you blame a wrong person, sir

@adhyz82 (36290)
Indonesia
January 31, 2012 6:28am CST
what do you think if your boss blame you for the mistake which you never make it?? what you should do for it?/ what is your reason for defending your self?? or you only say to your boss that he blame a wrong person? or what?
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@topffer (27768)
• France
31 Jan 12
If the mistake was not mine, I would try to prove it without involving somebody else. It is why it can also be a boss strategy. As an executive, I have several times blamed voluntarily the wrong person. It is difficult to fire somebody not doing correctly his job in my country, and it can be useless to blame him, but blaming a friend gives often good results on the diligence of the guilty one, who takes more care of his friends remarks -- "I don't want to be blamed at your place !" -- than of his boss remarks.
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@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 12
i lost my mood for clarifying..because i know it`s useless if the one input or information had been accepted, it`s hard for getting another source information
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@topffer (27768)
• France
31 Jan 12
It depends of the personality of your boss, but it is important to justify yourself if he is really convinced that you are guilty. Think at the best way to do it quickly.
@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 12
maybe topffer.. thanks for any suggestion for me..i really appreciate it
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@bounce58 (17550)
• Canada
16 Feb 12
I think that if you don't stand up for yourself, then people would always walk all over you. Even if it's your boss, you should still get your voice out and let him know that it isn't your fault. You may refrain from telling him who's fault it really is, but you should make it clear that it isn't yours. I think he/she would even appreciate it that you stand up for yourself.
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@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
17 Feb 12
thats right even we are employer, we are human too if the boss is good,of course they respect the employer rights too
• Indonesia
31 Jan 12
i more agree with first response. even we do right thing, but remember, boss always right. just patience, if we still need that job. and remember, don't blame other for anything, be brave.
@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 12
yes maybe..but i dont know with my situation henki...i don`t know
• Indonesia
31 Jan 12
well,that is life. you not do some mistake but your bos will angry you for other mistake. i always get it. but i never give up.
@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 12
maybe henki.. i try for doing a good not because iam afraid of boss ..but i know my function but now with the situation,iam speechless
@JER616 (551)
• Philippines
31 Jan 12
Here are two of the unwritten rules in the workplace: Rule 1: The boss is always right. Rule 2: If the boss is not right, refer to rule 1.
@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 12
like the slogan when iam entering my campus rule 1 : senior is always right rule 2 : if the senior is not right, back to the rule 1..
@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 12
like the slogan when iam entering my campus rule 1 : senior is always right rule 2 : if the senior is not right, back to the rule 1..
@MissPiggy (1751)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 12
Lol. Those are silly. :D No one is right all the time. Even boss is also a human being. :D
@Mashnn (4505)
1 Feb 12
If I find that my boss is blaming me for something that I have not done, I wioould stand with what is I know is right and prove my point no matter what and leave to him to either continue holding me responsible or not.
@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
1 Feb 12
maybe if the situation can`t be changed after you say your position, what will you do??
@Mashnn (4505)
5 Feb 12
I won't do anything and wait for my bossed to decide on what to do.
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@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
5 Feb 12
so when your boss , this is your last day in your office, what would you like to do?? only accept what he said??
@MissPiggy (1751)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 12
First, I'm so glad to have my manager now. He always tries to be a fair leader. I prefer to call him "leader", not "boss". He always knows how to talk to his employees. To me, he's just perfect. Well, this "perfect" doesn't mean that he's always right. In fact, we can always tell him that he's wrong, but we must have the correct reason. Somehow, not all of my friends dare to tell him everything. While me, I usually say it right through to him. Whenever he's wrong, I'd tell him. But, I won't tell him in front of other staff. If he accuses me of doing something wrong in front if other staff (usually he does this in management meeting), I usually wait until I have the time alone with him, and give my argument. So far, he can always accept my argument. He's ever told one of my trusted friend that he likes talking to me because I'm smart. Heheheheh... (I got a big head) :D But he can also be cruel to me when I'm lazy. Lol. I don't blame him for that. :D
@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 12
i dont know it irene..iam speechless but i don`t want to defending my position if he think iam wrong,let it be i just want to sing a The beatles song, Yesterday
@MissPiggy (1751)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 12
Why are you speechless? And by the way, if you have a nice leader (or maybe boss), he would understand if you defend yourself. One note, as long as you're right, there's nothing wrong in defending ourselves. And I'm Miss Piggy. Lol.
@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 12
yes, you are MissPiggy..sorry..btw, what is the meaning of Miss Piggy?? i think iam standing in the right of path for this case i can prove that iam right but it`s useless even iam right
• Philippines
1 Feb 12
i had been this predicament and it does hurt a lot. first off i gave my opinion that the project will doom to crush down the toilet... did they listen NO! i fought hard for them to listen... all they said was the boss is always right he is the boss in the first place. so there is nothing i can do but execute the orders... and like what i warned them it did doomed and went down to the toilet...in the end they blame me for all of it. so i quit!
@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
1 Feb 12
thats the consequence if we are not boss and had no a strategic position our opinion sometimes never will be heard by our boss
• Philippines
3 Feb 12
yeah it's really hard... they think your less of a person... i know that i am not... i know i am better than my boss... wiser and more intelligent... the thing is she just can't handle the facts that somebody is actually better that her... but if somebody is better than me and give me scenario A and B... then i grab them. i know it will save all our butts in the end... but the team leader/ project manager can't... then point the finger to me after everything. i can't tell the big bosses for she is the one that makes the reports and not us. heart breaking! so i quite that job!
@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
3 Feb 12
i see. so where do you work now??
• United States
31 Jan 12
I guess that it would depend upon what I was being blamed for, whether or not I knew who the guilty party was, whether or not I could prove that I was innocent without implicating someone else, and how I felt about the guilty party. The answers to these questions would more or less determine how I would react. I would probably try to prove my innocence without implicating someone else if possible ... unless the other person really deserved to be in trouble, that is.
@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 12
the problem is if i convince or defending my position, of course i must attack somebody else for proving that iam clear and no guilty thats the problem i don`t want to attack someone even she or he (i dont know which person report me) attack me first time
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• United States
31 Jan 12
That is a difficult position to be put in. I can understand not wanting to implicate someone else, especially if you do not know whether or not they attacked you first. It would be much better if you could somehow manage to prove your innocence without having to attack someone else and implicate them as the guilty party.
@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 12
yes..of course its impossible maybe i know who the person report me but i dont want to continue this problem let make she or he is happy with this decision maybe
@ASHUDEEP (1774)
• India
31 Jan 12
hi friend first of all i will not say anything to boss at present time and not admit my mistake and then try to gather evidences to prove that behind this mistake their is not my hand and then i hopes that boss know the truth and boss will say sorry because he make wrong blame on me.
@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 12
maybe.. i dont need my boss say sorry.. i respect him and i don`t want he lost respect because say sorry for me maybe the better i would go
@ASHUDEEP (1774)
• India
31 Jan 12
ok friend if you does not want that your boss feel sorry so do not worry try to remain happy because of that at least your boss realize his mistake and got his confidence back on you.
@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
31 Jan 12
get my confidence for me?? i don`t know.. in my opinion is only finishing my workload this semester only that..i dont think for getting back my boss confidence anymore maybe
@atleya (947)
• Indonesia
15 Feb 12
For me, "NO". I can not accept if I do not make mistake but someone, including my boss blame me. That's not fair, I think. We should clarify the truth matter. However., if really I made mistake, so I will ask for apology. I will admit my fault. That's my attitude.
@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
15 Feb 12
thats my attitude too if i make mistake for my boss, i will ask apology sometimes there are another power who want to make you down in the office and in the eyes of our boss and the boss only hear one voice and never ask our comments..what a pity if you are in under that situation
@Heixyin (177)
• Malaysia
5 Feb 12
That would depend on my mood actually. Though, that would be stupid. The right thing would be explaining the truth to the boss. Well, for me, there are times that I would just let it slip by. I'll just show a bored or poker face when being scold by him. Indirectly pissing him off. Cruel ain't I? Digging my own grave in a way. Sometimes I'd feel that it's not worth it telling him, a waste of time and energy, I'd say. Haha! So yea, that's me. Consider employing me if you meet me next time xD
@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
5 Feb 12
wow.. so do you think your boss will hear you guys?/
• Mexico
5 Feb 12
Hi adhyz: We are talking about my boss so it's better not to discuss to much with him/ her. I would try to make him/ her noticed that he/ she is about to make a big mistake but if he/ she is feeling too angry to hear me I let it pass and later when we could be in a more peaceful situation I would try to explain my boss what has really happened. ALVARO
@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
5 Feb 12
yes maybe i`ll wait until the cool time but i had no passion anymore star..
@megamatt (14333)
• United States
1 Feb 12
Yeah that is frustrating, but that is just something that is going to happen a lot. There are just some bosses who are going to find the most convenient scapegoat right out there. Even if what they are blaming you for was their idea in the first place. That is just one of those rules of some work places. If something goes right, then obviously it was because of great leadership skills. If something goes wrong, it is your fault. Funnily enough, bosses will have their favorites, but often time they will put the blame on anyone but themselves. When what happened can boil down to the absolute poorest leadership skills imaginable. There are just going to be a lot of times where you just have to sit back and take it, even if you know it is their fault, their dumb idea, but obviously it would be unwise to say that.
@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
1 Feb 12
maybe megamat i do hope someday, the truth will be opened
@lekhya (821)
• India
1 Feb 12
I feel there is no use in discussing...because "a boss is always a boss",he will never agree with u,EVEN IF HE KNOWS THAT "U ARE RIGHT".He wont.Most of them are egoistic and can never hurt their ego.Trying to defend your self,is a mere waste of time.Its better to be silent and prove yourself when you get the opportunity.Someday or the other he will get to know the reality.
@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
1 Feb 12
yes..thats right maybe i just need a time and can prove which one is right and which one is not right..
@eljayo (1109)
• Philippines
1 Feb 12
Hi! That's sad. I think if I am in this position I will definitely defend myself and find proof that will prove my innocence. Some people just blame anybody when they do not know the real situation.
@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
1 Feb 12
yes of course i can use it for defending for my self but the situation maybe can`t be better if i explain it..
• Indonesia
1 Feb 12
Step 1. Try to defend ourselves. Of course give a good and strong argument. Just to make sure that we are right. Step 2. If the boss willing to understand, case closed. (Usually people would say 'no', so straight on Step 3). Step 3. How much you can endure such kind of boss? If you can, then stay. If not, then find another workplace. That's it. :) I've once had a big argue with my boss and my HR Manager. In the end, i stood on my argument. And I left. And i'm happy with my current workplace now. :)
@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
1 Feb 12
step 1, i did not done now..the situation is unsure and i dont think this is the right time for clarifying of course i dont know the result for step 2 and step 3..
@airasheila (5461)
• Philippines
1 Feb 12
hi there adhyz82, wow, its kind a bulls-eye to me when i have read your topic. that i remember before my situation on my previous company. that my boss always yelling on me although i am not the reason why a mistake was committed. hence, i guess, it is a part of my job, to be an absorber of a bad situation. thus, during those times, i am not doing anything except after office hours, i just look at the sky and praying, that God will talk to my boss and tell him, not to do it again to me.
@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
1 Feb 12
iam sorry if the discussion remind your bad experience in your past.. iam really sorry yeah, now i just search some clue for my problem maybe
@JenInTN (27568)
• United States
1 Feb 12
If it were me, I would explain that there was a mistake made and that I wasn't the one he was looking for. I wouldn't point fingers or try to go out of my way to defend myself..I would just state it very plainly.
@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
1 Feb 12
maybe...but i don`t think it was helps me..
• Indonesia
1 Feb 12
Classic question. I ve been into quarrel with my boss several time regarding to the topic you mentioned above. For me, i will look at the situation when to be frank or just accept the angriness. We need to have strategy in dealing with this topic.
@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
1 Feb 12
thats right...sometimes we always had quarrel with our boss so when you had quarrel with your boss,had you ever think for go away from your office??
• Marikina, Philippines
1 Feb 12
The world is very unfair but we have to accept it no matter what happen. Okay... this is what I learn from my trainor. The boss always accuse our trainor during his days, he just stay calm and he did not have any against with his boss even if he did not do anything wrong -- he would speak in a nice way so that the boss would understand him. Be obedient and even if the boss would not believe you, at the end -- the boss would say sorry to you because they realize that they commit a mistake and they feel guilty about it. This is the experience of our trainor when I was still taking a course in 'hotel restaurant management' -- based on his experience, the boss put him in the higher rank postion because of what he did from the past. I think that is the ultimate secret.
@adhyz82 (36290)
• Indonesia
1 Feb 12
good story i do hope it can inspire me yes, now iam quiet and seems do nothing for defending my position