Should people convicted of a crime get government assistance?

@bobmnu (8160)
United States
August 16, 2011 12:14am CST
This issue came up in England where there are people rioting and looting. now it seems that a number of them have been identified as receiving government assistance similar to Welfare in the US. The question now is should they lose their benefits and be forced(if they want money) to get a job? It seems this is being debated in England and most people favor cutting off the aid. What should be required of people receiving welfare? Should they have: Pass a drug test? Work even if it is a make work project? Provide an accounting of how the money was spent? Make sure their children attend school on a regular basis? Live a life free of crime (misdemeanors and traffic violations on a case by case basis)?
4 responses
• United States
28 Aug 11
Bob, you know my opinion on welfare here in the US, and I stand by it. Welfare for the poor isn't even a tenth of corporate welfare. If you want to may the poor jump through all of these hoops, than you should also have the CEO's of corporations do the same thing. Both welfare programs involve tax payer dollars going to certain groups, and I agree that if you don't meet these criteria than you shouldn't get money. Of course on the corporate level you would have to add certain parts, like NOT sending any money overseas. NOT hiding your income in foreign corporations thus committing tax evasion. If you were to enact these laws, you would see corporate tax rates go up dramatically, and the government bring in much larger amounts of money, thus paying down out national debt.
@bobmnu (8160)
• United States
30 Aug 11
I agree that we need to do away with corporate welfare and all the strings tied to the welfare. Business should survive on it business model and the goods and services they sell. Close the loopholes and reduce the tax rate. If our tax is competitive with other countries companies will keep their money here where it is somewhat safer.
• United States
2 Sep 11
Bob, I really don't think we have to be competitive in tax rates, I think that we need to install Mirror Trading/Taxing into all of our trade agreements. This way everything is even for all parties involved.
@lampar (7597)
• United States
19 Aug 11
They should be classified as violent criminals, what they deserve is spend a long time in federal prison and pay for their own lodging, living expenses like food, drink clothing etc.. Unless of cousce if UK law makers are sympathetic of them, then they will continue to receive state assistance and welfare so that they can spend most of their time torching cars and looting shops or even hang around the street doing nothing and harassing passer by.
@andy77e (5165)
• United States
31 Dec 11
Well first, they need to end government assistance to start with. But yeah, I think being convicted of anything, should automagically disqualify you from ANY form of social benefit. And NO.... ABSOLUTELY NOT. Making sure they attend school? Look... If a person is not interested in getting an education, forcing them to go to school will do nothing, but mildly educate an idiot. Educating a convict, simply makes smarter thieves. If anything, if they are convicted, they should be disqualified from getting an education unless they themselves are paying for it.
• United States
26 Nov 11
I have grown up in a small town and I know of a lot of people sapping off of tax payers. I also know people who have used welfare until they found a job. My dad had custody of my sister, brother and I and had to use welfare for a short time. I know more people who abuse welfare, than actually use it for what it was meant for. The only things that you listed that I don't fully agree should be required for welfare, are accounting for everything that was spent and I think cancelling help because of a speeding ticket or something similar is a bit much. I don't know about where you are, but the cops where I am from find any tiny reason to hand out tickets. I can understand if someone is driving wrecklessly, but everyone can get slightly distracted and end up speeding a little. Also, if someone makes mistakes and ends up in prison, but wants to start over and need a little help at first, I think most people deserve a second chance to change their ways. So as long as it is case by case and those two things factor in, I agree. As for the accounting for spent money, I would agree it would be a good idea to make sure that they are paying their rent and electricity, but I don't know about everything that is purchased. Other than those considerations, I am in full agreement with you! :)