"Stiff Tongue", anyone?

@Theresaaiza (10487)
Australia
March 5, 2011 11:33am CST
Have you ever tried learning another language which you absolutely do not know a single word to start with? Just lately, I am trying to learn basic French with only "bonjour" to brag about on Day 1. It's really like learning how to talk at as a 6-month old baby, or learning how to speak English at Kindergarten. (English is only a second language). Do you think it's not too late for me to learn and at least be close to being fluent in French? Let me just add that spelling of most French words is even harder with all the silent letters and unpronounced characters. What had been the hardest language to learn for you? Please do share some experiences. Merci! (2nd word to brag about!)
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• United States
6 Mar 11
It is never too late to learn a new language. I am fluent in two (English and German) and can get along in French and Italian. During the years I spent in North Africa I tried to learn Arabic and I found that to be very difficult and only learned a few basic phrases.
• United States
6 Mar 11
Mais oui mon amie!
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
6 Mar 11
I think it's the way of writing that makes Arabic even harder too. But i have a lot of friends who are in the middle east and became fluent in just a short time. Sometimes, when people around you are speaking the language that you are learning, it really helps. But thanks for the assurance. I hope you can tutor me on French.
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
7 Mar 11
Sure? Tres bien! Merci!(was that even right?) hahaha Please "excuse my French"
@bellis716 (4799)
• United States
6 Mar 11
The nearest I've ever come to learning a different language is having to learn Kentucky hill speak when my husband first took me back there to meet his parents. They use English words but in a different way than I learned.
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
6 Mar 11
It's probably the same situation as we have here in the Philippines. There are hundreds of dialects here, and even if we speak the same dialect there are words that are different and we may not understand each other to an extent. I'm sure you'll be adjusting but not much because it is still English, right?
@bellis716 (4799)
• United States
7 Mar 11
I soon learned that the closet is a press, the car is simply a machine, and a pillow is a pillar, as examples.
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
7 Mar 11
That's just so weird. Who knows what else you might say which has an entirely different meaning. Similarly, there are words from our dialect that have a totally different meaning from others. Some are even funny and really embarrassing. Example, we have the word, "libog" which means confused. In Manila, it means libido. So imagine the expression on their faces when we say it.
@ratyz5 (7808)
• Philippines
12 Mar 11
I use to try Japanese, but I really didn't get to do very well on it. Mostly on self study which is really hard because I didn't have anyone to practice it on. I had this interest when I was still watching a lot of anime and reading a lot of manga. (^_^") Now-a-days, I am trying Korean since it's part of the work I do. I don't know how to speak fluently. I try to listen to how they say their words or phrases, yet there are still some pronunciations that even themselves can be misleading. Sentences are quite difficult as their word order is totally different with what I try to teach them in English.
@ratyz5 (7808)
• Philippines
12 Mar 11
Well, it is.. then again, most of the things that we see on television, movies, magazines and so on are often in English. If another country was a super power, I guess we'd be adopting that country's language. That's what I think, anyway (^_^")
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
12 Mar 11
Isn't it ironic that the hardest languages to learn are those from Asia? Our neighbors, at that?
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@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
12 Mar 11
That is true. It just so happens that English had been more widely used than any language we know of. But my cousin once said that there are more Spanish speaking people in the world compared to English or French. If that was true, then I would have to be really surprised.
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@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
7 Mar 11
i believe you will get better as time goes by. if you are not getting it from a language school, you can get it from the people who speaks that language. my experience with the Bisayan language, specifically the Cebuano language. i am pure Tagalog and even though i learned a few words while watching tv programs, my experience in Cebu is a lot different. i have to speak with their language. i lived here for almost 20 years. so far, more people think i am already a bisaya.
@neildc (17239)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
8 Mar 11
not just in Bohol i guess. even here in Cebu or in the Luzon area where Tagalog is mostly used. you can tell they came from Argao or Dalaguete, or from Batayan. or one speaks Tagalog and you will know who comes from Bulacan or Batangas or Laguna. as i have mentioned, almost 20 years made me a bisaya in heart but still, i have more words and phrases to learn.
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
8 Mar 11
Never stop learning! And you are doing a good job!
@LadyMarissa (12148)
• United States
5 Mar 11
I live in the Southeast part of the United States. Anybody who has ever spoken to me can tell you I speak Southern with English as my second language!!! When I was in High School, I took French & found it almost impossible to speak!!! I could learn the words with NO problem, but couldn't write nor speak with any luck!!! My teacher said that if ANY of us Southerners went to France, the French would fall over laughing listening to us speaking French with a Southern accent!!! Now that our country is being invaded by people from South of the Border, I want to learn Spanish, but haven't started trying to learn it yet. I have found that my French comes in handy when hearing Spanish spoken as they seem to share some of the same word (or atleast similar words). I feel your pain when it comes to French as it was painful for me too!!!!
@LadyMarissa (12148)
• United States
6 Mar 11
J'taime!!! The one thing I have learned since high school is NEVER GIVE UP!!! Just readjust your attitude toward your goals!!! I've not needed French since high school; so, I've not had a reason to go back & try again!!! You have bitten off a big chunk there; but YOU CAN DO IT!!!!
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
7 Mar 11
Thanks for the encouragement, Lady M. And yes, I think I lost a few teeth from that big chunk!
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@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
6 Mar 11
I also feel some amount of pressure. I heard that French speaking people are very particular about correct accent, or pronunciation as if it's easy. In short, there's that pressure to perfect it or not speak it at all. I'm sort of having doubts whether I can really make it or not. Perhaps I bit off more than I could chew?
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• Canada
5 Mar 11
I actually found French an easy language to learn, People say English is the hardest.
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
5 Mar 11
Hi foreverfamous, where are you from, if you don't mind? "D'ou venez vous?" I believe it all depends on orientation. English is hard, being only a secondary language here in the Philippines, but I would rather be asked to speak English for 4 years than speak French for 4 minutes. It is just so hard knowing nothing at all about a certain language. I'm sure with practice you can polish your English as well. It really isn't hard considering that most of the countries worldwide already embrace the language.
• Canada
6 Mar 11
I live in Canada so one of our languages is French. In school we have to learn it. Once you learn the rules for silent letters and sentence structure it isn't too hard. But if you don't have someone to explain the rules to you, I imagine it would be hard.
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
7 Mar 11
That is quite my problem. In my province, there is only one tutor that I know of and so her price is rather high especially for someone on a tight budget. Of course I don't expect to perfect my French through CDs and books alone. Like learning English, having a live teacher is always an advantage.
@GardenGerty (157907)
• United States
6 Mar 11
If you want to learn it badly enough, you will do it. I think it would help if you could find people who can talk with you or check out tapes or something to listen to. I have never learned a second language.
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
7 Mar 11
I do feel blessed for this opportunity to learn another language but it is not without its share of difficulty. As of present, I am collecting materials to aid my study. I wish there were more available teachers or tutors in an area because there is nothing like having a real french speaker teaching us the basics.
@AmbiePam (85984)
• United States
6 Mar 11
Scientists say learning a new language later in life helps decrease the chances of getting any form of dementia by a significant amount. I want to learn Spanish since it is the second most spoken language in the United States. Hopefully I'll do that before too long.
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
6 Mar 11
Is that so? that's great. At least I am doing my body a little favor. Spanish is a great language to learn. Good luck on that!
@savypat (20216)
• United States
5 Mar 11
I have totally no talent for learning languages. I tried French in high school, it's the only class I ever failed and I had a tutor. So I admire all of you who have more than one language more than I can say.
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
6 Mar 11
I think I have always had the interest to learn a few foreign words but never the persistence except for English because it is basically the medium of instruction here so it almost comes natural. Though, of course, not as good as native speakers.
• United States
6 Mar 11
I think Chinese would be hard for me to learn as it has a bit of an accent to it and it contains the symbols instead of letters. Plus the alphabet is much larger then the English. I am fluent in Spanish and although it has a bit more letters then English I find it easy to speak.
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
6 Mar 11
You are so lucky for being fluent in Spanish. And I agree on you about Chinese being difficult. I heard there are even a lot of variations to the language including its written form. I don't think I could ever learn Chinese.
@tkonlinevn (6447)
• Vietnam
7 Mar 11
I like French too. But I have never started to learn it. I think that listening is the most difficult when I learn foreign language. I have some problems with my ears.
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
7 Mar 11
Awww I am sorry for you. Hearing is one of the best ways to learn it and it is rather sad that you have a problem in that area. Have you had it checked though?
@thatgirl13 (7294)
• South Korea
6 Mar 11
I don't think it's late to learn a new language. Actually i myself want to learn Mandarin which is like totally different to me. I know a few words though from the dramas i watch :D My friends say it's a tough language but i'm giving it a try soon.
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
7 Mar 11
Oh that's the spirit! I really wish you all the luck on that one!
• Philippines
6 Mar 11
Hola!I tried 3 languages...Spanish,simplified chinese and nihonggo but I found it easy to learn and pronounce is spanish since some of our filipino words are almost same as theirs. In this 3 languages i only knew and understand some sentences and few words. Learning other language for me is something really to brag because not all people in this world had the chance to understand,speak and even pronounce the foreign words. But i agree that it is not that easy to learn and you have to exert more effort to do so and perfect the language and speak like natives. here's some; hello= hola(spanish),nihao(chinese),konichiwa(japanese) i love you=te quiero(spanish),wo ai ni(chinese),aishiteru(japanese) what's ur name=como es su nombre,Ni jiao shenme mingzi,Anata no namae wa nani ka na Im fine thank you=estou bien gracias,Wo hen hao xiexie ,Imu bakkin wa anata ni kansha my love=mi amor,wo de ai,watashi no ai goodbye=adios(span),zaijian(chin),sayonara(jap.) It gives me a twisted tongue whenever i tried to pronounce the words but it boost me up because i know at little skill grows a bigger knowledge and soon be an expertise....
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
7 Mar 11
I'm impressed! With determination and practice, I'm sure you'll be fluent in no time! Thanks for sharing the words. I tried exposing myself to spanish as well but just didn't have the will to push through.
@tammy27 (1241)
• Philippines
7 Mar 11
im not sure if it's french or what... but Angelina Jolie's accent at The Tourist is sooo great! :)
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
7 Mar 11
I sooo wanted to watch that movie but never got to, for some reason. I can tell though if the accent is French. They speak like they're gagged. No offense. Irish seems to rise in intonation at the end of their statement. Russian or German sounds deep and throaty. I may be wrong. Italian is fond of "z". Which do you think was Angelina's accent?
@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
5 Mar 11
hi theresaaiza oh french was also my bane of existence and spelling was the pitts why do they have so many silent letters, why not leave them out if they are not even pronounced anyway. I a m sure not bilingual although I would love to be. I took French and Spanish in college and Spanish is not as hard as Frenc h. I am a native English speaker so that was no problem but French was so hard for me and now Merci and beaucoup and bonjour are also all I remember.I am not at all sure what beaucoup means anymore. lol
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
5 Mar 11
Salut hatley, nice to have ya. I'm still on the first three lessons of the first chapter of this self-teaching online French tutorial and now I feel like backing out on my plans already! I know! Those silent letters just drive me crazy! Not to mention the way the sounds had to be produced nasally, I just don't suffer from a stiff tongue but an irritated upper palate as well. But French is a lovely language and I am up for the challenge. But for now, I'd sleep on it! Merci beaucoup!
@med889 (5941)
5 Mar 11
I talk English as this is my mother tongue but I had to learn French at school and now I can talk it fluently so I can understand you perfectly while learning French. Hopefully my partner is from France so we can communicate very well now. Then I started learning Hindi as my grand mother is from India, this was really difficult but I manage to talk it now. But now learning Mandarin is causing me a lot of difficulties. I have much problems in pronouncing the words as there are four tones in mandarin and if this is not taken into consideration then we might say something else which can be far from the thing we want to say.
@Theresaaiza (10487)
• Australia
5 Mar 11
Salut, med889! Comment ca va? just practicing! Hope that didn't sound pathetic! Anyway, isn't that cool? You are a multilinguist! I believe knowing other languages really does broaden one's horizons. I really wish I could learn French fast. The nasal tones are such an ordeal, plus the spelling and all those silent letters. And yeah, I understand how hard it must be for you learning Mandarin. But just don't give up.