Sick of catering to Seniors

@emeraldisle (13139)
United States
December 17, 2006 9:45pm CST
I live in an area that has a fair amount of senior citizens. I live in Florida where there are more nursing homes, ACLFs and senior communities then you can shake a stick at. There are also senior citizens in every neighborhood. I don't have a problem with that at all. What I have a problem with is the companies that cater to them. Most of the stores and restaurants give a senior discount. Banks give free accounts to senior citizens. Apartment complexes for seniors only are cheaper and have more amenities. Then we get to hiring practices. Business' get extra credit with the government for hiring senior citizens. The companies are more willing to give part time work or flexible hours to them. Added to that most seniors do not care if they get benefits since they already have insurance or if they get more then minimum wage because then they don't have to pay back to social security. All together this makes them far more desirable to business to hire and the business are more then willing to take them. Around here they argue that seniors are on a fixed income. Well so am I. I can only make so much money. They can make a good amount on top of social security before they have to pay it back. So why are we catering to them this way? Is anyone else sick of situations like this?
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@peavey (16936)
• United States
18 Dec 06
Well... I'm a senior and I get sick of catering to the young folks. ;) Jobs go to the young, marketing is directed to the young, stores are created just for the young, apartment complexes are filled with the young.... But really, if the prevailing attitude doesn't suit you, why don't you move? There are other places that don't cater to the elderly, believe me.
@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
18 Dec 06
If I could I would believe me. Money though is hard to come by and moving does take a lot of money. If you want to have the catering move to Florida. They seem to bend over backwards to seniors. I believe seniors reserve our respect I just don't think the businesses should honor just them but also the next generation coming up.
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@nhtpscd (1416)
• Australia
18 Dec 06
Don't pick on the elderly we have to remember we will get there too. It is getting to the stage the younger don't respect the older community. I take my kids twice a year to a local nursing home just so they have some company and new faces to chat to.
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
18 Dec 06
I'm glad to hear you take them to a nursing home. That is good because so many are not visited by family or friends even if they live close by. Seniors have a lot to offer to the next generation. I agree with that. I just don't think they should pay less for things or get jobs just because they reached a magical number set by society.
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@shiboleth (270)
• Canada
18 Dec 06
You will be a senior too some day if you are lucky. They are our honored elders and they should be respected for their experience and their sacrifice. It's only right that they should be treated well.
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@shooie (4984)
• United States
18 Dec 06
Senior discount is all over not just that area...hun you ever think that maybe they deserve it...they did their time in the work force...and when they were younger or even your age the work was harder and the pay was a hell of a lot less and benefits some jobs didn't offer back in the day....
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@shooie (4984)
• United States
18 Dec 06
Senior discount is all over not just that area...hun you ever think that maybe they deserve it...they did their time in the work force...and when they were younger or even your age the work was harder and the pay was a hell of a lot less and benefits some jobs didn't offer back in the day....
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
18 Dec 06
I'm not saying they shouldn't be respected. They do deserve our respect but why should I have to buy a dinner for $10 and they get to buy the same dinner off the "senior's menu" for $6? That is just one example I am talking about. This area makes anyone under 55 pay more and will charge even more then they would otherwise just so they can give the discount to the seniors.
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@claudia413 (4280)
• United States
18 Dec 06
Great discussion, Emerald. I live in South Florida, and I'm a senior citizen...finally. I've always had the opposite attitude. I felt like all the young people were catered to in job selection because so many could be paid less since they have less knowledge. Some really stupid companies I've worked for in the past even hired good looking young women who couldn't even type to be an executive secretary and retired us older women who made their executives look good. I have one of those flex-time jobs, but I share it with 2 women who are 25 and 32. They appreciate my knowledge, and I sure appreciate their youth. I'm not on a fixed income yet, but all I wanted after 40+ years of working full time was a part time job. I lucked into it through a neighbor. I worked many years to get my senior discounts at a few places, and I sure take advantage of them. My social security comes in very handy now and it allows me to only have to work part time. If our government would stop giving it away to illegal aliens, there may be some left for our kids and grandkids when they retire (if they can ever afford to). Our bank has free checking accounts for everyone, not just seniors. If you have Washington Mutual where you are, check them out. I think many places cater to seniors because they have more disposable income than younger people who are raising kids, etc. (been there, done that). Chin up, Emerald. Try to get a job where you have contact with some of those senior citizens. You might be surprised how much you can teach each other. And, one last thing, I'm like my Mom was...don't ever make me live in a senior citizens complex. I need to be around younger people to keep my perspective. I wish you luck.
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• United States
18 Dec 06
Hmmm...maybe I will move closer to your area when I retire next year. In South Florida, it's only the young, good looking people or the Cubans who get preferential treatment. I'm sure it's hard to live on a fixed income anywhere in Florida, but South Florida is definitely the worst place. We can't wait to get out of here in late 2007. However, we're very lucky since my husband will have a very nice pension for 30 years of working for our county government. This will supplement our social security very nicely. We have friends in Inverness who are asking us to move up their way. It's a great area for us to consider, as is Ocala. Do check around for banks in your area that offer free checking to everyone. Look in your yellow pages...they're out there.
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
18 Dec 06
Hehe move to central Florida then. I live over near Tampa. The stores all cater to the Seniors. Even unemployment does. They have someone there from AARP and many of the jobs go to seniors only. I don't mind being around seniors. I have learned a great deal from them and have worked in many ACLF's and nursing homes. They can be wonderful. I'm not denying that. I'm just very frustrated at being told over and over again that this is just for seniors. I see an apartment for rent at a good price. "Oh sorry this is a 55 and older only park". Or "On Tuesday double discounts for seniors," at a restaurant that gives them a 15 percent discount to begin with. You know darn well they are charging the others more to make up for it. Same thing happens at the movie theaters, beauty salons, and other businesses. Some senior complexes are very nice and do serve their purposes but I agree they are not for everyone.
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
18 Dec 06
I would suggest moving closer to Ocala only due to the fact that this area the houses have all skyrocketed recently. I'm not actually looking for an account right now but thank you for suggesting that. I was just trying to make a point though that far too often seniors are given discounts simply because of their age and the arguement they are on a fixed income. As you pointed out you will have a retirement fund plus social security and you'll still be able to work if you want to. That's quite a bit of income coming in if you so choose. Then add to it you get the discounts at many companies. Overall not a bad set up when you think about it.
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• United States
18 Dec 06
I absolutely agrre wit ya hun..and i dont understand wher anyone said you were disrespecting the elderly..no where i am reading i see this.. your just making a point they get better discounts.and such..but as far as work goes..I se it there way..I know many friends parents, aunts,grammas,cant find work because most companies want young people fo the job and the elderly might need to work longer or cant make in on social security i know i sure in hell am barly makin it from the hair..yes one hair on my bum lol lol..but when it conmes to food discounts..you soo right!! I know i have heard from my parents well we deserve it for all we went threw..WELL HELOOOOO IM GOING THREW IT RIGHT NOW..im disabled, and have a 4yr old son and i am barely making it..and that few extra bucks i could use..orrr..it would be nice to be appreciated being a parent..why not senior and parnts doiscounts?? YEAAA!! I SHOUDL PATENT THAT! LOL HEY I HAD IT FIRST!! LOL ..and they also get alot ofplaces fo them..like centers,and buses that take them to plays and theaters..and everywhere..well here..and theer is nooooo place for any kid to go but the Play ground..no kid centers,,and they get yelled at from police for tresspassing..when they find somewhere to have fun..sooi see bot hsides..but i am more on ur side on your points u made.
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• United States
18 Dec 06
Hey, cloud_kicker, someone already thought of food discounts for families with kids. There are several in this area that offer free meals for kids on certain days when a parent buys a meal. I don't get upset about that. I just wish they'd offered it when my kids were small and I couldn't afford for all of us to go out and eat. Boy, do I wish there were more safe places for kids to gather today, but I think most of them are spending more time inside on computers than spending time outside like my age group did. I think everyone on here has valid points, and I'm glad Emerald started this topic.
@deebomb (15304)
• United States
2 Jan 07
we used to eat at shonnie and the kids under 5 got to eat free. Then when they got older we were given a discount for them. when igot disability at about age 40 ther was a place that people on disability could live. the ren was based on income only. I'll bet there is some place like that ther too. So long ago I don't remember what it was called
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
18 Dec 06
I know what you mean. I'm fighting with disability right now to get it for myself. Even if I do get it I won't get a discount because I'm not over the age limit :) I can understand why seniors would have to work. That I don't have aproblem with. I'm just upset when companies want to hire them no matter what. It's actually kind of sad to see a 70 year old man doing stocking at Wal-mart or doing custodial work at the schools. Those should be going to young men who are starting out. One they have more stamina for it but also they can do it for years. Instead they will hire a senior knowing it's only for a few years and then get some other one in. That way they don't have to worry about retirement plans or benefits. Wouldn't a parent discount be nice? Or how about a under 55 housing area? Yeah like they wouldn't scream about that as being age discrimination. The fact that there are numorous ones in this area for 55 and over would be besides the point.
@Lindalinda (4111)
• Canada
18 Dec 06
Alright you say you are not putting down seniors but only the companies that cater to them. These companies are wise to do so. It is good business sense. Seniors although on a fixed income usually have some disposable income and will spend it where they get the best for their buck. Also remember these very same seniors contributed and paid taxes for years and years and years. Part of these taxes provided funds for schools and educating your generation. The unescapable truth is that one day you also will be a senior and I think you will be grateful if someone gives you a break.
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
18 Dec 06
Oh so when I reach that magic number that they decide is a senior I will suddenly be able to get anywhere from 10 to 50 percent off things and get prefences for jobs? Nice to know but it would be nice if I could get the job now so that way when I am that age I will have paid some money into it. You think I'm exaggerating but in this area the jobs go to the seniors. Why should a company hire me to do a job, pay me above minimum wage, give me forty hours a week, give me benefits when they can hire two or three senior citizens at minimum wage, part time and with no benefits? You say it makes good business sense but to me it seems a bit unfair. The seniors have worked, had the opportunity, let the next generation have one. Originally social security was designed to keep seniors out of the work force. Did you know that? It was put in so that way they would retire and the next generation could get the jobs. Well now it's not happening. The companies would much rather hire them then the younger group, at least around here.
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
18 Dec 06
You may be right they don't get what they were promised. How often does the government ever give what they promise to people? However just because they were short changed by them doesn't mean they should get discounts places. If that was the case then why don't we have Native American discounts? If anyone has been short changed by our government it's been them.
• United States
18 Dec 06
When you get older I'm sure you'll realize that this is a silly thing. They are on more of a fixed income then you are. You sound like you are young enough that you could get just about any job you wanted to. The elderly are not that lucky. They have more medical problems, and sometimes unfortunatly mental problems. As you get older you can't do all the things that you could when you are younger. Just to let you know I'm not complaining at all or trying to be rude. I just know this from first hand experiance. I'm 31 and I use to work with retired people on a farm. They were great to work with but there would be times they would have me do something just because I was younger and could do it. Also with my parents I find myself helping them do more and more htings that they use to be able to do. I am not complaining about that at all. I love doing stuff for them because they do way more things for me then most parents would even think about doing for their kids. Someday you'll get old and be in their situation. Then you'll probably be complaining about places catering to the younger people. How the tecnology is made for them or it's a younger persons world.
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@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
18 Dec 06
I'm not disrespecting the seniors or putting them down. I'm putting down the companies in this area that cater to them. That hire them and not the younger generation. When I walk into a walmart and see more 65 year old workers then I see anything else that should give you an indication or when at unemployment they have someone working there from AARP to help them find the jobs and I'm told I can't even apply for some jobs because I'm not over 55. The companies want the seniors because they then get a discount from the state on their taxes, just like if they hire a minority. By the way if I could get any job I wanted to do you think I'd be posting on here? I'm 38 with a back that most doctors expect to find in 80 year old women and that is only part of my medical problems. So believe me I know what it's like to be on a fixed income. I don't get discounts any place because I'm not a student and I'm not a senior citizen. I have to pay for their discounts. I cannot move into some areas around here because they are for for 55 and older only. Maybe it's not like that in your area and if it's not great for you. I hope it continues to be that way.
@Foxxee (3651)
• United States
5 Apr 07
I did just stop to think and Wal-Mart does have a lot of older people working there. The elderly people that work at my Wal-Mart mainly just greet people at the door or hand out carts and I love them. They are so sweet. You know, they deserve a chance to work too. A lot of places wont hire an elderly person.
@wsue1023 (1395)
• United States
18 Dec 06
I think one of our problems in the U.S.A. is that we haven't been taught to respect our elders. I see this everywhere. I believe that seniors should be given special treatment including discounts and opportunities to work if they so choose. I've been on a fixed income several times in my young life (I'm not a senior) and yes it's a challenge, but unless you're disabled or in ill health, you can usually rise above it given enough time and determination. The elderly don't always have that luxury. So, I'm all for supporting them any way we can. Many of these folks have worked very hard through the course of their lives and if the government didn't make special allowances for them, society wouldn't either. In many cultures the elderly are considered wise and are honored. Their families work to support them in the later years. Here, we tend to treat them like they're second class citizens. I don't get it. We do so many things backwards in the US. I love my country, but there are a few lessons on how to treat one another that many of us have yet to learn.
@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
18 Dec 06
As I have stated many times I do honor seniors and respect what they have accomplished. That is not what I'm talkinga bout in this discussion. However just because they are a certain age shouldn't automatically give them extra benefits. Why should age be allowed to get special treatments. That is like saying because I'm white or a female I should get special treatment.
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@sunrisekn (1466)
• United States
18 Dec 06
Respect works both ways. I too live in an area where a lot of seniors are. I don't have a reservations about seniors getting discounts, cheaper living, etc...They should, they have paid their dues. What I would like to see or better yet hear is a "thank you". I am very respectful, I was raised by a military father who was very strict. So many times I will hold a door open, or stop and let seniors cross into Wal-Mart and I do not get a wave, a high five or even a flipping of the bird. What happened to common courtesy? Half the time, when I hold the door open I am also holding my 9 month old and no one offers to help me or hold a door open for me, and then add insult to injury and not say thank you. PPLLEEAASSEEE!!! You give a little respect, you'll get a little respect. I do know that one day I will be a senior, but the life lesson I'll take with me in age is say thank you when someone holds a door for you.
@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
18 Dec 06
I have a great deal of respect for them. They have gone through so much in their life times and have over come many obsticals. That being said so have women, blacks, and many others in this country. Why should age be a reason for special treatment? I have seen some take advantage of situations just because they are seniors. I have had others though that do not. In that regard they are just like any other human. Some have manners some do not. Some will always take advantage of society while others contribute, age isn't really a factor into it. We all need to remember when dealing with others not to judge, not to assume and to always be polite. It would be nice if everyone remembered to do so.
@sbeauty (5865)
• United States
18 Dec 06
Honey, all I've got to say to you is that you'll be old yourself one day, and it will come faster than you think. Someday you'll grow up and realize that you aren't the center of the universe, and hopefully you'll start valuing the contributions older citizens have made to the world we live in. And, no, I'm not a senior citizen myself, but I know a lot of really fine people who are.
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@Kylalynn (1771)
• South Africa
18 Dec 06
Senior citizens deserve special discounts etc. They are the ones that have worked hard in the past helping the country to grow. They have retired now and if a senior citizen chooses to work then why not. There minds will be kept active and not disintergrate as it so often does sitting at home. Also senior citizens have a lot more knowledge and are definetly more wiser than younger people. We should respect them for this. We should also allow them there priveliges that they have worked so hard for all of there lives. One day you will be old, I'd like to see what you have to say then.
@JC1969 (1224)
• United States
18 Dec 06
I guess my take on it is that once a person earns the status of senior citizen they have earned the extra perks that go with it. You wouldn't complain at a hotel or restaurant or other such company that gave you discounts for your children would you? As for hiring a senior citizen, I am upset that a senior citizen who has worked their whole life, and earned the right to retire should have to apply for a job. Unfortunately, they have to work even though they have hit the age of retirement. It's either they work or they become homeless, or can't buy food, or their needed medications. You must live in fairy-tale land if you think a senior citizen can live on social security. By the way, most senior citizens, who have no choice but to supplement their social security with a job, are also not permitted to work over the designated hours as stipulated by the law.
@cafephan (19)
• United States
18 Dec 06
I believe that Seniors have a lot to offer. Their retirement without having enough time to pass on the knowledge and experience even made society go down. Here in California, I workd for the State, and about 45 years ago, the Departments are very strong and good. But in recent years, it's gone down badly because elders retire too quickly; therefore, the knowledge and experience is lost with their retirement. But if society is willing to keep those people around, especially businesses, it'll be a lot better.
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@maribea (2366)
• Italy
16 Mar 07
oh I have never read or known anything about such a favourable regimen for senior citizens...it is so interesting reading your posts from all over the world because we can learn so much...I think that Italy and Florida are very different places where polical and social aspects are concerned...in Italy government has a great problem dealing with the increasing aging of population and you can happen to work all your life and not fully obtain all what you were supposed to receive when retiring...it is a very difficult problem and they're working hard to solve it...but sure there are not so much facilities for old people and there are not so much people or agencies caring for them...there is only one similarities...senior people have better jobs than young one because population is aging and you have to wait for older people to leave good jobs before you can have it being young and if older people earlier retires government doesn't have enough money to pay them back...so it is very difficult finding a good work...but Florida seems the paradise of senior people...maybe I am coming there if I ever become old ....and rich
@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
16 Mar 07
I know what you mean about the senior's not retiring and thus not allowing for others to move up or new jobs to open up for other generations. It can be a big frustrating. Heheh yeah if I was old and rich I'd probably love Florida as well.
@taymouse (585)
• United States
5 Apr 07
Senior citizens deserve to be catered to. They were once hardworking like you, made a lot of sacrifices like you. Now it is so much harder for them because a lot of elderly people aren't as young as they used to be. Their vision isn't as good, they can't be as fast or stand up as straight, on top of other problems they might have. In most cases the older you get, the more rundown your body is. So older people need the advantages. A lot of senior citizens fought in the war to give you the freedom you have today. I think they deserve special treatment and more respect than they get. The elderly are often abused by busy young people.
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@shooie (4984)
• United States
18 Dec 06
pouts am tired of em both us middle aged people just don't have a chance...giggles teasing...When I was a child I was around older people all the time...oh the memories are so sweet. I learned a lot. Even as I grew older I spent a lot of time around older people. I pretty much get along with both groups older and younger...I know older people that work and they work hard. If people aren't complaining about older people then it's younger people or white people or black or mexican or or or on and on we go can pick a part just about any group of people. I don't begrdge older people when they wanna work and can more power to them. I'll be old someday and well looks up to the 38 year old we both heading that way one day...pssst they'll feel the same about us as well...lol
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• United States
18 Dec 06
Like all things in life laws and government try to make things better for people who usually get the short end of the stick and it sometimes ends up giving them the balance of power or being better off than the people who used to get the breaks. Nothing is perfect in life and we sometimes have to swallow more of that fact than we would like. However, there are still many elderly people in this country who are barely getting by. Some seniors are not getting all of these benefits and you must keep this in mind. When you live in a community that caters to one select group you must expect them to receive better benefits than you. One day when you too are a senior citizen, you will be glad that your community has these benefits. We could sit and complain all day about stuff not being fair.
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• United States
18 Dec 06
I do not know why you are botheredby this.most elderly are on social security which is like $600 a month so i understand why we cater to them they need the extra help and one day your going to be a elderly so i do not know it bothers you your time is comming so dont get so mad about this they lived their life they deseve to be catereed to.
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• United States
19 Dec 06
I do feel like seniors get a lot of breaks financially when they're not always (necessarily) the one's who need it. I think a lot of younger kids struggle financially especially when they're in college. I remember being beyond broke when I was in school & getting fed up with seeing senior discounts everywhere I went when I was the one who was barely making ends meet. Of course that's not the case across the board but it does happen.
@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
19 Dec 06
Thank you first of all for reading the full post and realizing I'm not saying that seniors should be disrespected. I cannot believe how many people just read the top subject and don't bother to go any further. I'm a little ticked at how many times I have had to say over and over again that it was not what I meant. I know it can get very frustrating when you go to buy something and you have to pay the full price but the person in front of you, who is buying the same thing, gets it cheaper just because they are over 55. It just doesn't seem right. It should be the same price for everyone.
@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
19 Dec 06
I read through posts before I respond but also in my opening paragraph I stated I do not have a problem with seniors. I also posted it on the first page of responses, the second page, the third page and so on.
• United States
19 Dec 06
jeez.. you expect me and everybody else to read through 5-10 pages of posts to see if you may have clarified what you meant? i don't have time for that.
• United States
18 Dec 06
I would rather see the senior citizens who have worked hard all their lives get the jobs over the illegal immigrants that are using fake social security numbers and then taking the money and and sending it home and buying big beautiful houses in their country. I know alot of seniors are just making it,and the extra money is paying for meds,the illegals are working,getting free food and money from the government and getting ahead while the seniors aren't. Maybe because i work retail and see what the seniors pay for medicine and see how they're treated that i feel this way. I myself am the working poor now and i would like to hope that there are programs for me so i don't have to burden my children.
@HerrHaar (16)
• United States
19 Dec 06
Gee, emeraldisle, I'm one of those old farts that annoy you so much. I just got through paying my property taxes (85% of which are school taxes) and am now short 17 large. If you youngsters would stop breeding so fast and I didn't have to put up with your rude, service absorbing, tax money sucking little brats -- well, I might just die out of gratitude and get the hell out of your way. UhOh! who's gonna pay all those taxes now? HH
@emeraldisle (13139)
• United States
23 Dec 06
Thank you very much for the apology and for posting it. I know you didn't have to. I do admit when I got to this page of posts and I had repeated several times that I wasn't against seniors I was a bit over sensitive to it. So I might have been sharper then I should have. I agree with you there that white males under 55 had a very hard time right now. I have two brothers both in their 40's and I know how hard it is for them trying to find a job. It would be nice if things were done as they should be. That laws were applied fairly and that discrimination of any sort didn't happen. I'm seeing it happen more and more with age in my area and also with smoking but that is for another topic :) Thank you again for the apology, that is nice to see.