Robinson's Galleria Ortigas Ave/Manila -early crime incident :(

Philippines
March 29, 2012 12:03am CST
This is very alarming how bad people are attacking malls where a lot of innocent people can be harmed. Up to this writing, it is said that 5 people were injured during the incident that happens early this morning 10am Philippine time Thursday March 29,2012. This kind of crime usually due to bank robbery. Do you think it is time to close all bank branches inside mall premises? As far as mall incidents, these crime mostly involves bank robbery. Here's the link ph.news.yahoo.com/people-hurt-in-robinson-s-galleria-blast-and-shootout.html
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@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
29 Mar 12
crime rate is very alarming. it does not happen only in the philippines but everywhere. it does not happen only in manila but everywhere in the country. that's why being a parent, i always feel scared for my kids when they go out or they go out and stay late at night. besides, even in your own house, crime could happen.
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• Philippines
29 Mar 12
hi neildc, I agree that crime happens everywhere even inside our very home it could really happen. There is no more safe place after-all. Thanks and have a good day :)
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• Philippines
29 Mar 12
THat's because of our poverty, people tend to do these things to survive. we only have to be vigilant and careful because you never if you're being targetted
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@neildc (17254)
• Lapu-Lapu City, Philippines
29 Mar 12
that's true LK, people tend to do things like robbery to be able to survive from poverty. but we wish, they only get people's money but not their lives. there are not just once that reported incident of robbery also include homicide which is very sad and makes us all scared to happen to us or to our loved ones.
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@SIMPLYD (80400)
• Philippines
29 Mar 12
Grabe! Bank robbers are now so courageous. How could those robbers passed by the guards of the mall without them seeing their weapons? It's scary indeed that these bank robbers can just rob a bank at the earliest part of the day.
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• Philippines
29 Mar 12
hi SIMPLYD, As in, that early. I can imagine if those grenades successfully blast. Robinson's always packed with people renewing NBI clearance as early as 3am, plus the shoppers, bystanders and mall employees. These people only craves for money in evil manner. :( Thanks and have a good day :)
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@wittynet (4131)
• Philippines
29 Mar 12
Hello, SIMPLYD and angelgee14! I'm always in Robinson's Galleria twice or thrice a week. My favorite place is the basement because the Massage Center is there. I also pass by every Sunday because I attend mass at the church near the mall. This is what I always notice. If people will enter the mall through the exit door of National Bookstore, they'll not be checked by the guard. This guard is assigned only in the bookstore. I always wonder why he's not checking people who enter the bookstore through its exit and why they allow people to enter using the exit door. I am now wondering if robbers know about this and if they took advantage of this.
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• Philippines
29 Mar 12
Is it? Then that looks very suspicious
@shylade (3137)
• Philippines
29 Mar 12
oh my gosh! what a terrible news. i really wonder how these people can sleep after doing such crime. i think banks should not be removed but just put in a place that is more secured and away from part of the mall with so many people.
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• Philippines
29 Mar 12
hi there shylade, I believed it is time for bank branches to evacuate mall, due to this incidents as we know very well that malls are always packed with people/shoppers. Bank should be placed in a place where people are not too crowded to avoid innocent people being harmed when there is robbery. thanks and have a good day :)
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• Philippines
30 Mar 12
I frequented that area when I was working there in Manila. We're situated near that location, in the 15th floor of Galleria Corporate Center, and my Malaysian employer used to assign me some tasks of exchanging his dollar with Philippine money, right in that Sanry's money exchange service. This news really shocked me! I think, instead of evacuating the banks from the malls, what they should do is tighten more the mall's security. They were too lax with their security. In fact, I learned from a security guard from there that those metal detectors that they were using were just props, no batteries, and were just for display. Now, look at what had happened to them?
• Philippines
30 Mar 12
wow, it is true "those detectors are just props" . Now, if this is true, how can we trust our security while spending our money at certain establishment/s that cannot guarantee our safety
• Philippines
29 Mar 12
Hello Angel,that's basically why I don't usually go out anymore. there's obviously a large syndicate behind this. not to mention, in past robberies, which involves former cops or military officials, people should be more careful bringing their money and belongings on public stalls or recreation areas.
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@wittynet (4131)
• Philippines
29 Mar 12
I don't know why I never got shocked. Robinson's Galleria is my favorite. I'm always there twice or thrice a week. Well, maybe because I never witnessed the incident. They said it happened at the basement, my favorite place in Robinson's.
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• Philippines
29 Mar 12
@ wiitynet, Yes, maybe because you're not there. The nearest mall here in our place where I use to shop and have my weekly groceries also faced same situation where two guards were killed and injured civilians. I was not there when it happens, I feel sad but was never shocked too, it did not even stopped me from doing my shopping and grocery routines. Still we must take care always.
@wittynet (4131)
• Philippines
30 Mar 12
Yes. We should be always extra careful and attentive because we don't know when we'll encounter this kind of disaster. We should be always ready, and we should not always expect that life is perfect in this world full of bad people.
@jjzone44 (917)
• United States
29 Mar 12
That is a tragic and unfortunate incident, but taking banks out of malls is not the answer. I see from the story these actors used grenades in the commission of the crime, so obviously they had no regard for life, or at least a lower regard for life than they had for money. There will always be people like this; criminals who care about no one but themselves, and that is a sad fact. But removing a convenience for the general public just to eliminate one avenue for the criminal will do only that, eliminate the avenue. A criminal will still find a way to commit crimes, they will just change where they commit the crime, and any crime involving people always puts innocents at risk. There are probably stores in the mall that use the bank in the mall for their banking needs, rather than have someone take the money out of the mall to another bank. The robbers entered the mall before it opened, because they knew a money delivery was to take place. If the bank was not there, they could simply observe when employees were taking money to other banks to make drops, and target them. Simply put, if you eliminate one source of income for a robber they won't stop robbing, they will just find another source.
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• Philippines
29 Mar 12
hi jjzone, Bad people indeed only think about themselves. I know there are benefits having bank branches inside malls, but this incidents are too alarming.Malls are always crowded and we can imagine how many lives are always in danger. Yes we cannot predict when and where killers/robbers attack but these kind of mall crime/incident started when bank/s put up their branches inside malls. Thanks and have a good day :)
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@Unah08 (671)
• Philippines
29 Mar 12
I think it is a drastic response to close all banks that is located inside the mall. I get your point but these banks are really very helpful and much accessible to most people cause they have longer banking hours and convenient. But we can't also deny the fact that due to the unselfish act of those who want to do harm in order to gain money the easy way affects the lives of the innocent people. In the past crimes such as this is done discreetly but now the "bad guys" are also targeting locations that are crowded such as malls and other public places. What I suggest is to deepen the security and protection of such establishments. I just wish that the stricter implementation of actions during mall hours such as the inspection of bags and not allowing weapons in the premises is not only implemented when the incident was done already.
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• Philippines
29 Mar 12
hi Unah, I don't think either that mall owners will withdraw all bank branches inside the mall/s. It's business but they should take proper care of their customers as well. I know it is much convenient for many people since malls are one of the favorite hang-outs and we can do some transaction and shop as well. Let's hope they will provide more security- that's for their business sake also. Customers are their market target, so they should and must provide enough security for everyone. Thanks and have a good day :)
• Philippines
31 Mar 12
Instead of closing all the banks inside the mall. I believe they should ask PNP to put an outpost near banks to lessen the crime rate plus increase the security within the vicinity.
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• Philippines
2 Apr 12
Posting some military men might be a great help and having a permanent outpost is even better
@Lhenni (1246)
• Philippines
29 Mar 12
Late last year, Robinson's Dasmarinas here in Cavite was also in the same scenario. "A bank teller and his two security escorts were killed by five armed men who carted away a bag containing P5 million cash during a robbery on the ground floor of a mall in Dasmarinas City, Cavite". http://www.interaksyon.com/article/16182/teller-2-others-killed-in-cavite-bank-robbery Very alarmimg, knowing that it's located inside the mall which happen to be a very busy place and believing that it's a safe one too. Well, seeing securities in every door of the mall and they indeed inspects incomming carriage. Whoah! How did it happened by the way?! It's either, the inspection was not religiously applied or it's an inside job! Well, there's no safe place to think about *sigh! Even in our very own home...
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@wittynet (4131)
• Philippines
29 Mar 12
Not all guards do their job well. I can assure you that I'm sure the guard in National Bookstore at the exit door don't check people coming in.
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• Philippines
29 Mar 12
hi Lhenni, These malls having bank branches inside should add more security for the welfare of innocent people. There's a good advantage having banks inside malls, but this is also caused crimes like this. Malls intended for shopping, family bonding yet there's no sufficient security, so sad and so bad then. Let's hope malls owners will take proper action regarding this matter, or else they will lost their customers. Thanks and have a good day :)
@wittynet (4131)
• Philippines
30 Mar 12
Yes. There are other malls, so people who already have phobia will no longer go to their mall. They should do something to win back the people's trust.
@lady1993 (18707)
• Philippines
29 Mar 12
I just heard about this a few hours ago..It is really scary, the suspects attacking inside a mall and they even killed someone. I hope the police catches them, they even injured lots more people and stole the money of others..
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• Philippines
29 Mar 12
hi lady, That's the problem because malls are always crowded with people and these kind of crime will surely harm more people whereas if those banks are not inside malls,victims will be minimal then. These robbers will not spare even kids for sure. I hope mall owners should take proper action regarding these incidents..this is not the first time and let's hope nothing follows. Thanks and have a good day :)
@yahnee (1250)
• Philippines
29 Mar 12
The same crime happened last year at a branch of Robinson in Dasmarinas Cavite. A money changer shop was held up at midday and one of the employees was shot. The mall became very strict with security as an aftermath of the crime. A friend of mine happened to be at the scene when the exchange of gunfire happened between the guards and the criminals. Fortunately the business establishment she was in at that time kept them inside and closed the doors so that no one will get hurt. it is very alarming when holdups occur even in the morning with lots of innocent people who can get hurt. However, closing the banks inside the malls is not very convenient for us. It is only in the malls where we can transact business with the banks eve on Saturdays. I guess we just have to be always on the alert.
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• Philippines
29 Mar 12
hi yahnee, I know that closing bank branches inside malls is impossible. Not even the mall owners will withdraw those bank branches,that's business. However, it is a must that should provide sufficient security for their customers or else they will also lose their market (the customers). Thanks and have a good day :)
• Philippines
29 Mar 12
Now a days anywhere you go there are a lot of incidents happening around us and one of them is the robbery incident in Robinsons Galleria this morning,as days goes by people are thinking if they/we are safe when we travel or go everywhere for our own security and for the sake of our lives we are not sure that everyday is ok or at peace so we must be alert and let us pray for our everyday lives
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• Philippines
29 Mar 12
hi ghidz, Crimes and accidents do happen everywhere and yes I agree that we can never say when and where it would strike. We should take care and pray for guidance, the best weapon. Thanks and have a good day :)
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@ckciasigurl (1570)
• Vienna, Austria
29 Mar 12
hi angelagee! omg what is happening now a days , its my first time to here crime like this , i think that it is okay if they will not close a bank inside the mall they just need to add more police and more security guards and to have a strict facility because honestly it is really difficult to let other people be hurt especially if they just go there just to shopping and to be happy being with there family and love ones.
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• Philippines
29 Mar 12
hi ckciasigurl, That's the sad part when innocent people are harmed.Yes, imagine those innocent shopper,kids in particular being hurt due to these crimes. Malls are for shoppers, family bonding and what else, hence these criminals never bother to disturb the place due to evil things and crave for money. :xxx Thanks and have a good day :)
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@wittynet (4131)
• Philippines
29 Mar 12
Hello, angelgee14! As far as I know, it's not bank, it's a money changer. The name of the money changer was mentioned in the flash report this morning. I was posting here when the hosts of the program in TV 5 announced that there's a flash report about a robbery in Galleria. I think the name of the money changer is SANRAY. I'm not that sure, but it does sound like Sanray.
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• Philippines
29 Mar 12
hi wittynet, Yes, it's not a bank but a money changer but the money comes a bank I guess PS Bank. Just like what the other mylotter wrote, same incident happen in their place, a bank robbery inside the mall. This also happens here in our area where two guards were killed and few civilians were injured. This robbery inside malls only begins when banks put-up their branches inside mall premises,as we know banks are mostly the target of big robbery syndicate. Thanks and have a good day :)
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@wittynet (4131)
• Philippines
29 Mar 12
I'm sure it's in the news again tomorrow. I'll not miss it anymore. I want to know exactly what happened because I'm always going to this mall twice or thrice a week. Though there are incidents like this, I still prefer doing bank transactions inside the mall. Yes. I feel it's safer.
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• Philippines
29 Mar 12
Do take care :)
@chiyosan (30075)
• Philippines
30 Mar 12
i heard the news and well it was shocking and knowing about this, there is no safe place! imagine these people would do such a daylight robbery and they even shot and killed one guard. i think though that there may be someone from the bank or the money changer that tipped someone from the robber's side, because they knew the time of the money drop off. i hope though that it is not correct.
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• Philippines
31 Mar 12
Most of the robbery cases are inside Jobs. I remember what happened in Citibank Makati long time ago when the robbers came at the exact moment where the bank was extracting the cash out of the armored van. I believe that they are responsible in both incidents.
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• Philippines
2 Apr 12
Well, we should not wonder about it as we can see how fully armed those robbers are, not to mention the accuracy of their movements- well trained compared to security guards.
• Philippines
31 Mar 12
Ok.Now I'll be practicing extra caution.It's good that I never encountered such incident that I'm always safe.
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• Philippines
2 Apr 12
hi kat, That's one thing we must do, listen and be aware of what is happening around us. Thanks and have a good day :)
@rsa101 (13887)
• Quezon City, Philippines
30 Mar 12
It created shivers through me when I first heard about it since I usually pass by the store when I get back from work to home. I think that it was not a bank they robbed but a currency exchange store. I really do not think that banks should be removed from this establishment since this robbers will take advantage of anything inside the store they see and feel that is left unsecured. I think that the mall should tighten their security measures instead since I have observed in my daily entrance to the store that the guards have become lax in inspecting the bags of the people entering the mall. I think this was the opportunity that the robbers saw when they decided to attack and robbed them. It is not the banks that caused them this since if the robbers did not saw this opportunity they would not try to enter the vicinity at the middle of the day.
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• Philippines
2 Apr 12
hi rsa, I also use to stopped there and hang out with team mates after shift usually when it's our day -off.Let's hope there will be changes and security will be more stricter this time. Thanks and have a good day :)
• Philippines
30 Mar 12
hi angelgee, This is really sad Having a bank inside a mall is really convenient but if it will just lead to a crime like this well it is better to move out or they should have a maximum protection inside the mall. happy mylotting
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• Philippines
30 Mar 12
hi bhabycatch, I am sure they will double the security by this time, the question is until when.Later it will be back to zero again duh! Thanks and have a good day :)