right. There are a couple of deaf, or hearing impaired people that I went to school with that made crafts and sold them to help support their schooling and later their families. I never felt obligated but was always willing to help someone that was helping themselves. Give a man a fish, he eats for a day, teach a man to fish and he eats everyday. Always true.
• Philippines
10 Jan 11
Its true giving them money will only make them more dependent on others.There are legitimate charitable institutions that helps these people and even teach and gives training to them so that they can find work later and support them.So we should give directly to this institutions.We have no obligation to them but sometimes out of pity we give them but think about it will it last for a day, how about the next... thanks
@ifa225 (14364)
• Indonesia
9 Jan 11
it is complicated actually. but i still give the beggar money cause i can't give him a job. how can he make something to earn while just for eating he can't afford to buy it?
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• Philippines
14 Jan 11
yeah, most of us give though.I too give to those whom I see really needed help like the old and incapacitated.Its our option to give or not but I guess the right move is to donate the money directly to legitimate charitable institutions because they are built and organized for these purposes.thanks...
@indahfth (11161)
• Indonesia
8 Jan 11
If I had more money. I'm more happy by giving them money, as the business capital. That way, they could have a job, and do not have to become beggars.
@indahfth (11161)
• Indonesia
11 Jan 11
There are many beggars, who beg really to eat.
@indahfth (11161)
• Indonesia
13 Jan 11
I also often see something like that. children used as beggars, for the sake of people who are not responsible. I really regret this. I also do not agree with things like this. I usually do not give money to beggars are like this. I often give food to them.
• Philippines
14 Jan 11
Yes, in third world countries this is actually happening. Syndicates sometimes kidnapped children and even maimed them to look more pitiful and scattered them on streets to beg fr them.Its really hard to know which is which if they are being used or not.thanks again...
• Philippines
7 Jan 11
Good Day! I do give sometimes. It depends on the beggar. if the beggar is handicap or old I just can;t help myself to give because he can't work for himself anymore with his situation but I don't give to those who still looks that they can still do something for themselves. I usually give food to beggars. Food instead of money so that I'm sure that they wouldn't spend it on something that is not important.
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• Philippines
7 Jan 11
Yes, as an individual most of us really have a soft heart especially to the needy.But in our country this is a common scenario, you can see almost in every city.Our government has been doing all the help they can extend especially to those who can still have the capability to earn for themselves.Me too I give to those who can not afford to work and support themselves like the older one.But others make it their way of living even using their younger children to do the working for them.I really pity them but sometimes we have to ignore them so that they will learn to help and support themselves not for begging.thanks.
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• New Zealand
8 Jan 11
Christian or non christian. Giving money to the beggar is a matter of choice for the donor. It should not be an obligation nor should it be considered as a responsibility. (ABUSE)Because if it is then certain beggars would take that as an opportunity to reap in cash from any working people without contributing to society. This can be perceived as quite selfish. Working people may consider giving money to beggars provided they are capable of sustaining their basic needs and they would not mind giving their excess wealth(money). To answer the question "Do we need to give money to beggars? My answer is no, it is a matter of choice.
• Philippines
11 Jan 11
Yes, I agree with you that it is a matter of choice and definitely not our responsibility. But it would be better if beggars were placed in a shelter so they won't wander around the streets and can eat daily..
@anne25penn (3305)
• Philippines
8 Jan 11
I don't give money to beggars. I hate seeing people begging on the streets, especially those who have infants on their arms. My point is, you are already unable to feed yourself, why should you allow a child suffer the same fate? Also, I know that these are syndicates and that not all beggars are really beggars. So I don't give anything, not even food. Because I have had the experience where the food I gave I saw this young girl throw in the garbage bin when she thought I had already left and could not see her. They claim to be begging for food and you give them food and they throw it away. So I take no pity on these people.
@alottodo (3056)
• Australia
8 Jan 11
Sorry to disagree but I do take pity on these people! why? because they have not reach the stage to be proud as a human been? I don't know...but yes I feel pity for them...I hope I would never have to be in their shoes[ to be in their shoes mean] never to be in their situation!
• Philippines
11 Jan 11
I feel mixed emotions for them though- pity and a bit of disappointment. But that was really harsh, the girl throwing the food. I remember my friend tried to give this boy food but he just left because he wanted money instead... Children shouldn't be begging...
@bingskee (5234)
• Philippines
8 Jan 11
i would like to believe because of pity for the less fortunate, the tendency always is to give change for the beggars. there is a law in the Philippines, the Mendicacy Law of 1978, that prevents anyone to give to mendicants or beggars. a part of it says: "Whereas, mendicacy breeds crime, creates traffic hazards, endangers health, and exposes mendicants to indignities and degradation;..."
• Philippines
11 Jan 11
Yes, I've also heard abut that law- about not giving money to beggars.. Thanks for the added information. About the lumads, I think it's okay though..it's not like here in our place that they beg for a living, every single day....
@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
8 Jan 11
No. It is not our obligation to give them anything kind even if this is Christmas, my friend. Under the rule of the bible...if you give them always as they ask. Your tolerated them for being lazy and you make them much beggar than you think...
• Philippines
11 Jan 11
Yes, I remember this saying in - "If you give a man fish, he'll live for a day; but if you teach him how to fish, he'll never go hungry forever" (was it like that?) Thanks for your response.
@aerous (13434)
• Philippines
11 Jan 11
Yup! you right, my friend. if we help people we know in our heart who's people really need helps
• Australia
8 Jan 11
I give when I can. God said do unto others as you would expect them to do to you. You never know when the situation is going to be reversed, and it'll be you that needs the help.
• Australia
11 Jan 11
What I used to do when I was working and unsure was when I saw a beggar, I'd go into the nearest take away shop, by a couple of sandwiches and a drink, and as I walked past, I'd give that to him.
• Philippines
14 Jan 11
I admired your humility TigerSpirit, and I know your a good person.Being humble is hard to find this days.I just imagine your reaction when you saw people who really needs help even buying food for them.thanks again.
• India
8 Jan 11
I always promise not to give money to beggers but could not stop me doing so but I still do not give it to the one who is fit and fine, not doing anything just trying to get money by begging. I try to help the one who can not work or physically chellanged. We should not give money to theone who can earn money by some or the other way. Thank You for sharing.
• India
11 Jan 11
Some people has made begging as a business and do not want to work, so we need to discourage them from doing this business. At the same time we should not ignore the onw who really need our help
• Philippines
14 Jan 11
Yeah I have seen people like that too.They make begging their line of work because maybe they earn more than the regular worker I guess and a lot easier.Not thinking that the one who gave them alms, sometimes have difficulty on making both ends meet.thanks for the response
• Philippines
11 Jan 11
Yes, I definitely do not give to healthy looking people- but there are some that disguise themselves to look poor and thin... i have even seen really old people working, so why can't they?
@RobtheRock (2433)
• United States
9 Jan 11
I don't know if it's an obligation or not. As a Christian, I give because Jesus tells me to. I don't know if the beggar is using the money for bad purposes or not. That's not my concern. I give from my heart, hoping and praying that it's for a good cause. I agree that there are beggars who are con artists. But there are also beggars who have given up on trying. The economy is still bad here and some folks have given up hope of living the American Dream. Some of them were addicts before they became beggars while some become addicts after losing hope of being somebody. You don't have a job, family, woman, you have to feel good somehow! Yet, I understand that it can be a drain having someone constantly asking for money too. The world is just a messed up place and even good people fall and can become beggars.
• Philippines
11 Jan 11
Its not our obligation to give to them but an option for us.I think most of us gives but to certain points, like if beggars are old to work and support him or incapacitated.Anyway there are some charitable institution that takes care of these people giving them shelter, food and clothings, but some of them preferred begging than staying in this institutions.Also by giving, we show to them that what they were doing is just and even encourage them not to be productive or dependent to others.thanks
• United States
11 Jan 11
Hello Stanley. You have a point but that is not the case all of the time. That's why Jesus said that we don't know what troubles a person is going through, that we are not in their head. I've been in a homeless shelter. They put too much requirements on you and some people are too used to being by themselves and they don't like the requirements. And some of them get in fights and no matter who starts the fight, the combatants get kicked out of the shelter into the streets. So they go out and beg. I've stayed in a shelter in Ann Arbor where you had to sleep in chairs. If you tried to stretch out and sleep on the floor, they'd put you out. Those chairs are hard to sleep on. So you stay awake all night trying to get to sleep. And if you're new, you stay awake because you're afraid someone will steal you belongings. I remember my first night in a shelter where this guy was wondering around like he was sleep walking. You can't find a job in the morning because you are too tired and sleepy. I've seen the "professional beggars" who are con artists and I've seen the beggars who have given up on the world. Back in the sixties when people were begging, we needed to encourage them to be productive. But now days are different. People want to be productive but they can't if they can't get a job. So these days when you see a beggar, you really don't know his story.
• Philippines
14 Jan 11
Yeah RobtheRock, I got your point and I'm sorry to hear what you've been through before, I hope your are doing okey now.Well, with your chosen Username I guess your are doing great, keep it up my friend.So you have stayed in these shelter before, and by the way you have written it the people who manages this place are really mean and have stricter rules to follow.And those who can not abide by their rules preferred to stay out on the streets.Also there are some government institutions who provides assistance to these beggars especially those who can still work and support themselves and be productive.thanks again
• United States
8 Jan 11
I don't give, is that wrong? I work for my money, pretty hard in my opinion. I have seen the same homeless man on the same corner for 5 months. It's cold outside! If this man spent every day applying for a job for the last 5 months he wouldn't need to beg. If he didn't have arms or legs or was blind he could get disability and I might still give him money, out of pity, and they most likely wouldn't want pity money. I certainly wouldn't. Life is too short to wait around for someone to give you something. If you really need something you should work for it, not wait for someone who does work to give it to them. Nice topic!
• Philippines
11 Jan 11
I don't think it's wrong, it's your choice anyway. And it is your hard- earned money.. Yes,you're definitely right, if only they try harder, they wouldn't need to beg for money. Even handicapped people have jobs..Thanks for your response.
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• United States
11 Jan 11
thank you and no problem. You are right about handicap people and if someone with a disability tries than why shouldn't people without try?
• Philippines
13 Jan 11
many government and private institutions do assist in helping these people, they even would teach and train them how to earn a living for themselves but most of them stick to begging.I guess they thought its the easiest way of earning.Well we don't understand people sometimes.thanks again.
@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
9 Jan 11
Think of 'what money is.' It is something you work to get? Fine; ask the beggars to work to get it from you. "As Christians," Our Father gives unto you according to His abundance---pressed down, shaken together & STILL flowing over. If you have no place to get rid of that overflow, you look like a messy, drooling drunkard. So yes, you SHOULD give to beggars; but only to relieve you of some of the work juggling money around in order to keep it valuable.
• Philippines
14 Jan 11
So you mean you give them the excess, I agree with you on that but we are not sure if what we gave them are used to support them or anything aside from their vices.Because I'm sure not all of them are legitimate beggars, some have disguised just to support their vices.For me I think its better to donate it to charity who helps those who are in need for what ever excess we may have.thanks
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• Philippines
18 Jan 11
Yes, your right on that point its spare cash anyway and your heart ached for them.As long as you have done your part as a Christian in helping them and in your mind you have done a good deed, it doesn't matter to you whatever purpose they have used the money for.Thanks again mythociate and good day.
@mythociate (21437)
• Oklahoma City, Oklahoma
14 Jan 11
If you're talking about money you have "budgeted" to give away (a tithe), then I agree; that money is to go (as directly as you can move it) to building the Kingdom. I'm talking about 'spare cash' (and if you budgeted it as 'spare cash,' then spare spare cash---i.e. cash that you don't have any definite spendings in mind for yet). And (speaking worldly) if that cash goes to an 'evil' beggar (though you surely don't know if he's evil), it doesn't matter `coz you didn't need it anyway. I think of The Parable of the Sower: three-fourths of the seed he sowed went to waste, but the one-fourth that grew did so with enough abundance to make up for the lost portion hundreds of times!
@ladygator (3465)
• United States
9 Jan 11
There really is no wrong or right answer for this here. I give some people money and sometimes not. Everyonce in a while, I will think what if this were Jesus here asking for money to buy a slice of bread? I wait until my heart is nudged to help out. Thats what I do.
• Philippines
14 Jan 11
yeah there is nothing wrong with giving or not its our option.I think most of us regardless of religion were naturally humble,we do gives especially those who mostly needed it.And doing such acts is a plus for ourselves which reminds us what Jesus have done to beggars during His time.Thanks ladygator
@salonga (27775)
• Philippines
11 Jan 11
I don't give money to beggars. I don't think this is right. Many beggars although not all are part of syndicate. If we give them alms we are all the more helping the syndicate. Do you know that this syndicate are even kidnapping children and after they have kidnapped they will make the life of the children miserable by either blinding them or cutting their legs or whatever that would make them look pitiful to people so they could get more alms to the benefit of the syndicate. I have known someone whose child was kidnapped in a park and after so many months of searching she found her child begging in Hong Kong with legs and arms all amputated. It was done by the syndicate. It took her so many years to rehabilitate her pitiful child. Lately I also saw in the news how a certain child was blinded by the syndicate after he was kidnapped and then he was made to beg for the syndicate. This is really something authorities should look upon very seriously. Begging should be totally prohibited to discourage this syndicate from kidnapping more. I wonder why authorities are not really giving so much attention on this matter. Maybe once their own child is victimized that is the time they will act.
• Philippines
13 Jan 11
Its not an obligation on our part to give alms to beggars, but as an individual most of us can not just ignore them.Seeing how helpless, others are old enough to work so out of pity we spare them some loose change.Our government had offered help but some of them are really hard headed.Congress have even enacted " The Mendicacy Law of 1978"(Courtesy Of Bingskee - with Thanks))that prohibits anyone to give to beggars A part of it says... " mendicacy breeds crime, creates traffic hazards, endangers health, and exposes mendicants to indignities and degradation;..." And yes sometimes syndicates used these children to beg on streets and earn money for them.Like what you have said others are even maimed to look more convincing.One can never imagine how others could do such a gruesome act just to earn money.thanks salonga
9 Jan 11
I do not think anyone need feel obliged to give money to a beggar, here in the UK begging is a criminal offence, yet it still goes on. I do not give to them, I am not well off and to be honest, charity begins at home! I'd like to share an experience I had a year or so ago. A man was begging outside of a supermarket I use, he had a dog with him. When I left the shop I opened the multi-pack of dog food I'd bought for my own pet and offered the man one of the cans for his dog. The reulst? He called me a 'Stingy cow' and told me to F*** Off. No, I do not feel obliged to donate money to beggars!
• Philippines
14 Jan 11
Oh what an experienced, so beggars are really that mean these days.As you have said UK have a law which treats begging as a criminal offence and as a progressive country beggars still existed what more in other third word countries like ours.Begging is the easiest way of making a living, syndicates even used beggars mostly children to do the work for them and some policemen know whats happening but they do nothing because they are paid by these syndicates too.thanks for your comment brittle1906
• United States
9 Jan 11
I generally have, if I have anything on me. In this day of debit and credit cards, it is quite rare. I suppose I wonder what would happen if I were in that situation, desperate to help my family. I know there are a few who just scam, and that is truly sad. Generally, I assume that if you are willing to swallow your pride and beg for help from strangers, there must be some sort of need. A few years ago, we did not have much money, and none on us, it was very icy out and there was a man with a sign asking for money for food for his family. My husband told him to bring his family to the resteraunt we ran, and that we would get them a nice warm meal on us. He never came.
• Philippines
14 Jan 11
Yes, most of us do help the less fortunate.I guess that's a natural thing to us, whatever religion we are affiliated with.They taught the same principles and values but some uses begging an excuse to compel us to give to them.As you have said once your husband even invited them to have a nice warm meal in a restaurant but they never came.So this means that some of them are choosy on what they want from us.They mostly prefer money so that they can use it for whatever they like.thanks
• United States
8 Jan 11
Is it an obligation?..No..But tell me, do you believe that..What goes around comes around!..? I do so I help the homeless folk in my neighborhood as I can. Insofar as asking for money and always wanting more consider, if you will, government, churches and charities..Due to sudden health problems I now have need for help. Are the government, church and charities I have contributed to helping?..NO!..But still they stand with hands out looking for more..At least the homeless are honest in their need..Enjoy!
• Philippines
13 Jan 11
yes, we are not obligated to give to them.But its a natural thing to us to help others if we can, who are in-need.There are government institution, private companies, churches and other humanitarian groups willing to help them but others prefer to stay out on the streets.An giving only encourages them to think that what their doing is right.thanks and sorry to hear about your health problems I do hope others helps you too.as you have said what goes around comes around.
@deedee328 (1122)
• United States
8 Jan 11
I think it is our christian duty to help those less fortunate than ourselves. God tells us so. I think that your perspective is a slight bit jaded. Not every person who is asking for your money is a beggar and just looking for a handout. As christians, we are not suppose to judge.
• Philippines
13 Jan 11
its but natural for us to help those who needed our help or as you have said the less fortunate.yes I agree with you that not all of them are beggars, what I mean are those people who are dressed in torn dirty clothes or hand-me downs going from house to house to ask for food, loose change or whatever that one can give.There are many kinds of beggars there are children begging on streets which are most probably member of syndicates using those innocent children to do the work for them and this is really happening.there are charitable institution that are built to help these people but the problem was most of them don't want to go to this institution, because their movement would be limited not like when they are on the street which sometimes they earn more because people are really benevolent and sympathetic.Thanks.