Collaborative Writing?

By pgn
@pgntwo (21625)
Derry, Northern Ireland
February 27, 2016 3:46am CST
On June 23rd 2016, the United Kingdom population get a chance to decide whether they remain, a YES vote, or cease to be, a NO vote, a part of the European Union (the EU, or the EEA). This is the first time a country, or member state, is choosing whether or not to leave the EU, although there are other countries in Europe that never joined the EU (Norway or Switzerland for example) since its inception in 1958. So if the NO campaign wins and the UK leaves the EU, what will this mean for nationals of other EU countries who live and work in the UK (as they are freely able to do currently)? The current British Prime Minister, David Cameron, favours a YES vote - for the UK to remain a part of the EU. But some in his party are advocating NO... Food for thought here: If you have ever heard of The Gruffalo, an illustrated children's book known the world over, just think: were it not for the EU, this most wonderful of stories would not exist in the form it does today! This article explains why - is it a storm in a teacup?
The book has sold 13 million copies worldwide - and its illustrator says it would not exist if the UK had been outside the EU.
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• United States
27 Feb 16
I have enough problems trying to figure out what's going on in my country LOL.
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@pgntwo (21625)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
27 Feb 16
Countries. Politicians. The two should never be allowed to mix.
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• United States
27 Feb 16
@pgntwo LOL, politicians should be quarantined on an island...
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@pgntwo (21625)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
27 Feb 16
@AbbyGreenhill Now you're talking!
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@Rollo1 (16649)
• Boston, Massachusetts
29 Feb 16
I have always thou ght the EU was a mistake, and an even bigger mistake for the UK. But, I don't have a dog in this fight, so my opinion doesn't matter.
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@pgntwo (21625)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
29 Feb 16
That's what the guy with the wooden leg said: "It's all a matter of a pinion...". And there's plenty of it about!
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@xFiacre (4375)
• Ireland
18 Mar 16
@pgntwo I think that was just a rumour to get us to join.
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@pgntwo (21625)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
18 Mar 16
@xFiacre Actually, I think the advantages of being In outweigh the cons. Passage through airport immigration seems to be easier, and bringing back "Uk and Ireland" and "All others" queues seems a little like a backwards step...
@LadyDuck (152357)
• Switzerland
27 Feb 16
When the Swiss population was questioned if they wanted to join the reply was a big NO. I do not think that they will change their mind and the Swiss Government would never decide to joint he EU without asking to the population. For the moment I feel safe.
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@pgntwo (21625)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
27 Feb 16
That is what is happening in the UK, in reverse: it is a threat to many, people who have no say in the decision as they are either (a) British, but resident elsewhere in the EU, or (b) from another European Union country, living and working in the UK. Both these classes of people are adversely affected if the decision is to take the UK out of the EU.
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@LadyDuck (152357)
• Switzerland
27 Feb 16
@pgntwo This is why it was wise not to join. We have enough problems now having signed the bilateral, but at least we still have our borders.
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@pgntwo (21625)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
27 Feb 16
@LadyDuck Foresight, a lack of. I wonder how many applications for UK citizenship will be made in the next 3 months or so?
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@MarymargII (9612)
• Toronto, Ontario
1 Mar 16
This is such a tough call and not living there- I can't be sure of the right road but I know there would also be pluses in leaving it as well. Being your own sovereign country does appeal and so do the benefits of staying outweigh the downsides and vice versa?
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@pgntwo (21625)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
1 Mar 16
I think that many of the problems are exacerbated by national pride - perhaps as an idea, it is too much to handle... It is going to take true commitment rather than just lip service to hold it together, and chipping away at the edges is not going to help. Sometimes I think people should think about what they want, rather than what the politicians say they are losing.
• Toronto, Ontario
2 Mar 16
@pgntwo I will be watching for the turnout in JUNE!
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@pgntwo (21625)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
2 Mar 16
@MarymargII I hope those who have the power to make a change can - voter apathy is an awful thing!
@Lucky15 (33418)
• Philippines
27 Feb 16
Going to check that ;)
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@pgntwo (21625)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
27 Feb 16
Did you enjoy the article about the Gruffalo? It makes an interesting point in this debate.
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@Lucky15 (33418)
• Philippines
27 Feb 16
@pgntwo i read the story of gruffalo just to have an idea. Based on the story... the mouse ia cunning..where in the end the gruffalo follows the mouse. Hmmm
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@pgntwo (21625)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
27 Feb 16
@Lucky15 The artwork in the book was drawn by someone who came to the UK years ago from Germany - without the EU, he might never have come, and the illustrations in the book we know and love may never have been. The world works in wonderful ways!
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• Midland, Michigan
28 Feb 16
I don't see why people couldn't still live and work there even if Britain changes in this regard. People from America live there, or maybe I don't know that much about it, I do know that people from our area get sent by their jobs to live for five years at a time overseas, but I don't know every country they live and work in. I've not studied this, so I don't know the reasoning they joined in the first place or why they are considering pulling away at this late date.
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@pgntwo (21625)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
28 Feb 16
If you listen to the politicians, the reasons seem to be many!
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• Midland, Michigan
28 Feb 16
@pgntwo I have enough of them to listen to over here, not going to research them over there too.
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@pgntwo (21625)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
28 Feb 16
@MarshaMusselman Makes you wonder how such a creature ever came into being! A 3-min potted pros/cons video here, but my money says you lose the will to live by minute 2... And it's still only February, just...
Will The European Union Fall Apart? http://testu.be/1UYWZPm Subscribe! http://bitly.com/1iLOHml The United Kingdom is expected to put forth a referendum on i...
@xFiacre (4375)
• Ireland
18 Mar 16
@pgntwo Whatever happened to Common Market butter and cheese that we used to get for nothing if we said we were poor?
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• United States
1 Mar 16
I do hope the UK does stay part of the EU then for so many gifted authors come from other countries besides the USA and I for one want to read them all ! Thanks for this news @pgntwo
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@pgntwo (21625)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
1 Mar 16
The future European landscape looks grim, at this point...
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@MALUSE (39205)
• Germany
1 Mar 16
Some mainland Europeans are tired of the extravagance of the UK. If the Brits don't want to stay, then they can leave. I'm sure that they'll soon see the disadvantages. What's your opinion?
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@pgntwo (21625)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
1 Mar 16
To my mind, the disadvantages of leaving outweigh the advantages. It is going to make travel and trade tricky, not to mention introducing uncertainty for families inside and outside the UK. I think leaving the EU is a bad idea.
@valmnz (12770)
• New Zealand
29 Feb 16
Wouldn't that be a disaster, if the Gruffalo wasn't part of our kid's literature heritage. I'll bet things like that are not considered on the political scene!
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@pgntwo (21625)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
1 Mar 16
People are becoming very, shall we say, polarised over it - and the actual question is confusing enough as it is without brickbats being hurled everywhichway...
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@TheHorse (63954)
• Pleasant Hill, California
28 Feb 16
What are the advantages and disadvantages of being in the EU? It's not something I know much about.
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@pgntwo (21625)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
28 Feb 16
@TheHorse The reasons on each side of that question are many. Here's a 3-minute summary, with links to other sources of info if you wish to learn more:
Will The European Union Fall Apart? http://testu.be/1UYWZPm Subscribe! http://bitly.com/1iLOHml The United Kingdom is expected to put forth a referendum on i...
@DianneN (76157)
• United States
28 Feb 16
And Turkey is in the process of joining.
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@pgntwo (21625)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
28 Feb 16
Crazy, huh? On again, off again, in again out again...
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@Asylum (48282)
• Manchester, England
27 Feb 16
I always have mixed emotions about referendums of this nature. It may seem superficially right for the public to be given the choice, but the average person has too little understanding of the overall scenario to make a decision of that nature. The government did the same about entering the EU, which is usually a way of shelving their responsibility in running the country. Basically we are paying them huge salaries to run the country, but they pass the responsibility back to the public.
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@pgntwo (21625)
• Derry, Northern Ireland
27 Feb 16
Now that's for sure! Delegation can be both good and bad, and they know how to pass the buck...
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