Where's the Outrage Liberals?

@debrakcarey (19924)
United States
January 19, 2013 5:07pm CST
NEWSWEEK DECLARES TOMORROW'S FESTIVITIES ARE THE SECOND COMING....CHRIS ROCK HAS SAID OBAMA IS OUR LORD AND SAVIOR. Both HIGHLY offensive to Bible believing Christians. But....Obama declared: ‘The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam’ Full Quote from UN Speech: The future must not belong to those who slander the prophet of Islam. Yet to be credible, those who condemn that slander must also condemn the hate we see when the image of Jesus Christ is desecrated, churches are destroyed, or the Holocaust is denied. Let us condemn incitement against Sufi Muslims, and Shiite pilgrims. It is time to heed the words of Gandhi: “Intolerance is itself a form of violence and an obstacle to the growth of a true democratic spirit.” Together, we must work towards a world where we are strengthened by our differences, and not defined by them. That is what America embodies, and that is the vision we will support. So all you who LOVE to bash right wing radio hosts or Fox News....where's your outrage at Chris Rock and Newsweek?
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10 responses
• United States
20 Jan 13
Newsweek's and Chris Rock's comments constitute neither desecration of the image of Jesus Christ, the destruction of churches, nor the denial of the Holocaust.
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@debrakcarey (19924)
• United States
20 Jan 13
Oh grand pubah, so glad you corrected me about MY beliefs.
@debrakcarey (19924)
• United States
20 Jan 13
“Intolerance is itself a form of violence and an obstacle to the growth of a true democratic spirit.”
@matersfish (6311)
• United States
20 Jan 13
Does that mean that anyone having a different lord and savior than Christians is offensive to Christians? Rock is a bit of a tool. He stopped being funny shortly after he started.
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20 Jan 13
Stopped? That would imply he once was....
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@debrakcarey (19924)
• United States
20 Jan 13
I hadn't thought of that, in effect, he was saying Pres. Obama was his lord and savior, wasn't he? According to the scriptures I read daily, the title Lord and Savior belong to Jesus Christ. What other religions HAVE a lord and savior? I'll have to go look it up. I know Hindus call Krishna lord....but not sure about savior. It would be interesting to know if any other religions who may use those terms for their prophets or gods are offended as well by Obama being called lord and savior.
• United States
21 Jan 13
"Lord and savior" are relative terms. That those words put together to a Christian mean one specific deity is not the fault of anyone else who finds another object to be their lord and savior. Or messiah. Or redeemer. Or anointed (ironically, a lot of folks love this term for a slam against Obama). Or any of the other hundreds of monikers or aphorisms Christians have chosen to put to Jesus over the years. That Christians coin terms doesn't give them license over meaning. Lord and savior are words which still mean lord and savior. If you want them to only mean Jesus and then take offense to everyone who claims that their lord and savior isn't Jesus, that's certainly your right. But language isn't owned.
@iuliuxd (4453)
• Romania
20 Jan 13
Come on, this is the freedom of speech, it may be offensive for some but it is more important to understand it is their right to say it than to put a fist in everyone`s mouth. What Christians should do is to fight for their right to the same freedom of speech. Btw don`t you have better things to do in the US ? It looks like every day someone is offended by something. At least the christian communities should understand that this is the way the politics want to control your thinking.
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@debrakcarey (19924)
• United States
20 Jan 13
OK, I guess I did not make myself clearly understood. Can you take a look at my response to Aida above for clarification? thanks
@iuliuxd (4453)
• Romania
20 Jan 13
I understood, you didn`t got offended but you wanted to ask where are those who get offended by christians, i wanted to tell that to Aida too a little earlier.Still here is the problem with the christians in the US ( and probably one day all over the world ). Don`t bring examples where other people are saying something against christian beliefs, fight for your right to speak free instead. And if someone tells you that you are bigot or racist or intolerant then to hell with them. Why do you care if a fool thinks you are that way ? Tolerance itself is a very bad idea someone is promoting, it means we have the power but we tolerate the others. Btw i`ve seen Obama saying today "so help me God". Which means he is a christian according with what some people are keep saying ( that whenever God is mentioned, that is the christian God ). Aren`t people "offended " already because he said that ? I mean where is the "separation between church and state " ?
@debrakcarey (19924)
• United States
20 Jan 13
I agree, and believe me...I catch a lot of flak for speaking my mind and expressing my beliefs. I've thought a lot lately about the attitude of some of the progressive left; that they are assuming everyone should accept their worldview. And they can be oh so tolerant of some, but not of the conservative Christian worldview. Like I said up above, I almost feel sorry for them, not only can they be very closed minded, they miss so much by refusing to look at other views.
@AidaLily (1450)
• United States
20 Jan 13
Now I am not completely liberal or completely conservative but... Why the hell would I care about anything Newsweek or Chris Rock says? I mean on this site are there people 'religiously' quoting this stuff and taking it as the truth with no other explanations or thoughts of their own? Are they closing out all other arguments in the name of whatever they are worshiping or what? If not, then I have nothing more to say. And just to make sure it wasn't just me, I asked my friend and his brother as I am the phone with them at this very second. They are bible believing Christians and his brother is a hardcore republican (mind you a republican that wouldn't believe Fox News if you paid him but still...), I asked them what they thought about this and they just said meh whatever. To elaborate a bit more, the republican who we will call Bob as to protect his name and he thinks its cool... anyway.. he said he doesn't care and isn't offended by this. We are even making jokes about it. My friend is just laughing and says it doesn't offend him either. His faith isn't going to change just because of a comedian and some paper. He did tell me to ask why YOU seem so offended. According to him it doesn't make any sense to be unless you think Chris Rock is a prophet secretly, Newsweek is the bible, and Obama is Jesus. He is 34 and said you should learn to take some things with a grain of salt.
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@debrakcarey (19924)
• United States
20 Jan 13
Aida, what my point was, if I were to post a discussion on something that was deamed insulting to the prophet Mohammed, (which I have) I'd be called intolerant, perhaps racist too. (I've had that experience) I didn't mention it in the OP, but a poorly made 14 minute video on youtube was the reason given by the White House for the attack on Ambassador Stevens and three other Americans in Benghazi, Libya. I'm sure you remember that, right? The president's remarks posted in my discussion were in response to that video. (we now know it wasn't the cause of the murders, but oh well) The world was in an uproar for a week or so due to that 'insult' to Muslims. The Muslim Brotherhood demanded we arrest and the maker of that video and turn him over to them for punishment. (they kill those who insult Mohammed btw) My point was poorly made I admit, but what I was attempting to point out is that Christians and their beliefs are made fun of, denegrated, and used flipantly by a large portion of Americans. IF TOLERANCE and respect are demanded for Muslims and their beliefs...by OUR PRESIDENT and the left, why is it that they do not speak as firmly about respecting ALL beliefs and against ALL intolerance. Muslims (and Obama speaking on their behalf) expect and demand respect for their prophet, going so far as to behead and stone and crucify those who do not give it. WHAT do Christians, Hindus and pagans for that matter do against those who insult their beliefs? NOTHING. What does that tell you about Muslims? Personally, the offense to me is minor. I feel sorry for those responsible actually.
@Rollo1 (16689)
• Boston, Massachusetts
20 Jan 13
I think the most concerning, outrageous aspect of these comments are the hero-worship for a president, to the point that journalists like Evan Thomas are declaring this president to be "sort of God" and equal with a religious experience. That is not how we should view politicians of any color or in any position. We the people should view them as humans, who must be held accountable to the people. You can't hold a prophet or a messiah accountable and that's dangerous. Yes it is outrageous, because these people worshiping the man are violating the basic premise behind our political system.
@debrakcarey (19924)
• United States
20 Jan 13
Which is even more hypocritical of the progressive left, who for the most part cannot abide mixing religion and politics. I thought of this when posting, thanks for bringing it up.
@cupkitties (7175)
• United States
20 Jan 13
You sure you don't mean Jamie Foxx? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4GNkeAnJpfQ I've looked all over and can't find any information about Chris Rock making such a statement. The problem is people not seeing the meaning behind them. When he said "Our" I think he is referring to the black race. A lot of black people do look up to him. When he says" Lord and savior" I think that was wrong wording on his part. I don't believe he meant it in the sense of Obama being a God or anything of the sort. Maybe he should have left our the Lord part or used "Hero" instead.
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@debrakcarey (19924)
• United States
20 Jan 13
Yeah, I explained up above that I posted this in a hurry when I was tired. It was Jamie Fox. What if he'd of made the same sort of mistake and said something insulting to Muslims? Or would he be more careful to not offend them? Mind you, I feel more sorry for him than I am offended by him or Newsweek. I just don't care for the hypocrisy. The left is ever so careful not to offend unless it comes to Christians or conservatives and especially if the conservative Christian happens to be black, then the gloves are off and anything goes.
@crossbones27 (19579)
• Redlands, California
20 Jan 13
I am not outraged because I do not believe in a Prophet. Plus I know Chris Rock is a borderline comedian meaning he likes to push peoples buttons to get max effect out of his jokes.
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@debrakcarey (19924)
• United States
20 Jan 13
What about ME calling HIM a racist name here? Would YOU be offended at that? OR what if I said ALL muslims were terrorists, or the Prophet Mohammed was a paedophile or another insulting name? I can almost bet you'd call me a racist/intolerant if I did any of that. Fact is, BILLIONS of the world's citizens believe in Jesus Christ. Fact is, we are told not to insult blacks and Muslims and if someone does anyway, they are condemned as an intolerant racist for the most part. Fact is, Christian's beliefs should be respected same as Muslims. But they're not. I respect a person who is honest. I find it hypocritical to insist that society expects tolerance from ME, yet find it acceptable to disrespect me (for my color or beliefs).
@CODYMAC (1357)
• San Diego, California
20 Jan 13
Obama is a closet muslim, rock is a racist idiot, and evolution is just insane. Have you ever heard of circular reasoning??? That is evolution.
@debrakcarey (19924)
• United States
20 Jan 13
CODY, good to see you! I left the evolution argument alone. I guess you said it all, and I agree!
@CODYMAC (1357)
• San Diego, California
21 Jan 13
http://youtu.be/Z3UL5YEgTGg He is a great science teacher.
• United States
21 Jan 13
Kent Hovind has been debunked more than the JFK conspiracy. He's a nice guy, I'm sure, with a lot of faith. But "his" teachings are just his father's, which are thoroughly debunked.
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• United States
24 Jan 13
I ignore Chris Rock because he mindlessly flaps his gums and doesn't care about what other people think of him anyway. If he'd called Obama Allah, there would be much more of a fuss. The problem with what he says (aside from the blatant blasphemy part) is that he puts his trust in a human being, humans will always let you down. We got what we deserved this election, now we're gonna have to suck it up and deal with it.
@debrakcarey (19924)
• United States
27 Jan 13
YOU got my meaning. Hurray!! btw, in case you missed it, I made a mistake, it was Jamie Foxx who called him lord and savior. BUT, Chris Rock is a bigot in the worst sort of way as well. He uses his money, his fame and his blackness to ridicule those whom he doesn't agree with and gets away with being a bigot cause he's liberal and rich. Same with Jamie Foxx and other race baiters. IMHO, Martin Luther King Jr. the greatest man of the 20th century sacrificed much so that they both could have what they have, fame, money, acceptance, power. And they disrespect his words everytime they open their mouths.
@dlr297 (5387)
• United States
20 Jan 13
All i can say is that Evil is not going to come out and say anything against Evil...
@debrakcarey (19924)
• United States
20 Jan 13
hhhmmm.... You may be on to something there.
@flowerchilde (12518)
• United States
21 Jan 13
The left is never outraged unless done by those they consider inferior, which is the right, which I guess they figure are the only ones of the human race who can stereotype and be bigoted. Especially these days when it is proven to the left that conservatives are racist after all they voted conservative! Yep they have our number alright!