Police Brutality

@daeckardt (6245)
United States
September 30, 2011 11:32pm CST
I had been directed to the following links because of things happening in NY that shouldn't be happening. I am really disturbed to know that people are being mistreated for no apparent reason. I don't know if anyone else has posted about this, but when I did a search nothing came up. How can police in this country get away with the abuse that was captured in these videos? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zgr3DiqWYCI&sns=fb (not a referral link)
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6 responses
• United States
1 Oct 11
This is insane. I have watched just portion of the video and I saw police beating people, grabbing a man and slamming his head into a parked car, grabbing a woman and dragging her across the pavement, and pepper spraying a woman for no reason. What for? Because they were doing nothing wrong. This is a perfect example of how police can do whatever they want and get away with it. They should all lose their jobs and serve time in jail for the assaults. Police brutality is a big issue and it makes me sick. This is why I hate the law, they beat people and slam them to the ground even though they did nothing wrong. They think "They have cameras so lets beat them senseless". It's not right and I think the people who were attacked should file a lawsuit against each officer that attacked them and the whole Police Department. If this ever happened to me then I would give them a reason to arrest me. These people deserve justice but it will not be served because the law always has the upper hand and they can get away with it.
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@daeckardt (6245)
• United States
1 Oct 11
I think that is why it was sent to me. It is time to wake up and be aware of what is happening in this country. I don't know that I would go there myself, but if the opportunity arose for me to get involved, I might do something. I think nonviolence is the answer and if I got arrested for an action that didn't involve violence on my part, I would make it known to anyone who would listen and I think that would make a louder statement than fighting back against such actions.
@daeckardt (6245)
• United States
1 Oct 11
I think you are right about that. When individuals document incidents against them in videos that is different from the media going in and recording the same incidents. I wish the media as it currently exists would cease to exist. I seldom look at the news because of how they present things. Most of the time, I find out about world events either from friends/family or through this site. Unfortunately, I don't know a way to wake up the general public about what is going on unless it is put out in the media since there are so many people who don't have the internet and so the only things they hear is what they hear from the media. Have a great weekend!!!
• United States
2 Oct 11
daeckardt- You're right it's time to wake up and realize that the police are corrupt and they don't care about our safety. They care about themselves and getting paid. I'm an Anarchist and I'm against the government. I believe that if enough people stand up against the law then something will be done. I hate the law with a passion. More people should be record this brutality and send it to the media to show them what is happening to us. It's not right and if we don't stand up and fight then no one will. arealkool- I think we should use our brains as well. We should think about a way to go about this and reveal the government for what they really are, a bunch of selfish people that don't give a c rap about the American people. You're right, We need good people in our government to go in and record these acts of violence against people who have done nothing wrong. I would love to see something done about this but I know it probably wont happen due to the government just don't care about us.
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1 Oct 11
I have only one question: where's the proof? One reporter says "the police attacked" and everyone's anti-police? Oh, please. How do you know they were doing nothing wrong? How do you know what was happening? Why was the camera-holder being jostled SO badly by the people (those lovely, gentle, peaceful demonstrators) around him/her? I'm afraid I simply don't trust any journalist or reporter who states "Police investigations of this kind are always a sham, designed from the start to the finish to defend the police conduct". No proof, just hyperbole designed to scare and outrage. Modern journalism is such complete crap. There are always two sides to a story: that was just one and it was designed to be shocking. The truth? Not available.
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@daeckardt (6245)
• United States
1 Oct 11
I did some research myself and found more information on the "Occupy Wallstreet" situation where this brutality incident occurred. That is at: http://www.adbusters.org/campaigns/occupywallstreet some other items I found were at: http://www.truthdig.com/report/item/the_best_among_us_20110929/ http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-wall-street-protest-20110930,0,6859500.story When I see an article or video, I do ask questions like that. When I get them sent by someone who knows more than I do, I don't ask as many questions. Some of the pictures in that article were from individuals involved with the protest and just passed on by the media.
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2 Oct 11
There's nothing much in those articles, since they're on the "movement" as a whole. The key phrase, I think, is in the truthdig one - "civil disobedience". They know they're doing the wrong thing by law and paint the police as the bad guys - when they're there to protect *everyone*, not just the protesters who feel they're in the right. The movement as a whole has no actual purpose or message except "occupy Wall Street". That's kinda pointless. It just sums up as a bunch of people who don't like greed being deliberately disobedient to the rules of their society in the hopes of achieving... what? Personally, I hate greed and money and corruption. But there are better ways to do it, better ways to change the rules. Obviously, things can get out of hand. Obviously, it could be police brutality. Obviously, it could equally be a complete idiot who gets pushy with the police, gets frantic and does something stupid. Just look at the recent looting in the UK: that achieved nothing because it also had no point and was just disobedience. A simple, quiet thing got out of hand. It happens. One police officer feels threatened and sprays pepper spray. Would you rather they got injured doing their job of protecting society? Hard choices. Daft movement. Everyone's human. Unfortunately, modern "journalism" is based entirely on sensationalism so there's no way to get the truth. Perhaps they should occupy the news offices instead.
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@daeckardt (6245)
• United States
2 Oct 11
I obviously can't say anything that will change your mind and that is fine. You are entitled to your opinion. I do have one question for you. What is your better way to change the rules? I would really like to know so I can do something about it. As far as I can tell, we are powerless against the corporate powers and they control the government. I choose not to follow the news because of the sensationalism of the media, but there are times that things go too far. I really don't understand all of this, but I do know that the video on youtube that another responder posted shows the same kind of thing happening just because people were dancing in a public monument. whether it is happening on Wall Street or the Washington Monument or any other public place, why would people gathering peacefully cause the police to start acting like that?
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@1hopefulman (31587)
• Canada
2 Oct 11
My stomach is sick from watching this kind of conduct from those that are supposed to serve and protect us.
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@daeckardt (6245)
• United States
3 Oct 11
I'm glad you agree. I have heard that they have arrested more people after directing them onto the Brooklyn bridge yesterday even though they had planned to go on the pedestrian bridge. I didn't hear about any brutality, but the fact that they think they can get away with doing that makes me sick. What is this country coming to???
@1hopefulman (31587)
• Canada
3 Oct 11
There is injustice and corruption everywhere. Man can never build a just society where everyone is treated fairly. There will always be abuses as long as man rules. Some do a better job than others but still as we can see even in the good old USA there is much abuse. It was like that in the past and so it continues. Proverbs 29:2 King James Version (KJV) 2When the righteous are in authority, the people rejoice: but when the wicked beareth rule, the people mourn. Ecclesiastes 8:9 King James Version (KJV) 9All this have I seen, and applied my heart unto every work that is done under the sun: there is a time wherein one man ruleth over another to his own hurt. One would think that we would have licked the problem of proper rulership by now but every events show that abuses of authority continue.
• Philippines
2 Oct 11
There are a lot of police brutality not only in your place but here also that's why I don't trust them personally....I don't know but I always have this feeling that they can't be trusted anymore. I know it's sad to hear but I'm really afraid of them in a way.
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@daeckardt (6245)
• United States
2 Oct 11
I think you are right about them not being trusted any more. I find it is on a case-by-case basis though. Some of the officers really do care about people and others are just on a power trip. The few bad apples out there make them all look bad. If the police force were to be more culturally sensitive, perhaps there would be less problems in the world. Thanks for the response!
@bunnybon7 (37157)
• Holiday, Florida
1 Oct 11
i was just talking with my daughter about that last night. the police here in Phoenix get away with everything like that also. if you read up on Joe Arpaio you will see that him and his cronies think they are God and get away with everything. our sheriff is likely the most famous in america for mistreating people
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@daeckardt (6245)
• United States
1 Oct 11
It is really sad when citizens allow these incidents to go unpunished. I think it is time for everyone to do something, preferably in a non-violent fashion. No need for us to use their tactics and make this to be an ongoing problem.
@ferbjohn69 (1129)
• Philippines
1 Oct 11
This is terrible.The people who should be serving and helping people are those who are showing violence.If the people who are supposed to do good are violating human rights are bad,what world will this be?
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@daeckardt (6245)
• United States
1 Oct 11
There was one example in there of an officer who was under control and just treating people with respect. Why can't all of them be like that? It seems like there are a few bad apples who make the whole department (or the profession in general) look bad. If they could get rid of the few, it might be better for the many...and the population they are supposed to be serving.