One last night with little bird

@thelme55 Imagine living with someone and learning to trust them for 2 1/2 years then having to go to a new house with new pets and new people and having to learn to trust them too while being terrified and wondering why this was happening and missing your first owner. It is so sad to me. I hope she keeps it instead of finding it another home or it will have to go through this all over again. My heart break for this poor bird.

@BearArtistLady her cage is full of toys and I rearrange them and give new ones often to change things up for her. I learned about the seeds in the dish from when I had my parakeet. I give them fresh water at least twice a day. I really tried with this bird but I truly think she is homesick and wants her mama back. The other bird will calm down when I put him on my shoulder but not the little bird it just never seems to stop screaming. It’s really sad to me how unhappy she is and how much she must want her other mother back. That birds of a feather book sounds amazing I think I will ask our local library to get a copy for me.

@shaggin I'm reading a book about a bird sanctuary and how it's helping the American Vets from various wars and other "police" actions. It's fascinating! It goes into how intelligent birds really are (it reinforces my belief about the fact that animals are really much smarter than dumb humans give them credit for). I have to read it in small segments because it is so heart wrenching at times, especially when it goes into some of the abuse the birds endure. I'm not saying that you're abusing the bird...you're too sweet a person to do something like that....if you weren't concerned for the bird's welfare you wouldn't have contacted the original owner about the problems with the bird. But in the book, "Birds of a Feather", the author tells about how she goes into some of the most deplorable filthy cages to rescue the birds and take them to the sanctuary. Birds like yours, who constantly "cry" for their previous owners that they had grown up with and learned to love and trust. They can't comprehend why they suddenly wind up in a new home with new people whom they have no knowledge of and don't know if they can trust them or not. It isn't your fault, it's just the way that nature works. Actually it isn't just birds that this situation occurs with. I have it with the cats too, and also dogs. I am currently working with a cat that we named Harpo (because he doesn't talk much). I feed him daily and have gotten him to the point that he is at the same spot every day waiting for me to arrive with his food. He has gotten to the point that he will come within 5 feet of me and will sit and consider coming closer. I know with time he may come closer and may even let me touch him, but it will take time for him to gain that trust. I'm pretty sure that one of the neighbors abused him and that's why he won't come close. But I don't mind his not trusting me, I just hope that maybe one day he will trust me enough to come close enough for me to touch him. Back to Little Bird. It could be that there isn't enough stimuli for Little Bird. According to the book, parrots and other birds like that need a lot of toys and other stimuli to keep them happy. Also they need a constant source of food. Just because the dish is full doesn't mean that they have food. It means that the shells from the seeds are in the dish and the inside has been consumed. The birds won't consume the shell because there is no nutritional value in it and it will cause digestive problems. Birds eat a lot more often than any other "pet" that we can have. So we need to keep an eye on the seed dish throughout the day. Also we need to keep track of the water and make sure that there is good clean fresh water for them to drink. The book really blew me away when it stated that the birds need a lot of toys to keep them happy as they need a lot of stimulation throughout the day. Birds love to play and also interact with other birds or humans. So they will tend to scream when they are bored or lonesome. More so when they are bored. That's why you see mirrors in bird cages all the time, it's providing company for the bird in the cage. That's also why you see bells and other things hanging in the cage too. You can't have enough stimuli in the cages for the little feathered friends. Hopefully this has provided some help in understanding Little Bird's screaming. It isn't your fault that he wasn't happy where he was, and hopefully returning him to his original home will help him feel more safe and secure and loved. Pass on to the original owners about the toys in the cage, it might help control the screaming. also having the television on for the bird might help him too.

@snowy22315 If I couldn't have given her back I probably would have kept her rather then her being sent to a new home that she probably wouldn't like any better. I think she needs another bird her own breed to interact with as my Amazon parrot and her both did not like each other one bit!

@caopaopao that's what I think. She is used to living with her first owner for 2 1/2 years and then passed to us. It was a big adjustment for her and I had hoped she would do okay once she got used to us but it doesn't seem to be the case she really isn't getting any better. She is not happy here and I feel terrible for her

@caopaopao yes but since a bird isn't able to understand what is going on it has to be a !ot harder for them. They must feel abandoned without their owners.

@shaggin It seems, like us, that it is not easy for birds to adapt to a new environment.

@DianneN If I had bought her from pet store I would have stuck this out but I had simply adopted her. I tried really hard to bond with her but she just does not like it here. I hope the owner will keep her so she doesn't have to go through a new family again. I feel so bad for her

@DianneN thank you for understanding

@shaggin I feel badly for the poor baby and for you, too. I know you tried your best, but getting screamed at and bitten is just not good. I hope she is happy in her next home and well loved.

@Namelesss how I would love to know what she is thinking so I could make her happy

@Namelesss she will be going back to her first owner today as soon as she messages me. She’s just as miserable today as she has been since we got her so I can’t really spend time with her to say goodbye. I did give her extra treats though.

@shaggin Has she gone back to her first owner yet? Maybe she'll calm down now that she knows the grass isn't always greener.

@NJChicaa our Amazon parrot will scream when it wants attention but when I pick it up and spend time with him he stops screaming. This little conure seems to never stop screaming.

@shaggin that is a known characteristic of sun conures. NO ONE who knows birds ever recommends them.

@NJChicaa Seems sad they are sold in pet stores then seeing as so many are likely to be given up when they can’t tolerate them. If I had bought it I would have stuck with it but I’m not it’s original owner so I don’t feel as bad giving it up since she has not bonded with me really at all.

@allknowing We have so many feral cats around here they would kill her. She can't fly very well as the first owner cut her wings and they haven't grown back fully yet. In the summer she might be okay but any other season would be too cold for her here for a tropical bird to survive outside. Her having food placed in a food dish for 3 years she may not know how to find her own food to survive either.

@allknowing no it's normal here to clip their wings so they won't be able to fly that way they don't fly into windows and mirrors etc. When you buy them at a pet store their wings are always clipped. Then you can trim them as they start growing back every few months. I never clip my birds wings though as I want them to be able to fly up to safety if a cat or dog come near them.

@shaggin Cutting wings is cruelty. This owner that you are talking about is not a lover of animals but a selfish soul I am disturbed reading about this

@hereandthere the first night we got her and every day since my daughter has begged me to give it back. I wanted to give it my all in trying to get the bird to adjust and be happy here but it is simply not working

@LadyDuck I sure hope she will be happier back with her first owner but I think she needs another sun conure to interact with. If they don't keep her I hope they find her a home with another one to see if it will make her happier.

@LadyDuck I thought her having my Amazon parrot would be good but I guess they really need to be with their own breed.

@shaggin Animals are like humans, they need a companion, they also feel alone.

@jaboUK I feel so bad for the poor bird. She must mist her first owner so much to not want to bond with me. I hope her owner keeps her once I give her back so she won't have to go through this again getting used to a new family.

@rakski if she would calm when I spend time with her like my Amazon parrot does I could work with her. But her sitting on my shoulder screaming in my ear and biting me just shows she is not adjusting well here. Hopefully she will do better back with her first owner.

@sallypup something has got to make her happy I just am not it unfortunately I think she needs to be around another sun conure to interact with.

@shaggin One of my sisters has had a parrot for years. Its not socialized much so the bird squawks all the time. I find it to be a sad situation.

@lookatdesktop I feel so bad they have to live in captivity. Inside they are always allowed out of their cages. When ai put them outside they do have to stay in there cage to protect them from the stray cats and they sent to hate being outside so I'm not surprised really seeing they probably feel trapped in it. I did read the link you attached but didn't find anything I didn't already know unfortunately Thankfully both the parrots willing go in and out of each other's cages and explore. They seem to like each other's cages better lol. The Amazon parrot said "hello" clearly since we got him but that's all. He would mumble things under his breath that I could almost make out. Until we got the little bird now he won't mumble at all. The little parrot says "no" after I tell it no bite when it has bitten me.

@shaggin OMG! You remind me of Bill yesterday!!! He is a very patient gentle person and has been very patient with Petey (the cat) and Petey's biting. It's been little love bites, and Bill would pull away and tell Petey "NO BITE". Well we were on our ride yesterday and Petey bit Bill harder this time. He drew blood. I heard a hollow "THUD" and out of the corner of my eye saw Bill raise his hand. He had finally reached the point of losing his patience. I had grabbed a few napkins because I am fighting a case of pneumonia (it's a mild case) and I handed Bill a napkin to mop up the blood with. Bill wrapped the napkin around his hand and reached down to pet Petey and let him know everything was okay. Well wouldn't you know it, that pig headed cat bit Bill again. I saw it happen this time, and saw Bill thump Petey on top of the head and snarl a resounding "NO" at that dim witted cat. More napkins for Bill's hand and I got to hold the cat. Wouldn't you know it, the cat started to reach for my hand to bite it, but I have gotten to the point that I am much faster and I got out of the line of his reach. We finished feeding Spot, one of the semi feral cats that we feed on our ride and Petey crawled back into Bill's lap and laid there and purred like crazy! I had been a bit upset about Bill thumping the cat on the head like he did, then it dawned on me that mother cats do that to their babies when their teaching them not to do things. I fully expect Petey to say "NO" one day soon. Your mentioning the little parrot saying "no" after you saying it to the bird to teach it not to bite reminded me of Petey and Bill yesterday.

@andriaperry I adored my parakeet. My Amazon parrot is okay not great but okay. This sun conure is miserable. I told my boyfriend I had to give the bird back and asked if he was disappointed in me. He laughed and said no that he hates the bird it's an a-hole. It is awful but it's probably because it is homesick and doesn't understand why it is living with me and not his mama

@Shellyann36 I felt so bad giving her up but her new owner said she seemed to be doing really good the last I talked to her.

@shaggin Well, that is good to know. I hope that the bird can settle in with her.