Women punished for having families

United States
February 4, 2012 10:39am CST
http://abcnews.go.com/Business/confusion-pregnancy-discrimination-leads-growing-concern-workers-advocates/story?id=15500607 I've had something very similar happen to me when I had my first child. It's very heartbreaking you love your job, your family, but because you are having a child they give you the boot. I've heard this happening to many women over the years. I find it really sad that FMLA laws will not protect most Women whom experience this just as the law could not protect me. Same on these companies that continue to treat their female employess in this manner.
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• United States
4 Feb 12
It is really unjust that this happens to women in the work force. I think it really is against the law in some states for employers to discriminate like that. After all, just because women are the ones who bear children should not be a reason to be terminated or have their seniority and their job threatened. I remember going to work for a company in NY. The application asked if I was pregnant. If I was pregnant I wouldn't have been hired. In fact, there were some jobs that wouldn't hire women of child bearing age because they considered them high risk of getting pregnant and missing time at work. Their rationale was that it costs them money to replace a person who is out during pregnancy. Yet, men who get women pregnant aren't discriminated against at all because they don't get pregnant.
• United States
4 Feb 12
It does happen too often. It should be against the law in every state. True it does cost money to replace the person who is out on leave. But this is not the old world or a 3rd world nation where Women work in fields birth the baby and get back to work when their done. Of course men don't get discriminated against between not being the one to actually bare the child but that they only take a few days or so off rather than 6-8 weeks off. And if you have a c-section I think 8 weeks is too soon, depending on the person of course.
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• United States
5 Feb 12
I remember the hospital I worked at, if you were pregnant and took a leave of absence .. their policy was that you could have your job back if it was available, but they didn't fire you and you weren't considered quit... you would be put back to work doing something, but not necessarily the job you had. I never really understood it, because people didn't think it was fair that they didn't get their old position back. Like.. one nurse worked labor and delivery... she had the baby and took her leave.. when she came back she had to take night shift in the nursing home part of the hospital because that was all that was available.. she worked day shift before. It would seem to me that it should have been the fill in person to get shifted and let the former nurse take back her job, but that isn't the way it worked. She finally did get her old position back, but that was when the other nurse left.
@marianne87 (3526)
4 Feb 12
I didn't lose my job when I was pregnant because I'd been there for a year already when I fell pregnant. But I did have a disciplinary hearing because I took too much time off with morning sickness! It wasn't like I was pretending to be ill. My manager even came to the toilets one day and knocked on the door while I was throwing up, to ask how long I would be, because I was needed on the shop floor... I was also forced to take early maternity leave for this reason. I would never work for that company again. When my paid leave was finished I quit my job to stay home with my baby.
• United States
4 Feb 12
That's rough when you are constantly ill with morning sickness. Atleast they knew you were not making it up. They hoped I was going to stay home that's why they replaced me though I had every intentions of returning. I just closed on our house right as we found out I was expecting and the house needed alot of work and still does. Though I only made it about a year after my daughter was born before they gave me the boot.
4 Feb 12
That's a tough situation, to be honest: it's not as simple as it sounds. She's been with the company for four months and wants three months' paid leave: I can see why they'd be a bit put out about that. I can also see why they'd be annoyed even if she took the time off unpaid: they'd have to find someone to stand in for three months, with all the associated training costs and everything, then take her back again and let the other person go - losing all the time and effort invested. As I understand it, FMLA would cover her if she'd been there a year. That makes more sense from the business point of view: she's proved permanence by being there 12 months, has grown into the job and the 3-month maternity gap won't hit them so hard because they know they'll have an expert coming back. There's a really vague paragraph in that article, too, that says "When her attorney contacted the company about the allegations of discrimination, she said they granted her leave to have her baby, born in January." Does that mean she's been granted it or not? Who's "she"? Bad writing, there. I once worked with a guy who'd started his job and, on the FIRST day, gone down with glandular fever. He was out for six months. Would you expect the company to pay him sick pay and keep his job for him or to replace him with someone? Surprisingly, they did. The thing I find strange is that, after 4 months there, she wants 3 months off. She MUST have known she was pregnant when she started. They would have noticed, for goodness' sake. Something must have been said at that point. Why is she suddenly complaining now? There's no detail on that in the article. Personally, if I'd been at a company for 16 weeks and asked for 12 weeks off for health reasons, I'd expect to be replaced. That's just my opinion but I seriously wouldn't expect ANY company to hold my job for me for that long when I hadn't even been there a year.
4 Feb 12
In fact, now I think of it, I've actually been fired from two job for health absences: I was in each for two or three months and was sick for the following three months with back problems. They both went through all the usual disciplinary stuff because they were afraid I'd kick up a fuss like that but, as I've said, I knew they were doing what was best for their business, it was nothing personal and they were treating me respectfully: I wasn't going to throw a tantrum when they were being perfectly reasonable.
• United States
8 Feb 12
i've actually had potential employers ask me "if i planned to have/do i have" children at interviews(which is probably illegal)because obviously they don't want to deal with parental problems/call outs..it kind of stunned me at the time they'd ask something like that.
@anne25penn (3310)
• Philippines
5 Feb 12
I used to do payroll for a big American company a few years back and aside from the confusing tax laws, one thing that really shocked me was that being pregnant was considered as a disability in FMLA terms. I said what?! Disability? It's not like you had an arm or leg cut out. You're just having a baby as every woman has since the beginning of time. I am happy that in my country, most women are given job security and even financial assistance when they become pregnant and give birth. Here, our Social Security system gives a maternity benefit and you get to receive your salary (base pay) for 60 or 90 days depending if you gave birth normal or via caesarean section. Even fathers here have a paternity leave that is good for seven days once their wives give birth. It seems that the American Labor code, no matter how advanced or developed the country is, is very backwards and chauvinist. It's like a big statement to women, just go home and take care of your children. Don't bother coming back because you already have a husband and child. Your focus should be with these. Women have been known to juggle both home and family at the same time. It's just sad.
@blue65packer (11835)
• United States
5 Feb 12
That is a bunch of bullsh*t! No woman should put up with that crap! That is discrimination for sure! FMLA laws need to protect all woman who are having a child and in the work force! Maybe after this story more woman will come forword and be able to keep their jobs after they have a baby!