Old People Driving

By Jabo
@jaboUK (64361)
United Kingdom
April 25, 2019 10:04am CST
I expect a lot of us have seen elderly drivers on the road who really shouldn't be behind the wheel. I was talking about this to @Juliaacv on my last post and she told me that in Canada drivers have to retake their test when they reach 80 years old. I think that is an excellent idea, in fact I think it should apply at 70. Here in England when we reach 70 we have to re-apply for our driving licence by filling in a form. This has to be done every 3 years and entails ticking boxes as to what ailment, if any, apply to us. (eyes, heart, mobility. Parkinsons,epilepsy etc). No doctor's opinions are needed, you just fill in the form yourself. Obviously, this is open to abuse as some people don't declare their ailments because they want to keep on driving. I think we should all have to have a proper medical examination when we get to 70, (and every 3 years afterwards) as this would clear a lot of unsafe drivers off the road. Before you think that I'm picking on elderly people - I'm in my 80th year myself and would willingly take a test.
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@amadeo (111948)
• United States
25 Apr 19
here in out state they call it discrimination .They used to be checked.Not any more. But in my state we do not have problems with elderly people driving. I am going to be 89 and I know that my driving is very good and alert. ever since they pass the bill very few here.Majority of them are safe drivers. I do not go along with you on this one.Sorry.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
25 Apr 19
I think that's silly to call it discrimination, and if the result would be to eliminate unfit drivers, that can only be a good thing. People like you (and me) would still be free to drive.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
25 Apr 19
@Fleura That's probably true - at least test everybody that is known to have those conditions. It would be impractical to test everybody.
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@Fleura (29276)
• United Kingdom
25 Apr 19
@jaboUK I don't know that it is silly, younger people can also be affected by diabetes, heart problems, bad eyesight etc. so perhaps everyone should be tested at regular intervals!
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@1hopefulman (45123)
• Canada
25 Apr 19
That is very sensible advice as only those able would be having a licence to drive.
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@1hopefulman (45123)
• Canada
26 Apr 19
@jaboUK Here, there have been some serious accidents and deaths caused by elderly people that should not be driving anymore.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
26 Apr 19
@1hopefulman I'm not surprised.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
25 Apr 19
I'm glad you agree - it makes sense to me.
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
25 Apr 19
For one, the elderly have already poorer eyesight, hearing and reflexes are slower, not to mention medications they may be taking that may impair the ability to drive and diseases that are degenerative in nature due to age. I agree with your point of view not unless they perfect driverless cars and make it available to everyone
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@louievill (28851)
• Philippines
26 Apr 19
@jaboUK driverless cars are the future soon there would be no need for humans to drive manually, probably we can't see or fancy it now as we did with computers and phones as we use them now but car improvement has no where else to go except go driverless or probably fly.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
25 Apr 19
Lol - I gather that driverless cars are an actual possibility - wouldn't fancy that myself.
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@cacay1 (83237)
• Cagayan De Oro, Philippines
26 Apr 19
@louievill, In Ph only few elderly drives, they have their own driver and others their own children.But for me, age is just a figure in driving hehehe.as long as you can still drive, drive.
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@DianneN (247216)
• United States
25 Apr 19
The elderly people in Florida seem to be better drivers than the young ones. I'd be willing to take a driving test at any age if need be.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
25 Apr 19
Older drivers can be perfectly competent, but it's a fact that medical conditions do rear their ugly heads the older a person gets. It would be sensible to test them before renewing their licences.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
25 Apr 19
@DianneN Agreed, but chronic conditions can be detected.
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@DianneN (247216)
• United States
25 Apr 19
@jaboUK Tests may not always help for certain things like a heart attack or stroke.
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@HazySue (39264)
• Gouverneur, New York
25 Apr 19
I think it is a great idea also. Not to mention the fact that the older we get the longer it seems to react to anything.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
25 Apr 19
Yes, that is true, though a lot of us are still fit to drive. A lot aren't though.
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@cacay1 (83237)
• Cagayan De Oro, Philippines
26 Apr 19
@HazySue, so true, and that is one fact of life, so sad, but no one can stop the age to go higher and higher,LOL.
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@responsiveme (22926)
• India
26 Apr 19
Not many older people drive around here.Maybe they give it up themselves seeing the rash driving of the youngsters.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
26 Apr 19
'allknowing' commented that not many women drive in India and certainly not senior women. What you say bears that out.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
26 Apr 19
@responsiveme That's good that you have good public transport so don't need to drive.
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@snowy22315 (171267)
• United States
25 Apr 19
I think it sort of depends on the area, the traffic and familiarity with where they are. Some people should not drive at 70 and others are fine until they are 90 it seems.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
25 Apr 19
Yes, I know that lots of older people are perfectly fit to drive (I consider myself one of them), but having to have a medical would weed out the ones who are not. And I don't think familiarity has anything to do with it - we all know that the unexpected can happen when we are driving.
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@cacay1 (83237)
• Cagayan De Oro, Philippines
26 Apr 19
@snowy22315 I met a driver in Auckland, NZ still driving at age 92. I interviewed the man and asked his age.Therefore, age is just a figure in driving,LOL.
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@cacay1 (83237)
• Cagayan De Oro, Philippines
26 Apr 19
@jaboUK Very well explained my friend.
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@allknowing (130292)
• India
25 Apr 19
In our country few women drive and certainly not seniors
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@allknowing (130292)
• India
25 Apr 19
@jaboUK I do not own a car. I prefer taxis and autos. Kind of helping reduce traffic on roads - I mean it.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
25 Apr 19
Goodness Grace - have you never driven? I'd hate to be without my car.
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• Valdosta, Georgia
25 Apr 19
I think it would be a good idea, for safety reasons only.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
25 Apr 19
Yes, that's it exactly - safety for themselves and other people.
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@cacay1 (83237)
• Cagayan De Oro, Philippines
26 Apr 19
@LovingMyBabies, exactly.It's hard to deal when there's road accident.
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@xFiacre (12500)
• Ireland
25 Apr 19
@jabouk I know a lady of 100 who drives much to the distress of her family. Many people know when it’s time to stop, but many don’t. A 94 year old I know had a bump and police gave her 9 points on her licence so that she was automatically excluded. Unbeknown to her family she retook her test - and passed! The family is not pleased.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
25 Apr 19
I was fortunate in that my husband voluntarily gave up after his heart op, but as you say, some people don't know when to give up.
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@NJChicaa (116304)
• United States
25 Apr 19
I think it is a wonderful idea.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
25 Apr 19
I'm glad you are with me on this, I think it makes sense.
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@JohnRoberts (109857)
• Los Angeles, California
25 Apr 19
Pretty much the same with California DMV.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
25 Apr 19
Is that so? One of the commenters here has said that Illinois does test it's over-75 drivers, so it must vary from state to state in the US. Laws in England apply to everyone.
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@nela13 (55824)
• Portugal
25 Apr 19
In Portugal we have a similar system.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
25 Apr 19
Similar to England?
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@nela13 (55824)
• Portugal
25 Apr 19
@jaboUK yes, I am not sure about the age but I think it is at 75.
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@CarolDM (203449)
• Nashville, Tennessee
25 Apr 19
I have often said this to many people. It absolutely should be done for the safety of the driver and the others driving.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
25 Apr 19
That's so true Carol.
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• Pamplona, Spain
25 Apr 19
I have found the worst drivers at least over here to be in between 40 and 50 and have very little patience. One of them nearly took a woman with him drving over the zebra crossings this afternoon. He was about 40 he knew that he had to stop like it or not and so he did not stop.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
25 Apr 19
Between 40 and 50 you think you know it all , but you get hotheads in most age groups.
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• Preston, England
25 Apr 19
Sadly some ageing drivers don't learn before they crash that it is time to retire from the wheel
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• Preston, England
25 Apr 19
@jaboUK it must be frustrating not being able to start the car up again
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• Preston, England
26 Apr 19
@jaboUK good that he has your support
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
25 Apr 19
@arthurchappell He didn't mind actually because he always had me to drive him round
@jobelbojel (34730)
• Philippines
25 Apr 19
I think people can drive as long as they can.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
25 Apr 19
What do you mean? If you mean while they are still physically capable, I agree.
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@hostessman (11871)
• Tucson, Arizona
25 Apr 19
it is a tough situation because for every old person who is not the best driver there are a young person who is just as bad or they are texting on there phone
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
25 Apr 19
I know that there are bad drivers in every age group, but I'm talking specifically about those who are medically not fit to drive. Most of them would be in the older age group.
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• Midland, Michigan
29 Apr 19
Now wait a minute there. I was thinking you were only a few years older than me and although I'm getting up there... Are you really already eighty? I must have miscalculated when you shared your age previously, or I fell asleep while reading or something. I agree that as we age we should have to do more to remain driving. I've seen several people here that shouldn't be on the road any longer and rarely do the kids step up to regulate things. They don't want to overstep their parent's desires, when what they really should be thinking about is keeping their parent's alive longer and not allowing their parent's to be the cause of some major accident that could have been prevented. I think giving the written test would also weed certain elderly drivers out. For one thing it may show when their sight is deteriorating or when their understanding is lessening. Some years ago I followed an elderly man when he took a left onto a two way road when he had the red light. I waited until the light turned, but stopped him, he'd gone into a shopping area. He stated that he's always been able to turn left in that situation,but I know that sometime in the past he'd forgotten the proper times he could turn left.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
29 Apr 19
I agree, but don't think it should be up to their children to stop them. That could cause resentment, whereas if they were stopped on medical grounds that's the end of the matter. (I'll be 80 in December Marsha).
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• Midland, Michigan
29 Apr 19
@jaboUK I think that's why most kids don't step in even when they know full well that the parent shouldn't be driving. I don't know whether the driving laws will ever take into account medical illnesses. Most illnesses wouldn't be ones that should affect driving it should be more of ones that affect mainly the elderly plus a few others I suppose. My mom had macular dementia and we finally recommended she quit driving when she got in an accident. No one else was hurt, but she couldn't see over snow piles in the winter. Maybe others had issues in that location, but we didn't want to take any chances. Because her sight was getting worse, she didn't fight us on it. Some people have neuropathy and it affects their feet as well as their hands. My husband is beginning to have that and I'll want to remember to ask him periodically how much it's affecting his foot. He only has the one foot, but even then, I'm sure he won't think about whether it's safe to drive if it gets worse through the years. I know the mayor in my town and while she doesn't have the duties many other mayors do, maybe she'd know how to get something like this included in driving license renewals. If I find anything out, I'll let you know.
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• Midland, Michigan
29 Apr 19
@jaboUK I would think that by a certain age all drivers should stay out of the driver's seat, but I have no idea what age that might be. Even when people are still sane and don't have detrimental diseases you'd think their response time would be a lot less at some average age. I've even noticed myself thinking differently such as I've realized too late that I could have turned left on a light and I stayed put instead. I'm sure I made a few drivers in back of me mad. Later, I double-checked that signal after doing that twice in one week to see if it was obvious or not on whether I could go and I discovered the light was exactly where it should be for the driver to know. I'd rather sit at a green light than go through a red one, but sometimes that's just as bad as the other. I think that either having the elderly do the written test or do a verbal one where odd ball questions are asked to determine the cognitive quality of each individual would be a beginning. I realized a few years ago that it has been years since I've had to do the written test. When I was young I had to do it about every eight years or so. I found out that isn't done anymore. Whether they quit after a person reaches a certain age, or whether no one has to do the written ones unless they're a newer driver I don't know, but that in itself concerned me. Because for those drivers where their sight is failing, that would be the first sign.
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@andriaperry (116860)
• Anniston, Alabama
25 Apr 19
I do agree but I know more people that are younger that should NOT drive.
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@jaboUK (64361)
• United Kingdom
25 Apr 19
Oh yes, there are people who shouldn't be driving, however old they are.
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