Herman Cain's Biggest Mistake Yet??

@mehale (2200)
United States
October 6, 2011 7:30am CST
According to CNN, Herman Cain stated in an interview with the Wall Street Journal that, quote: "Don't blame Wall Street," Cain said. "Don't blame the big banks. If you don't have a job and you're not rich, blame yourself." That's right, these words came out of Mr. Cain's mouth! Considering the state of the economy, and the extremely high number of unemployed citizens in America right now, this was unbelievably cold and callous for a GOP candidate to say during a primary season, or really any time. This would seem to be an even bigger mistake than even Perry's Immigration slip up, Romneycare, or even the false statements that Bachmann is still making regularly. Perhaps as Palin had said, Cain really IS just the flavor of the week! I wonder if he will be able to hold his better standings of late in the polls after saying this. I had been very interested and slightly supportive of him up until now, but saying this and seeing how many people in our area are struggling to meet their bills and responsibilities, and are honestly looking for jobs that are simply not there, I am not so sure about him now. His statement shows a cold hearted Cain that I had not yet seen. Good ideas on some things or not, we don't need a President that thinks everything is the people's own fault, certainly not now. So what do you think, will this mistake come back to haunt him in the future? What effect, if any do you think it will have on his chances of getting the GOP nod for the nomination? If you supported him, will you be able to still support him even after he has made this comment? Here is the link to the full article on CNN: http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2011/10/05/cain-not-rich-no-job-blame-yourself/ What do you think about it?
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
6 Oct 11
Hm, so I wonder, if you aren't rich, is it the banks fault? I actually agree with Mr Cain's comment. This is what America was built on, self sufficiency, self reliance, self respect. Do you see the common denominator? There are countless stories of people with but a dime to their name, working hard and becoming rich. This is why there is such a back log to come to America. Contrary to what most people seem to think, it is not for the food stamps.
@mehale (2200)
• United States
6 Oct 11
While I do see your point, I also don't think it is too fair to say that the unemployed and poor people are to blame for the poor job market. People are getting laid off on almost a daily basis, and they are not to blame for the employer simply not being able to afford to keep them. They are not to blame for the fact that there are simply not enough jobs to go around either. I agree that if you do try and work hard, it is possible to succeed, but first you have to find a job so that you CAN work hard. Many people are struggling to meet their families needs without Government help, but it is not easy when you can't find a steady job. Take our area, for instance, we live in a farming based area and it has been so dry that there simply are not enough jobs for everyone because there is nothing to do. Not just for the farmers and field hands, but for the tractor dealers, shops, gins, truck drivers, crop dusters, everything you can think of. I suppose it is our fault that we did not get the rain and the crops failed...... Sorry, not trying to start a fight, just to make a point.
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@laglen (19759)
• United States
6 Oct 11
Oh dear, I dont see this as a fight, simply a debate of sorts. I guess I took his comment not as blaming people for the job market but simply for their selves. I work a minimum wage job. I get three shifts a week. Now, this is the job I choose to keep. In addition, I cook and cater. The job I am in (bartender in a vets club) I am able to cook and sell my food which has led to catering jobs and a whole lot more money. I took responsibility for myself and am finding a way to not only survive but to also save money. I am now working on making soup and spice mixes to sell across the country. Think big or go home! In times of economic crisis, it is a matter of survival of the fittest. Find what you do well and do it your self. Don't count on somebody else to write you a check every week. I increase my business by getting out there and letting people try my food. The start up money? Non existent. I work in a place with a certified kitchen, and sell to our customers. My start up was equal to what it would cost you to make a pot of soup. I get 5 bucks for every bread bowl of soup. My cost is about 2 bucks. I now have three businesses that I deliver to, plus my regular customers and customers of other bars now come in for lunch, I also am providing a high school football concession stand with burritos. I am starting to hit craft shows with my mixes and am hitting the internet in addition to writing 6 cook books. Think it through, anybody with the ability to cook could do this.
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@mehale (2200)
• United States
6 Oct 11
Good for you! I have thought many times about trying to put a cookbook together with some of my recipes that my family love, I guess my own lack of confidence and fear have stopped me!
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@mensab (4200)
• Philippines
6 Oct 11
well, that statement makes sense if the economy is growing, and unemployment is low. the thing is that the economy is in recession and people are out of jobs, no matter how hard people look and search for jobs. the opportunities that were once there are gone. the statement is really insensitive. he sounds detached from the struggles of his people.
@mehale (2200)
• United States
6 Oct 11
That is the way I took it too. I suppose that the ones that are not even trying are the group he was talking to, but still it did sound rather cold....especially if you are trying but there are simply no jobs where you are.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
6 Oct 11
If I were American, I would not vote for him, but that is even though he is good, it would start a trend that the only candidates who could be president would be blacks since America is still judged on a racist standard. It would not be because he said that he did not blame Wall Street or the big banks. To put it, he said the world does not owe you a living. And if one is a failure at getting a certain job, or following a certain path to employment, he can try another. Yes even writing when one cannot get out of the house, looking after children, digging ditches, etc. In other words, America was brought up on a system of self-reliance. The thing is that if you are capable of working outside the home, that is if your work is not home based or if you do not have a workshop or an office in the home where you either write or do things like being a cook , keep house do repairs for others for barter etc. and other things you should get out and try to get a job. You should not sit on your duff and say poor me. And then make sure you have a budget so if the time comes, you can upgrade your skills and get a better job.
@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
6 Oct 11
I get that, :why aren't you working?" but then housework is work and also writing or cooking in the home os work. I think he was not talking about you and me, but about those who do not do anything, and just, as we used to say back in the 50s, sitting on your backseat, watching tv, and eating bon bons. If you are making money even writing online, you are working. The trouble is that some people think the only work that counts is one where you get out and get in your car, walk, or bus and then go to an office, factory, etc.
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@suspenseful (40193)
• Canada
7 Oct 11
He is probably made at those who thought the world owed them a living, like those who figured that the rich could hand them money while they sit on their duffs. I could use another word, but probably should not.
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@mehale (2200)
• United States
6 Oct 11
So true, and there are just as many out there that are simply sitting back letting the welfare and unemployment checks roll in without actually trying. I have to admit that if you figure he was talking to those, then the comment does make sense.
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@anniepa (27955)
• United States
7 Oct 11
I hate to say this, but that cold-heartedness seems to be a requirement for entrance into the GOP elite these days. It wasn't always this way, but it's easy to see even from some of the myLot posts in this interest. The right has the oh-so-simplistic view that anyone who wants to become super-successful and super-rich in America can do just that. Don't we all wish that were true and that there were equal opportunities for all? I think now, more than any time in our history, it's definitely NOT true there are jobs for everyone who wants them if they're willing to do them. I think this, as well as some of his other recent statements such as the one about being gay being a choice, definitely WILL come back to haunt him. Maybe the farthest right, most socially conservative and coldest members of the Republican base will actually embrace these remarks but there are just so many of those votes to go around and he's not the only one vying for them. He'll need at least some support from the more "mainstream" segment of the party to get the nomination and I doubt he'll be able to come close now. Annie
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@Taskr36 (13963)
• United States
6 Oct 11
Politically, it may be a mistake, but that's because he's not a run of the mill politician. Look at who he is and where he came from. He grew up in a poor, black family, and became a millionaire through hard work and hard earned success. To a man like him, there really is no excuse, because he overcame the adversity that so many use an excuse for their own failures. He succeeded through the recession of the late 70's early 80's and that was worse than the one we are in now although this one MIGHT eclipse it. So he's overcome a poor upbringing, being black in a time when that was more of an obstacle than it is now, and a recession worse than what we have now in a job market where job hunting literally meant pounding the pavement instead of browsing the internet. Aside from that, I agree with him. We all have a shot at being rich in this country. We all choose our lots in life. I'm not rich, and I probably never will be. That's not simply my fault, it's my choice. I'm a librarian. I chose a career that I knew wouldn't be likely to make me rich. Teachers make that choice too. So do many other occupations. I could have went to law school, medical school, business school etc. I could have stayed with one of my early employers and worked my way up in the company. Even the pud flipping burgers at McDonald's has the opportunity to work his way up into management, corporate management, etc. He's not my chosen candidate, but this statement doesn't turn me against him. It's just the hard to hear truth of the situation. Also I doubt ANY of those protesters were fired by anyone on Wall Street. They just want to blame people who succeed for their own personal failures.
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@skysuccess (8858)
• Singapore
7 Oct 11
mehale, I am sure what he is saying does hold some truth to a certain quarter of the population who are living beyond their means or writing cheques their bodies can't cash or been frivolous with their hard earned monies/wealth. For a start, I am sure you will agree that a large majority of graduates are graduating with a load of financial burdens starting with paying back on their student loans. However, I would have to be with you that America do not need him as a President when he could be so insensitive to the circumstances leading to the current economic crisis which the whole world know how it all started. For one, the monetary authorities who failed to put a stop on financial institutions' high risk non secured loan programs that eventually blew up on everybody's face. The so called financial gurus to ever conceive a backbone breaking idea(s) that led to this catastrophe where investors' portfolios lost billions, businesses shutting down, people loosing their jobs and eventually homes overnight. I am just disappointed and shocked how fast he could just forget the blatantly committed mistakes of his peers to make such a generalized statement.
@dlr297 (5409)
• United States
11 Oct 11
Cain is right it is not wall streets fault that people do not have Jobs....... It is the American Peoples fault.... Let me try to make my point. I'm a 56 year old woman that up until a few years ago was living the American Dream. We raised 8 Children and lived very Comfortably not rich by any means but we did not go without anything that we wanted. I like many of us did not pay very much attention to anything but my own life, and being happy. Today with no jobs, all our savings gone. The home we owned gone..boat gone..motorcycle gone...no Vacations anymore......Husband doing odd jobs now just to get us buy each month. not knowing if we are going to have a place to live next month. is this wall streets fault is it the big banks fault.......NO its My fault and every other American that did not pay any attention to what was going on with our Government. I did not speak out or start worrying when the Government was starting to regulate businesses, and we started losing our jobs to other countries. My husband Built Houses and was self employed It did not affect me so i did not pay any attention. You Call Cain cold Hearted in his statement, but he is right. and the truth hurts...all these people that are looking for work need to look to themselves, like i have and put the blame where it is due.....with yourself for not paying close attention to the people that we elect to represent us in Washington. They work for Us..not the other way around. I think that Mr Cain is very Honorable for speaking his mind, and putting the blame where it belongs. He is just the kind of Person that we need to represent us, and I also believe that he would make a Great President. He will make some mistakes along the way but so would any other candidate.