Help me convert!

@sharone74 (4837)
United States
December 22, 2006 11:49am CST
I am now 32 years old and after 15 years in the adult industry as a dancer and escort I find that the little niceties that most people learn in the social dance are not a part of my repotoire. As I am trying to convert into a normal more mainstream persona I am finding myself at a loss as to the skills and social conventions of a "normie" Other than to make jokes and laugh at you guys we never gave a lot of thought to what it would be like to make the "jump" out of "La vita loca" and into the life of a mainstream American girl! If you have any tidbits of social interaction skills that you have earned through experience in doing the social dance I would truly appreciate some pointers or tips!
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36 responses
• Canada
22 Dec 06
Education is always the best way to start. Take classes, it doesn't have to be full-time at first, just broaden your horizons and interests. 32 means maybe only a third of your life is over, so you sure have a lot more road to travel down. Make the most of it :)
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@sharone74 (4837)
• United States
23 Dec 06
Thank you for that response I am currently enrolled full time online with the University of Phoenix online and I have a 3.17 GPA. in my course of study which is Information Technology
• China
23 Dec 06
i am reading,reading............
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@brujj1 (228)
• Canada
23 Dec 06
what makes you think people here are "normies"?
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@Ravenladyj (22904)
• United States
22 Dec 06
Oh I dont think its that hard myself..mind you I ALWAYS kept my work and personal life seperate to the best of my ability...I also worked in Canada (Ontario) so if you have always worked in the U.S I really dont know what the environment is like here....plus I've been retired for 7 yrs after working far too many in the adult industry (stripping for 12 and various things for a few yrs before that)....Its not that hard really...I mean you are you bottomline and trying to fit into that whole "society says be this way" life you'll be miserable....Just be yourself really...its not that hard...dont concern yourself too much with how others view you...the important thing is how you view yourself....make sense?
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@sharone74 (4837)
• United States
23 Dec 06
You are so right! What do you do for a living now?
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@Ravenladyj (22904)
• United States
23 Dec 06
I owned my own biz for 2 yrs and now i'm officially retired and am just a stay at home mom..I'd like to start up my own biz again but probably not for another yr or two... Do you not associate with anyone from the clubs now? (if you dont mind my asking) Thats one thing I could never break myself of is hangin out with the girls still..I loved goin back to the club for visits with the girls and some of my regulars..plus I much prefer to hang out in a stripclub than a regular club...but i have to admit that I've never been to a club here in the U.S so I dont know if its as laid back as in Ontario..
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@Chiriac (286)
• Romania
23 Dec 06
yes i agree with all, education it`s the best to start.
@lafavorito (2959)
• Philippines
23 Dec 06
Welcome to the "normie" world, well almost, but you'll get here soon.. How many months do you still need to complete your degree? You could probably try to get a part-time job as a waitress, receptionist or cashier, you could get a lot of social interaction in those jobs, or you could try hanging out in a mall once in a while and observe how "normies" behave. Oh by the way, I'd love to learn pole dancing, I bet you are so fit..
• India
23 Dec 06
In my opinion, Education is the key to success and a medicine for better tomorrow. You should take a decent education and it doesn't have to be any academic or scientific education, you can learn art forms and can step in artistic fields like dancing, acting, film production or singing. You just have to have courage and strong determination.
@tiamat (113)
• United States
23 Dec 06
Just be yourself. I'd imagine that after years of working as an escort, you've gotten quite good at putting on "the mask". being the person your clients want you to be seems like it would come with the territory. Feel free to be you, at parties, dinner engagements social situations. Get in touch with what really makes you tick, and don't be afraid to experess it.
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@sharone74 (4837)
• United States
23 Dec 06
That is a fantastic answer! Thank you very much. You have cut to the core of the problem and also offered sound advice.
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@openedone (240)
• France
22 Dec 06
education is the best way 4 begining
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@sharone74 (4837)
• United States
23 Dec 06
I used to teach pole dancing for fitness at Bally's in No Ho while I was working at the Venus Faire that was tons of fun. Bally's not the 'Faire.
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@Ravenladyj (22904)
• United States
23 Dec 06
No Ho as in North Hollywood?? Sorry just curious, one of my best friends lives there (in north hollywood) Have you considered starting your own poledancing/fitness/learn to exotic dance for your man type biz?? or is that already a big thing out your way..that type of biz actually ahs TONS of potential as far as expansion is concerned....LOL I have tons of ideas when it comes to that stuff, its actually what I'd like my next biz to be (part of it)
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@Ravenladyj (22904)
• United States
23 Dec 06
You should seriously consider it! without a doubt...they had a roaming class coming out my way and a friend of mine and her gfs were goin to do it (I think it was a one day thing) and they were willing to pay $75 EACH for a 2 hr class I think it was I was like WHAT? HELL PAY ME $35 EACH AND I'LL TEACH YOU ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW! LOL
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@birthlady (5609)
• United States
22 Dec 06
I agree with the first post: go back to school. Start part time. Get a degree. As a college student, you will be able to observe "normie" behavior, pick and choose what you desire to emulate, throw the rest away! By the way, you can go to community college (2 year) without a high school diploma; and concurrent earn an AA/HS diploma and work on your transfer units as well. You are obviously articulate. Don't bother with anyone who tells you to get a GED. That's the lesser way. Earn your credits, you'll meet people from around the world, all backgrounds. You can even go to school with your daughter!
@sharone74 (4837)
• United States
23 Dec 06
I am currently in the second quarter of classes at Univ. of Phoenix online studying an AA in Information Technology but as I am attending school online I am missing that important component of higher education which is social interaction.
@mbs730 (2147)
• Canada
22 Dec 06
Congrats for having the desire to turn your life around as that is very tough. I admire you for that. But I have to agree with the other posters, go back to school. Take a business course or something... that will help you get back on track. Best of luck to you.
@sharone74 (4837)
• United States
23 Dec 06
My fiancee works at my local junior college which is one of the reasons that I chose not to attend classes there but online instead.
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• United States
23 Dec 06
Totally understandable.
• United States
23 Dec 06
I hardly would call it turning her life around. There is not a thing wrong with the adult entertainment industry. But I agree that education and a "day job" is the best place to start. If a girl can run around dressed in nothing and smile at ugly men like they mean it, a girl can get through "real" life no sweat. If it's money you need, try serving. Tips are good if you get into the right place, and you won't have the need to spend so much money on make-up, tanning, hairspray and costumes. It evens out. Take a couple classes at your local junior college and between that and serving, your social skills will sky rocket. Guaranteed.
• United States
23 Dec 06
Continue to pursue your education & read, read, read non-stop. Maybe even join a bookclub or something. Just surrounding yourself with academic minded people can be a rewarding experience.
@sharone74 (4837)
• United States
27 Dec 06
I do and I am a member of several book clubs but thank you very much for your response this is a good suggestion. My fiancee' having been in the educational field for over 20 years and surrounding me with academie is why I chose to go back to school.
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• United States
22 Dec 06
I agree with others about taking some classes. I sometimes teach at the Learning Annex in New York City and there are a lot of different classes and people who take the classes if you don't want to go back to "school" per se. The other thing that I teach in my classes is the power of OBSERVATION, both yourself and others. Hang back and watch how it goes and take what you like and leave the rest. There are a lot of not-nice people in society so if you see people who have what you want, follow them and leave the rest alone. Good luck.
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@sharone74 (4837)
• United States
23 Dec 06
That is very good advice thank you.
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• India
22 Dec 06
Yes. Education would be a great start. And start with small time jobs, it will establish you socially. Start interacting with more and more people, that'll help.
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@sharone74 (4837)
• United States
23 Dec 06
I have been.I semi retired a year ago then went back and now I have been retired for just over 7 mos but I don't get out of the house much so I do not get a lot of social interaction.
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• Canada
23 Dec 06
I've never thought of changing your lifestyle as "converting" before. :) I think you might need to learn a little bit about yourself - who you are and what is important to you. I'm only hypothesizing here as I've never worked in the adult industry, but is it possible that you've spent so many years acting out what other people wanted that you're not sure what your desires are? If you're only 32 and you've been working for 15 years, you started so incredibly young that your own personality and sense of self might not have even been shaped. Again, I could be totally off base, and please tell me if I am! Take as much time as you need to get to know yourself! Taking those online courses is a great idea (an congrats on your marks!!) as is trying new hobbies, going new place, meeting new people, etc. What kind of social group are you in now? What kinds of things does your fiance do? All these people can give you ideas of what to try. But the most important thing is to listen to YOURSELF and what you want. :) ~Wyrdsister
@onesiobhan (1327)
• Canada
22 Dec 06
In my experience norms aren't all that different. Be yourself. And if you can laugh at yourself as well you'll find that most people will accept you just fine. Good luck!
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@juls2me2 (2150)
• United States
22 Dec 06
I have to agree. Just be who you desire to be...forget all the labels and just be "REAL".
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@sharone74 (4837)
• United States
23 Dec 06
I have spent so many years putting on and taking off faces that I am not quite sure Who "real" me is. I joined the industry in my formative years at age 14.
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• Canada
23 Dec 06
Never judge a book by it's cover, try to be nice to everyone you meet and remember they're name. It's all about networking. I think you will find that over time, if a lot of people know you as a genuine person, and not the people that know you as the "La vita loca" girl, your social life will become more mainstream. Just some thoughts.
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• India
23 Dec 06
sorry to disaapoint u but to be honest..i just don't know what social dance is..and though I am younger the advice I would like to give u is that stop worrying about others and try and keep urself happy..sometime we care too much about people around us and in efforts to keep them happy we forget that the first one to smile should be "ME" and thats the only way u can spread smiles all around..hope it makes sense..
@isha900 (1459)
• India
23 Dec 06
yes this is right dont take any tantion if we take tantion so we cant do any work perfectly we always think about this after that resut is that ur age have gone so pls analysis ur positive thing ok
@anne_143god (5387)
• Philippines
23 Dec 06
I also agree with the first post that you should go back and study about the things you want to learn then you will be successful.
@sharone74 (4837)
• United States
23 Dec 06
I am studying very hard in my classes but they do not have a class that applies to what I am wanting to learn about social interaction. Though one of the next two classes that I am taking next is Cultural Diversity.
• United States
27 Dec 06
Does your online college offer Interpersonal Communications? I think that might be the class you're looking for.
@harivinod (781)
• India
23 Dec 06
i think u should change ur career to some thing else
@sharone74 (4837)
• United States
23 Dec 06
Duh! Reread my origional post please!
@idrob2006 (317)
• Indonesia
23 Dec 06
You can start taking diploma classes or something like that as a part time student first. You can continue your current job, while you are studying. then after you think you are ready, start looking for other jobs. Good luck!!
@sharone74 (4837)
• United States
23 Dec 06
I am now seven months into my retirement and am again job seeking but I have been working at regular jobs for this entire period. There is a bit of culture shock there and people when they find out what you used to do for a living act funny. Men turn into wolves or dogs and women become stanoffish. And it doesn't really look good on applications and resumes. "Escort and Gentleman's club stripper."
• India
23 Dec 06
cm`n sharone(its ur name i suppose),u dnt need 2change urself 4nebdy,juz b urslf.......u r unique in ur own way........acceptin ur lif lik this realy requires sum guts nd dis puts u above all dat `normie` stuff u call.......if u wanna change ur occupn its well n gud bt dnt change urslf.........njoy evry bit of ur lif,alwyz listen 2ur heart........dats wat lif is all abt!!!!!!!!!
@sharone74 (4837)
• United States
27 Dec 06
You are very right and I don't need to change myself for anyone. It is just that I get uncomfortable when people ask me socially about my old life and my old job because I can see them looking down their noses at me and by association my fiancee' who doesn't deserve to be looked down on because of his choice in mate.
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@James72 (26790)
• Australia
23 Dec 06
New location..... New friends..... New interests..... Reinvent yourself! If you take the chance and start all over somewhere new you are given the opporunity to be whoever you want to be!
@Kackie3 (345)
• United States
23 Dec 06
This is a wonderful idea. That way you could get a job just about anywhere, and have no fear of running into someone from your previous life and hangouts. Get rid of all those reminders. Sort of reborn. But never forget what experiences you have learned already at what you do, there is nothing wrong with how you make your living, a lot of people need to make changes in their life. You are no different, and you will make it just fine.