Should the age for children to leave school increase?

March 22, 2011 8:06pm CST
Hi all. With so many problems in the world today i wonder if a good thing would be for children to stay in school that little bit longer. Here in the United Kingdom children can leave school when they reach 16 years old. I would say that this is about 2 years too early, i feel that there is still so much they could learn, it would keep them off the streets and in less trouble, also they could grow up that little more. At the moment we have so many kids that come out of school at 16 and are just so lazy, they seem to just hang out with friends, stay at home on the pc or console, they have no ambition. Also here where i live we have hardly anything to entertain children so it is no wonder that they are so bored really. If they were to stay in school for a couple of years atleast they could learn a lot more rather than rushing through things, jobs are few and far between and so it is not like they can walk into a job, they would be a more mature person. What do you guys think? If you are from a different country what is the age there, and what do you think of that? Love to hear your thoughts. .
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24 Mar 11
to be honest i dont think an extra 2 years would make any difference to kids these days. because of all the technology around these days kids just want to be playing on that and thats why they have no ambition. at 16 they have the choice to either go to college or get a job. i know its difficult to get a job these days as most companies want experience which alot of kids dont have, so they either go to college or do employment training to get the experience. so i dont think its all down to the kids and the reason they are lazy.
24 Mar 11
Hi titchy1231, I guess in reality it all really depends on the children themselves, i am sure that there are some children out there that would like more school whereas others will be happy to see the end of school and so will want to leave as early as possible. I agree that they could go to either college or get a job but here it seems that many just want to claim benefits, walk along the streets in gangs and this is such a waste of government benefits and a waste to them, a shame they can't be forced to continue with schooling rather than just sitting around doing nothing at all productive. Many things do also come down to money, especially when going to university, it is so hard to get a job, even with grate grades or even with hands on experience, but so many children do need to grow up, things like smoking, drinking and car licence ages should be increased, children are still too young and immature. Thankyou so very much for your response to this topic, much appreciated.
24 Mar 11
Hi titchy1231, I think that if they were forced to stay in school for an extra couple of years then the differences will be those of two different things. 1. If they are to leave later at 18 rather than at 16 then they should be more sensible and also have better grades and be more mature about life so they may at that age want to get a job more than they would at the age of 16 where they still want the fun and to just hang out with friends. 2. If they were to stay in school for an extra couple of years then we would save more money in them being their than we would them being on benefits in them extra 2 years. This may make a big difference when you look at how many children upto the age of 18 claim benefits, this would save our country a lot of money.
24 Mar 11
i think that with the kids you say that just want to claim benefits, what makes them do any different after leaving schook at 18 instead of 16. i dont think it would make any difference at all
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
26 Mar 11
Here..children can leave school with a parent's signature at 16..but..if they drop out...they are not allowed to get a driver's license. If they are failing classes in school..the state here suspends their driving privledges as well. I think it is so important for children to stay in school. You make the same points that people here worry about when children leave school early. There aren't many things here to keep the children busy either. If they are not involved in school sports or clubs, there is nothing. They even banned them here from the mall on the weekend. I thought it was a good and a bad choice. My daughter told me the "new hangout" was a dark and unsupervised park. Needless to say she was forbidden..lol...
@JenInTN (27514)
• United States
26 Mar 11
It's a wonderful topic! My pleasure. I'm not sure the age, but I'm sure there is one, I'll research it and let you know. I had a friend several years ago that had to present a GED to get her license and she was 18 or 19 years old.
26 Mar 11
Hi JenInTN, I like the fact that them dropping out early would stop them from getting a drivers licence, but surely this is only for a certain length of time? I agree that it really is important for children to stay in school, and to actually learn. I do like the fact that in your state they have to do well or would lose their driving privledges, this seems to be a good incentive for them to try hard, especially as many children would love to be able to drive, i wish more places were like your state. I think that in many places there can be nothing for children to do, to ban them from the mall does sound excessive, i guess i could see their reasons but at the end of the day they do have a right to go there, and much safer there than in many other places like the one you mentioned, we always want to make sure that our children are safe. Leaving school early is not a good thing really. Thankyou so very much for your response to this topic.
@sid556 (30960)
• United States
24 Mar 11
Hi Craigy, No...I don't think kids should be allowed to drop out at age 16. I realize that there are parents that give up and kids that give up but it's not ok. Back in the day, a kid could drop out and maybe find a job and do ok and maybe even be successful. The odds of that happening now aee next to nothing. This is a tough question because when I try to answer it, I think of those kids that really hate school and do nothing when they show up but distract. I remember being a kid and hating school. Unfortunatly, my dad was a teacher so dropping out was not an option. As an adult, I could see the benefit of education and I'm glad that it wasn't my choice. I believe that education is important. Also it is nothing if the kid doesn;t see its importance. I had 4 kids. One of my daughters was a kid that just didn't do well in school. by highschool, she was the kid that you did not want in you child's class. she skipped to the point that I had to go to court and and fight a 6000.00 fine. It was a nightmare. I did sign papers to let her drop out under the condition that she went to an alternative school way up in the sticks of nowhere....I just wanted her to have an education. she agreed and I thought, how can she possibly get in trouble up here? It was seriously miles from civilization....oh she managed. she got kicked out of that school and became an official drop out. she is 24 and now regretting her lack of education and working toward a GED.
24 Mar 11
Hi sid556, I think that at the age of 16 is so young, they are so immature really and there is so much more they could lear. It could be argued that if they wanted to further educate themselves then they could go to college or university, but what about those that just want to be lazy and sponge off the government and watse their lives? That is good tax payers money going to waste, many children need to grow up and wake up to reality, only few do. I agree that a lot of parents nowadays do give up, so do the kids. I think that if children do have a choice then many wouldn't want to go to school, there are many there now that can't be bothered and do distract others, there needs to be more fun in the way they are taught, to make things more interesting, yet it is boring. I agree that as an adult we can see the importance of a good education, but by then it could be late, children need to realise this early so that they can make a good life for themselves as they are growing up. A shame as to what happened with your daughter, it shows that now she is an adult she does regret what she did and what she lost out on. In school we do suffer peer pressure, we follow some people and this can effect the way we live our life. I messed around a lot at school and didn't get the best of grades. After school i went to college and really did work my backside off, i also had different part time jobs to give me experience in different fields of work. Now i have plenty of experience and i have great grades behind me, it took a while but so glad i went straight to college and made something of myself. Thankyou so very much for your response to this topic.
@_sketch_ (5742)
• United States
23 Mar 11
In the states, we graduate school at 18. I think that this is a good age. 16 year olds are way to immature to have that much time on their hands. lol.
@jazel_juan (15747)
• Philippines
24 Mar 11
Here in the Philippines, children / teens are in school longer..there is the kindergarten years, that is like 3 years usually kids are from 4 - 6 years old, nursery, kinder 1 and 2..then grade school from grades 1 - 6..they graduate at 12 uears old that age..then another 4 years in high school, so teens who graduate high school are often from 16 to 17 years old..and after that they go to college and it is another 4 to 6 years...new grads here are from 20 to 21 years old. The educational system here is different unlike from your coutry where they can already work after high school, here teens cannot since they will not be qualified for any kind of work / job therefore most does not have any other resort but to go to college.
24 Mar 11
Hi jazel_juan, It seems that the difference between our two countries is really that as you say, here kids can still get jobs when they leave school whereas in your country they can't and so have to continue in further education. Here we have like playschool/nursery from the ages of 2 up3 upwards, then primary school, secondary school, then the children choose what to do. They can leave school not get a job but claim benefits and get money from there, or they could get a job in which may not be well paid as they won't have many grades behind them, then there are the others that go onto college and others that after college go to university. Again even with great grades it does not mean they have a certainty of getting a good job, or even a job as there are few and far between. In a way i guess companies like to have people with less experience as they will not have to pay as much as those that are qualified and have been to college and/or university. Money makes a big difference in this world, it's a shame really but that is life. Thankyou so very much for your rersponse to this topic.
@megamatt (14292)
• United States
28 Mar 11
I really don't think that it will help all that much to be honest with you. Most children who leave school early, at least from around here in the US, don't really want to be there in the first place. They are the kind of people who are going to cause trouble in class, thus disrupting the educational process of those who do want to be there and that can lead to a lot of problems. IF they don't have the maturity to stay in school, then let them go. It is just going to cause them problems in the real world. Then again, most people don't really leave that mentality that they have when they are teenagers. It is very sad, but at the same time, it is really extremely true. It just goes to show you what I have been saying for years. Some people grow up while others just get older.
@patgalca (18181)
• Orangeville, Ontario
23 Mar 11
There was some discussion about not letting kids get their driver's licenses until they graduated high school. It seems this idea fell by the wayside but I have to say it is the number one best way to keep kids in school. This serves a double purpose because sometimes I don't think 16 year olds should be driving. We all learn every day for as long as we live, so saying they still have a lot more to learn isn't the best reasoning. We all have a lot more to learn and we all make mistakes every day, and hopefully learn from them. In today's economy one really needs an education to get a good job in order to support themselves, not to mention a family. But kids don't think that far ahead. They live in the moment, unless they want something badly enough. To drive and own a car is the biggest symbol of independence for a teenager and definitely a motivator to keep them in school. I wish they would re-visit this theory.
@sizzle3000 (3036)
• United States
23 Mar 11
Here you stay in high school till you graduate. You can drop out at 16 with parental consent and you have to graduate by 21 or they kick you out. I think that the age of being in school doesn't help so much as the want to be there. If the child does not want to be there then he/she will find a way to not be there or just won't learn anything. You can't force someone to do something they don't want to do. We need more teachers who care and more parents that encourage school instead of not paying attention to their kid at all.
23 Mar 11
Hi sizzle3000, Where is it that you are? I guess that if you do graduate at 16 then you must have learned all you need to, and would seriously have to of worked hard for this. I do like the fact though that you could continue until 21, gives you a good chance to graduate. There does seem to be many children that don't want to be at school, maybe it is so boring, surely it could be made more interesting? I agree that they could find ways to make sure that they are not there, i mean who can force someone to go somewhere they don't want to? Even if they do go they can't be forced to learn can they?. I agree that we do need more teachers that care, to some it is just a job that they get paid for, to others they love what they do and they do it for love and to help others learn, i also agree that parents can make a difference, i feel that here though many children don't seem to take notice of what their parents say to them, i feel that many children don't have a lot of respect at all, not just for their parents but for adults in general. The attention that children do or don't get from their parents can and possibly does make a difference to the way the children live their lives, we do learn really from our parents, so if they don't care then we may not as kids. Thankyou so very much for your response to this topic.
@Mirsya (520)
• Indonesia
23 Mar 11
I am from Indonesia. Here, children can leave school when they reach 17-18. Usually, they go to university because high school diploma can't give then a job that pays well. Or, if they want to have a special skill without going to the university (because of financial problems), they can enroll to a special high schools which provide special skills for them.
23 Mar 11
Hi mirsya, I like the fact that children can leave at around 17 - 18 years of age, i do feel that 18 is about right, then they can choose whether they want more education or if they want to find a job. Here once they pass 16 they then can go to college and then after that is university. The costs of university is so expensive though which is what does put some people off, ok if you have a rich family that can pay your fees. Great to know that they have special schools which can help them develop new skills which could help them find a job. Thankyou so very much for your response to this topic.
@picjim (3002)
• India
23 Mar 11
Here a person finishes school by 15 or 16.Later he has to do a 2 year bridge course before joining under graduation.Since no one gets employment with this qualification,most are compelled to do under graduation or vocational courses which keep them in some education program till they are 20 or 21.I feel at this age one ought to be reasonably mature.I'm for keeping them longer in the education system but i feel they should get a reasonable job else they will be disappointed with the system.
23 Mar 11
Hi picjim, I think 16 years old is way too young here yet where you are it can be as little as 15?, that is ridiculous really, so very very young. I do like though that they have to do a 2 year bridge course. Great to see that they more than likely have to do the under graduation course as this keeps them in the education system that bit longer. I certainly do agree with you in that by the ages of around 20, 21, they then should be mature enough. I agree that with all that time in education you certainly would expect them to want a decent job out of it, otherwise they will not see the point of staying in education for so long. Thankyou so very much for your response to this topic.
• Philippines
23 Mar 11
I don't know about this. It gets pretty boring already for some kids to stay in school until they're 16, what's more if you make them stay there until 18? When I was in highschool, I couldn't wait until I get to college and, finally, working for my own salary. Yeah, there are so much to learn but don't you think it's up to them to learn it when they're already outside the school? After all, not everything can be learned inside the school.
23 Mar 11
Hi frontvisions101, Many children do get bored easily, especially when in their teens, there is not much around for them but it is better to have an education than to be walking around the streets or playing on the pc or consoles, etc. If they stay there until they are 18 they will be a more mature person, they could get better grades, this could lead to more knowledge and better jobs, it keeps them out of claiming benefits to sit on their backsides all day. I agree that not everything can be learned inside school, you can still learn outside of school, like hands on experience of a job, or learn as life just carries on. However there are many kids that just leave school and sit on their backsides doing nothing, not wanting to work, atleast they may want to work should they get better grades, or want college if they get better grades. All children are different. Thankyou so very much for your response to this topic.
• United States
23 Mar 11
I also agree. But I think schools should find out more on what kids enjoy, you know? Like for example, that 11 year old kid that made that popular bubble game app. It`s now on itouch marketplace. See? That kid enjoys making apps. He found what he love. If we can find out what a kid wants to do, he`ll stay in school and actually WANT to learn more in school. My 2 cents.
23 Mar 11
Hi, jefferyallen, I think that if children did stay in school a bit longer then they could be better educated, it keeps them off the streets or just sat at home all day, plus if they have more time at school they would have the time to have a bit of fun at school and make things more interesting so they grab their pupils attention, rather than the children wanting to fall asleep. I agree that if we can reach the levels and understand what children want then this could help them stay there longer, but kids like fun so we would need to entertain them by showing them different things that keeps there attention. Thankyou so very much for your response to this topic.