i was offended by this remark of a vegetarian...

@dagami (1158)
Rome, Italy
April 25, 2013 3:22pm CST
we attended a dinner party some time ago and there were plenty of people there. it turned out that one of the guests was a vegetarian but there was no problem since the hostess knew about it beforehand and special food for that person was prepared. we were having the usual conversations and we were complimenting the hosts on the delicious dinner. we also got to talking about the choice of some to become vegetarians but no one ever said scathing remarks about it. suddenly the vegetarian said, "how you people can stomach eating the carcass of dead animals is beyond me..." we were eating meat that instant and everyone gaped. i was offended. would you be in my situation?
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@veganbliss (3895)
• Adelaide, Australia
25 Apr 13
Fair enough, but a little tactless. Vegans are better at this sort of thing. Subtle, but hits like a sledgehammer. Maybe with practice they will get better at it? Send 'em over here & I'll train 'em! People don't think about what they are eating really at all. Good on 'em for bringing that to the collective attention. There's an online training manual for this kind of thing too.
@vandana7 (98834)
• India
10 May 13
@veganbliss May be we will have two religions in future, the vegetarians and the non-vegetarians. lol You said the right thing about "provocative" move...I really wonder why people have to ridicule us...I sometime tell them, hey...you are still able to afford that non veg food because we are not adding to the demand ...lol.. and Vegan you are also right about people not thinking what they eat...we eat like babies...anything that comes our way we first confirm whether it can go into our mouth and out...then only we get perplexed about how to use this not edible thing...
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• Adelaide, Australia
27 Apr 13
I wasn't there, so I don't know what else was said, nor the mood of the occassion, but I would have thanked the host, in great detail & frequently first. I would have made more of an effort to join in the conversation before dropping a bomb like that. Still, the vegetarian was out-numbered maybe a dozen or more to one & wonder if they would have said the same thing in more equal numbers? I rarely eat out in mixed company like this these days, but my hosts always know the score before starting out & I only ever answer people's false beliefs if they make the first provocative move. To sit there & say nothing is the same as agreeing with them, which doesn't bother me so much as it is detrimental to them. I only bother with these things because I care about others & can't bear to watch them destroying themselves, animals, the planet etc - however slowly or quickly. And also only if I feel people want to improve themselves already on some level. In real life the responses I get show me that others respect my viewpoint & can see the logical sense in what I say. It's entirely up to them whatever else they decide to do from thence.
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@dagami (1158)
• Rome, Italy
25 Apr 13
he certainly wasn't subtle about it. as i've said, i have as much right to eat my meat as he has to eat his vegetables. i was talking about manners and tact.
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@robspeakman (1700)
25 Apr 13
FACE PUNCH IN Then eat his fingers
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@dagami (1158)
• Rome, Italy
25 Apr 13
come to think of it, he's right.
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@urbandekay (18278)
26 Apr 13
Oh my, you meat eaters are sensitive little flowers, aren't you all the best, urban
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@urbandekay (18278)
26 Apr 13
It appears to be just a statement of truth, where in lies the offence? all the best, urban
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@urbandekay (18278)
27 Apr 13
You took it as a criticism but you know the best good manners are not to never give offence but never to take it all the best, urban
@dagami (1158)
• Rome, Italy
26 Apr 13
it is not in accordance with the accepted rules on table manners, urban. no one has a right to criticize what other people put on their plates, especially dishes that the hostess took pains in preparing. we were all guests.
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@andy77e (5156)
• United States
26 Apr 13
Rule number one: never be offended. There are very few things in life worth being offended at. Rule number two: If someone is upset at something I enjoy, I make it my intention to enjoy it even more. So I will take a large bite, and chew it slowly, and remark how wonderful my chopped steak is, and how the steak sauce is perfect and tangy. And I'll look a the person who made the comment the entire time, with a huge smile of blissful tasty satisfaction. Rule number three: General life rule... never let someone else steal your joy. Just refuse.
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@andy77e (5156)
• United States
27 Apr 13
Anger should always be the last possible response. Love life, and refuse to let anyone steal that from you! Next time this happens just GO FOR IT! EAT HAPPY! Laugh and smile! The moment they say something, turn to the closest person and "MY GOODNESS! These are the BEST lamb chops EVER!"
@dagami (1158)
• Rome, Italy
26 Apr 13
i never thought of this... the surprise caught me off guard and my horns started blazing.
@kokomo (1867)
• Philippines
26 Apr 13
Wow, he was so rude to tell that. You are respecting her as a vegetarian and she should know that. She has her own choice of food and she should mind her own food too. I guess , she is not worth it to attend to any party like that.
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@dagami (1158)
• Rome, Italy
26 Apr 13
i agree. we should respect each other's choices of food. we shouldn't say rude remarks on what others' have on their plates during dinner.
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• Serbia
25 Apr 13
It's weird. I read your post and i wanted to answer that everyone can say whatever they want whenever they want. On the other hand, the timing he said it was really wrong, couldn't be wronger actually. I think he shouldn't had said it at that point. But you say you guys were talking about how can someone become a vegetarian, but no scetchy remarks were maken. Make sure that no scetchy remarks were maken From a Vegetarian's perspective. Because if from a vegetarians perspective, something you said might have been offencive towards vegetarians, then i support the comment the vegetarian made. hehe
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@ajithlal (14716)
• India
26 Apr 13
I thought most people does not discuss their eating habits and likeness in open or argue about it.
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• Serbia
26 Apr 13
I dont have a problem nor think there is anything wrong with discussing eating habits and likeness in the open. I do have a problem arguing about stuff. We can have a conversation. We can agree to disagree. But if we will argue. We better stop talking right now :)
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@dagami (1158)
• Rome, Italy
25 Apr 13
we were actuaslly saying that it is a good choice -.healthwise. somebody just said that she's used to eating meat and she loves the taste.
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@jambi462 (4576)
• United States
26 Apr 13
I wouldn't really be that offended by that statement but I personally am not really that big of a meat eater and I probably could easily go vegetarian if my girlfriend didn't like eating meat so much. I do see the point in what this person is saying and the view that I have more is how unhealthy meat is for you, or at least how unhealthy processed meats are. You can still get good wholesome meats but as with all foods the cheaper stuff is packed with more preservatives and things that aren't natural and not meant to be put into your body. I think that everyone is entitled to their choice of diet but I think that food corporations should be held responsible for how bad their food is for others. I've done my research as well and from what I've come to discover a diet with meat included may be healthier than a diet without it. There are some vitamins that you can't get from just vegetables alone or at least not in the proper amounts.
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@dagami (1158)
• Rome, Italy
26 Apr 13
i know that most farm grown animals are packed with chemicals and medicines nowadays. unfortunately, the farmers need to do this otherwise they will lose a lot of money when a disease strikes one of their animals. i appreciate those who chose to go vegetarian. however, that person should learn to cultivate tact. it is important so he can live harmoniously with other people.
@Cutie18f (9551)
• Philippines
27 Apr 13
That was rude. He should have just chewed and eaten his own food. It seemed like everybody was sensitive to his food preference but he made a mistake of making that rude remark about other people's food preference. He should know better.
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@dagami (1158)
• Rome, Italy
27 Apr 13
the problem is some people do not know how to distingush between what is rude and not. i think he's one of them.
• Philippines
25 Apr 13
I was living with a Buddhist vegetarian before but she was never critical with my meat eating habit. She was open about it. I could still buy and cook meat if I wanted too but i decided to eat whatever she cooked instead. She was a good cook and we always shopped together in a veggie grocery as well. I must say I did not miss meat. I also felt lighter. I was new to her country so I was a little culture shocked so I have been sleepless for almost a month. I never got sick. The food might have saved me. It was only after two months when I decided to start eating meat. It was heaven. I forgot how great meat tasted.:) While I was living with her, I never ate meat in the house. It was good to have at least controlled myself from eating meat everyday. I tried to continue cooking non-meat cuisine when I was back in my country but it did not work. The good thing in her country as well, is that it had a lot of veggie groceries and even restaurants that catered to vegetarians.
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@dagami (1158)
• Rome, Italy
25 Apr 13
i believe that each and everyone of us has a right to choose which kind of lifestyle we want to have as long as we do not hurt other people in the process. you're buddhist friend is a nice person. until i joined mylot and read in one of the discussions here, i never knew that being a vegan is also practiced by some with religious connotations.
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@eagletrek2 (5499)
• Kingston, New York
26 Apr 13
I would of told the person to shut up it not there right to tell some one how to eat. and animal were put on earth for us to eat. not all them.read the kosher laws and it say what animal people should eat and not eat.it at least a way to go. it even has plant that can not be eaten to.
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@dagami (1158)
• Rome, Italy
26 Apr 13
different religions have different views on this matter. i never even knew before i became a mylotter that some are vegetarians because of their religion. with the person we're discussing about, i don't think it was religion that prompted him, it was for health reasons.
@lakshmi11 (278)
• United States
26 Apr 13
This person was not only tactless and arrogant but also clueless.- It turns out that there are people who do need to eat some meat - it depends on their blood type. - It seems to me that this person wanted to be special and as nobody started a discussion according to he specialness of eating vegetarian food, he had to make a remark himself.- .....
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@dagami (1158)
• Rome, Italy
26 Apr 13
on the contrary, we were discussing the health benefits of the vegetarian diet... he was just rude and tactless, i agree with you.
@mariaperalta (19073)
• Mexico
25 Apr 13
Sorry to hear about that, some people just dont care about what they say, Shame on her.
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@Hatley (163781)
• Garden Grove, California
26 Apr 13
hi marika and dagami also that tactless re mark was a slam at the hostess who went to the trouble of serving vegan food to this tact less person'.Somehow nowadays too many people do not use any tact at all.It is like they do not care whose feelings they hujt.
• Mexico
25 Apr 13
Thats right, you said it as I was thinking it. have a great day there.
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@dagami (1158)
• Rome, Italy
25 Apr 13
unfortunately, some people are tactless. they need to learn to think twice before blurting out something that might hurt other people.
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@jdawg011 (498)
• Canada
27 Apr 13
Seems a bit out of place for the setting, and he/she could have said that in a much more polite and respectable way. It is good to be educated on what you are eating, and how the animals that you are eating are being treated, but to put it in such a way as to make everyone around you feel inferior is rude and impolite, especially while eating the food of the host.
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@jdawg011 (498)
• Canada
27 Apr 13
Yes, some people just tend to think they are above everyone else. Maybe he just needs to be brought down a notch.
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@dagami (1158)
• Rome, Italy
27 Apr 13
now that you've mentioned this, i remember his mom said "don't act so superior" to him. some people are convinced that what they're doing is the ONE & ONLY right way, no other option. they feel a sense of superiority and this reflects in the way the phrase their words.
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• China
26 Apr 13
i think it was a coin which has two sides.when there is only one vegetarian, you should all protect him/her,that means no offendce to him/her. i think which kind of diet is ok. but all the people should respect each other.
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@dagami (1158)
• Rome, Italy
26 Apr 13
we were never offensive to him as we were even discussing the health benefits of a vegetarian diet. maybe it was his way of contributing to the conversation.
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• United States
27 Apr 13
I just would look at them and flippantly so, You do realize that bacon is delicious, right? or something similar. Then I'd make a mental note to to be around someone so rude! The hosts accommodated her eating habits; the least she could have done was be gracious.
• United States
28 Apr 13
Was the host even aware of how rude this person was? It was definitely déclassé and uncalled for. I hope your enjoyment of dinner wasn't ruined by her.
@dagami (1158)
• Rome, Italy
27 Apr 13
i get tongue tied when i'm confronted with blatant rudeness, especially in occasions like this where it is least expected. dinner guests are expected to be on their best behavior.
• United States
25 Apr 13
I once was a vegetarian for awhile when I was a little bit younger because I am an animal lover but I never went off or judged meat eaters during that time unless they expressed views that they didn't care if animals were cruelly abused as long as they got a meal out of it. What this person did, the way that they said what they said, was extremely rude. Perhaps they felt like they were on the defense and that's why they lashed out with such a rude remark.
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@dagami (1158)
• Rome, Italy
25 Apr 13
we were talking about how healthy a vegetarian diet is so actually this was a supportive discussion for him. maybe he thought that he could convince us to embrace his beliefs by hitting hard on the topic.
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@cynthiann (18602)
• Jamaica
25 Apr 13
I would have been offended too. I have been vegan about six weeks and if you had told me eight weeks ago that I would refuse baby back ribs, I would have laughed in your face. It happend siddently when the sight od meat repulsed me. It was not a conscuious decision and for a while I was worried. I don't eat cheese either and I was a big cheese eater and dairy is making me nauseous. But I would never inflict my views on anyone else or be so damn rude to come out with a remark like that. Totally crass and uncalled for.
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@dagami (1158)
• Rome, Italy
26 Apr 13
i eat ALMOST everything but i can't stand the smell of lamb. however, if i see (or rather smell) someone eating this, i don't say anything. i consider it bad taste to negatively comment on what others have on their plates during dinner.
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@much2say (53958)
• Los Angeles, California
25 Apr 13
Oh my gosh. I have one fellow mom friend like this. She claims she is vegan and she preaches it. That's fine - but can she find a better time to do her ranting about "saving" the animals? Like this Easter . . . we all got together for our kids so they could do an Easter egg hunt. Somehow the moms' conversation turned into a discussion about how to cook the perfect boiled egg. But this mom changed the conversation into how eggs are a product of a chicken's menstruation - and how could anybody eat something so disgusting. ??????? Anyhow, now on Facebook she is posting all these photos and sayings that are in disgust about eating "animals" . . . I've personally had enough of looking at it that I just skip over her posts now. Anyhow, there's a time and place for those kinds of remarks . . . but doing that at a dinner party is such poor etiquette!!
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@dagami (1158)
• Rome, Italy
25 Apr 13
i absolutely agree with you about the poor etiquette. regarding FB, you can stop receiving updates from her without "unfriending" her, should you want to. chicken's mentruation, my foot!!! hens are not mammals and they do not menstruate.
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@allknowing (130064)
• India
26 Apr 13
Wrong timing indeed!
• Valdosta, Georgia
25 Apr 13
That is gross and highly offensive! That person should not be saying things like that while others are eating. I would have been very offended as well. I mean, people can eat whatever it is they enjoy but to say a comment like that when people are eating? EW!
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@dagami (1158)
• Rome, Italy
25 Apr 13
yes, i agree with you. somehow that remark made me think about the poor cow being butchered and i lost appetite. and he used to word "carcass" which made it more gross. he could have said bodies...
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