Would you tell someone you think they were making a mistake?
By 911Ricki
@911Ricki (13588)
Canada
September 30, 2012 4:43pm CST
My SIL is really in a dream world, she expects to find a job making $15 an hour. She giled paperwork for the government so instead of getting unemployment (she still has yet to find a job), they pay for her to take a short useles course.
Now many would say stop being so mean, well she wants to take Personal Support Worker, this course is 5 months with the program. I went to a wellknown certified college for this program. I use to work as a PSW in a seniors home and many took the program she wants.
I know she wont like it, nor the rude ignorent people. Most people who take this program lets say mooch off the government once the government says get off welfare they take these courses and a job for a few months then back on welfare.
In the 3 homes I worked in, it never changed the type of people. She will be making minimum wage as well nothing more. You will be treated like dirt, from both management, coworkers and residents.
I had one old guy scream at me then hit me with his cane. I know if I say anything everyone will say how jealous I am (clearly as even with a college certificate I would rather work in fast food).
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7 responses
@GardenGerty (157813)
• United States
30 Sep 12
Do not tell her "You are making a mistake" but rather just share what your experiences were and the pay range you found. She may just be taking this course to have something done, and to satisfy the government expectations for re training. There are websites that show what you can expect for a certain job in a certain area. Maybe there are certain government homes that have a subsidized rate.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Sep 12
hi gardengerty here in California 15 an hour is not good wages really with rents on 2bedrooms atg 1200 to start., my son was making 30 an hour as computer programmer until the small company went broke now to have a job he works as electronic re pair
in a company repairing exercise machines lik e the first job he had,. but he told me he was damned glad to get it Mom.
training in electronics can lead to really top jobs here.
@GardenGerty (157813)
• United States
30 Sep 12
Electronics is a well paid field. Her sil is wanting to become a care giver like the ones at Gold Crest. Everywhere I have worked that position it has been well below $15 an hour. My nephew is interviewing Monday for a computer programming job, he has been going to DeVry university and I hope he gets it. It is not what he wants to do, as he wants to program games, but he would love to have it, to start having a life and paying his bills.
@911Ricki (13588)
• Canada
30 Sep 12
I'm not saying its not possible to make $15 hour, but not simple by putting her feet up. She use to work in a company in Toronto, high end well known company. She wont get thaat again, the only reason she got that was becaue her Mother got in, but the company down sized as the economy. But she thinks by taking this training, and getting a job in the field it will be as simple as her last job, and the same pay.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
30 Sep 12
Hi ricki 15 dollars an hour is not high wages here, my son an experienced computer programmer was making 30 when he was laid off and was out of work for ages and now doing electronic repair he is only making 15 dollars an hour.wow personal support worker sounds awful and as you say she will not like it ,even
going to a hospital and working as a nurses aide is much more
pleasant than the personal support thing.tell her to look elsewhere for a better paying job.can she type and answer phones. a go
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job is receptionist in a good company.
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job is receptionist in a good company.1 person likes this
@GardenGerty (157813)
• United States
1 Oct 12
Our minimum wage is $7.25. I would be glad for your minimum. I do what you are describing, personal support, for the adult disabled. Usually mental and physical disability. I am fortunate that the clients I work with do not require a lot of care other than meals and meds they all walk okay, or I do have one that falls sometimes. I do not have an opportunity, at this time, for full time work, so that stinks as far as income goes.
@911Ricki (13588)
• Canada
30 Sep 12
$15 here is way too much unless you go some high end corprete job. My Dad made $40 an hour rebuilding trans mission. But in this economy everything is downsizing, which is why both my SIL and Dad are out of work they were making too much and the company couldnt pay them. I'm use to working minimum wage $10.25 an hour jobs, so my standards arnt high like hers. I dont think she would like the job, its a lot of back breaking labour (which she;s never had to do), and minimum wage.
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@jrkirsch75 (72)
• United States
1 Oct 12
I agree. $10.25 for minimum. Will never see that in my area. Even the more training jobs pay only around $8.50. So, would definitely wouldn't scoff at that. But this economy, anything would be acceptable, it is tough to find any kind of job, let alone getting all picky about it.
@sedel1027 (17846)
• Cupertino, California
1 Oct 12
I would let her make her own mistake. If you have told her in the past how miserable your job was, let her find out on her own. From what you have written it sounds like she could benefit from a few hard knocks :)
@winterose (39887)
• Canada
2 Oct 12
You cannot tell her she won't get a job, and you cannot tell her she won't like it that is playing God. But you can tell her what your experiences have been and tell her to really think about it before signing up.
@dorannmwin (36392)
• United States
2 Oct 12
I would tell someone when I think that they are making a mistake, but most of the time they will really not listen to what I have to say. With that said, I don't think that taking a course to work in that field is a mistake if you have the right kind of personality. This is something that I did for a while and it was a job that I loved. I didn't make a lot of money, but my heart was really in my job. Working in this field is something that is great for a person with the right temperment, but it is not good for someone that doesn't want to put their heart into their job.
@jrkirsch75 (72)
• United States
30 Sep 12
Explain to her, that the field she is looking at isn't going to be an easy road and will actually be a lot more like minimum wage.
You have to be gentle, otherwise she'll think you are being petty and condescending. Explain the types of classes she'll want to take if she wants to make $15/hr. The types of jobs that are available currently for that type of pay and what the requirements are in order to get them. She's expecting the easy road of barely any work with riches for pay. It doesn't work like that. Her best option is to look for something that she enjoys doing. Looking and then working at something that you enjoy, means better chances of advancement and also better choices.
I wouldn't exactly tell her that she is making a mistake. I would explain that it is the correct way and that she can find the right way and fix the little hiccup in her plan. But unless you want the family to be at odds, I wouldn't say a mistake, at least not to her face.
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@Porcospino (31366)
• Denmark
30 Sep 12
In your situation I would tell her about my own experience, but I wouldn't tell her that I thought that she was making a mistake. You can tell her about your experience and you can give her advice based on that, but ultimately she is the one who makes the decision. Sometimes it is not enough to hear about other people's experiences and we have to try things on our own. If she hears about your experience and says "but I want to do it anyway" I don't think that you should try to talk her about of it. Let her discover on her own that isn't a dreamjob if she is still determined to try.
