How do I get this looser away from my Mother?

United States
January 5, 2007 2:01am CST
I really cannot understand what my Mother is thinking. Sixteen years ago my father passed away suddenly. He was a great man and we all miss him. After a very adequate mourning period of five years my Mother decided she was too young to be alone and wanted to find someone to share her life with. My siblings and I were very supportive of her decision and were happy that she was moving forward with her life. Our Mother is a very strong woman, she owns her own business and makes a very nice living for herself. Unfortunately, her choice of men does not match her intelligence in other areas. She has been with a man now on and off for the past 10 years. I say on and off because you never really know the next time she will kick him out of the house. He is not good to her, he has no real assets and has openly told her that he needs to better himself so they need to marry. He is loud and screams in her face "to get his point across". He has made comments to us kids that are unforgivable. Each time she has him leave she tells us all the horrible things he has said and done. But as soon as she lets him back in we are suppose to forgive and forget. None of us want her to marry this man that is 10 years younger than her. We have tried talking with her, have excluded him from family events and tell her there is no way we can forgive him, we point out the things she has told us. But she still keeps acting as if we are the irrational party. He has given her deadlines at which time they are to marry but acts as if this is his investment and he can't walk away from it easily. Can any of you help me with this?
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@simplegal (123)
• Philippines
5 Jan 07
I don't think you can do something about it. I experienced that before when my father remarried to a woman as young as my eldest brother. After all dicussions, my father still married the girl and now they're separated with 1 kid. You can do all the things you can think of but the decision will be your mother's. If that happens, just accept it. That's life.
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• United States
5 Jan 07
Thank for your comments. I know I am not alone in this department but I was hoping for a little more "Hope" on the subject. Maybe someone out there found something that worked.:)
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• Canada
6 Jan 07
This is so hard. You love your mother and want her to be safe, secure and happy but she's making choices that you can't live with. Don't get hung up on the age difference, if possible. That's the least of your worries. My husband (to whom I've been married for 3 years now) is 12 years younger than I am (while my ex was the same age as me). We are really, really happy. Don't assume that your mother needs a man of her same age. She might well be happy with a younger man. BUT! Having said that, I fully understand your concerns with this "on and off" guy. In all honesty, he sounds abusive. As others have said, you can't tell your mom she can't be involved with this guy and you won't be successful if you try to find her a "replacement man." As you've seen, she may just find reasons not to like the guys you suggest. Ultimately, I think the best you can do is to urge your mother to protect herself. She needs to be sure that she has her business affairs set up in such a way that this man cannot have access to them. You said she makes a good living but this guy has no assets to contribute to the relationship. Try to explain to her that YOU don't want her money but you would also like her to take control and make sure that HE doesn't gain control of what she has worked hard to build. Maybe if your mother sees that you are generally concerned about her personal welfare versus just "not liking the guy she's with," you might find she will become more willing to listen to your other concerns.
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• United States
6 Jan 07
Thank you so much for your sincere thought out response. Unfortunately that is how most of this got started. All we did was talk with her and explain that she needed to protect herself and asked her to really consider a prenup before marriage. We explained to her that they are not two young kids starting out with nothing. In this initial conversation we did not state our opinion of him being a gold digger, even though we had our thoughts. She did listen and did agree but when she spoke with him about the idea he spent the next fee months convincing her that her children were only worried about our inheritance not in her well being. After being told day in and day out I think she folded into believing him to some point. Now there is no talk over any sort of prenup he claims he has to have a marriage for their relationship to work, although he openly tells her she is no good with money and that he will have to take over the expenses.(This is a big joke, she is excellent with money) It is so frustrating, but I will be there to pick her up when the pieces fall because she is my Mother and I will take care of her no matter where her mistakes take her. So far she says her gut feeling prevents her from marrying him I just hope he doesn't win. As far as their age difference goes, if he made her truly happy it would not bother me but as it is now I truly beg her that if they are to marry not to let him be the decision maker over any medical events that may occur. It is important that he does not have the power to do anything such as put her in a nursing home. She is only 68 and he already talks about her as if she needs someone to look after her because she is aging. Thanks again
• United States
6 Jan 07
Thank you so much your response almost made me cry. I talk with my friends, my family and my husband about this so much I know they are as exhausted as I am over the whole thing. You really seem to understand and I really appreciate your advice. Thank you again and I will try speaking with her again about protecting herself in a none judgemental way of course.
• Pakistan
5 Jan 07
i think u ppl must clearly tel ur mom tht if she takes this step u r no more wth her coz u cant c som outsider person gettin abusiv n rude etc wth her all the time...n she must give herself som space tro think over it n find a better man for the purpose of a happy life,,..best of luck
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• United States
5 Jan 07
Believe me when I say over the past ten years we have tried this avenue, tried and failed miserably. We never want our Mother to feel as if she is alone. This is her biggest fear. I really think she stays with him because she is afraid that if she doesn't she wont find anyone else. It is pretty sad really, my mother is a beautiful and successful woman that could have any man she put her mind to getting but after being with this man and him point out every little fault she has, she now doubts those abilities. Thanks for your comments..
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• Thailand
6 Jan 07
this is a very tough situation... your mother is not strong enough to withstand her own rush of feelings.. this man.. if he's really that way.... then he's no good for ANYONE... you will have to voice your opinion assertively.. and.. the worst case... get rid of him by any means necessary... well.. avoid taking his life though... make him feel he don't belong here...maybe doing some dirty things to make him embarrassed everyday.. or something... do something evil.. but.. keep in mind... as you're doing it... be careful of him taking revenge on you..
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• United States
6 Jan 07
Funny you would say that because we all know he is only about the $$. My brother had a suggestion: he lives quite a few states away and he was going to call him up and tell him he won the lotery and ask him how much money he would need to walk away from our Mother, he would record his response of course. But the sad thing is I truly feel even if she heard it she wouldn't let herself believe it he has this really strange hold on her and a way of convincing her that he is always right. But thank you and we will keep trying..
@jenbatres (799)
• United States
7 Jan 07
You aren't going to like my answer, but you need to let your mother make her own mistakes, even he ends up talking every penny she has. If you have already tried talking to her and she has not ever heard your point, there is no point trying anymore. Just let her learn from her own mistakes. Best of Luck to you
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• United States
7 Jan 07
Thanks for your thoughts. It is not that I don't like your answer and I have in fact heard it before but at the age of 68 it would be really hard for her to start over and him taking her for every penny is exactly one of the things I am afraid of. If that happened what would she do?
@badpenny (741)
• Lancaster, Texas
6 Jan 07
Honey, I feel for you. Unfortunately, your mother has to reach her own conclusions about this man. All you can really do is remind yourself this is not your fault, and not your responsibility. By the same token, if it were you, and your mother was trying to make your decision for you, how would you feel? Just keep being supportive, and if all else fails, kill the man with kindness. No sense lowering your personal standards for him.
• United States
6 Jan 07
Thank you for your response but the killing him with kindness has been tried and I failed miserably. It is hard to be nice to a man that later tells you, he cannot stand you or your children. He really knows how to hit below the belt and is the king of niceness when he is trying to get back in. His game is much better than mine. Thanks again for the sincere response it means a lot.
@caribe (2465)
• United States
6 Jan 07
As you said your mother lost your father and now she has invested ten years of her life off and on with this man. Even though she knows in her heart that she shouldn't be with this man, she probably is very hesitant to lose yet another man in her life even though he is abusive. With you and the other children fighting her decision to be with him, she is probably so busy defending him that she is not really examining the facts herself. My advice would be to lay off and stop making her defend him so she will have a chance to see what he is really like. When everything is said and done, she has the right to chose whoever she wants. Be there for her and support her, but don't keep her on the defensive all the time. The more you push her, the more she will want to show you that she can do what she wants.
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• United States
6 Jan 07
Thanks and I have really been trying to do that as of lately. He has just returned again a week ago now after a whole 2 day break up. Sometimes I think she just really likes it when he kisses her butt...This is all I can really make of it.
@Meljep (1666)
• United States
6 Jan 07
Your mother is an adult and therefore responsible for her decisions. If you are close to your mother you might suggest that she deserves better than someone who screams in her face. Hopefully she will find someone who will treat her well.
• United States
7 Jan 07
Thanks for your response. I am very close to my mother and have tried talking with her many many times.
@EvrWonder (3571)
• Canada
6 Jan 07
We can not make people do anything for one. This is a tuff situation and I feel the frustration. There is a problem with this picture and until your Mom figures it out and makes the connection she will continue to choose men that treat her like crap. This guy sounds like a super looser and I am sorry. I hope she doesn't marry him and from what I have read, if she hasn't already she probably wont. Suggestion: Encourage your Mom by always being positive, do things with her that is fun, laugh with her, always speak positive things. Engage in activities and conversation with her with the utmost respect. Teach by example. Perhaps then when she is around him she will see how much of a looser he is. It would be great if your Mom realized that there is better out there. She sounds like a good woman too so perhaps try to instill in her how worthy she really is and deserves much much better. Good Luck!
• United States
7 Jan 07
Thank you I really appreciate your thoughts and will try to take your advice to heart. I just wish I could find someone to sweep her off her feet because I know she would be willing to leave him for good if she had another "mans" shoulder to lean on. She is very old school and for some reason feels less than whole without a man on her arm. Thanks again for the very thoughtful response.
@cupidboy (140)
• India
7 Jan 07
i dont think that you have any solution to this problem. all you can do is keep convincing your mother because the final decision is going to be your mother's. but till then i suggest that you kids be away from him and boycott him from the family
• United States
7 Jan 07
Thank you! I very much agree with your advice.:)
• United States
6 Jan 07
well first your mom is a grown women and you cannot necessarily get this guy away from her.if she did not want to be with this man then she would leave him for good.you may not like this man but your mom obviously does she is a grown women and can take care of herself let her make her own decisions.so their is nothing that you really can do its your moms choice not yours.
• United States
6 Jan 07
Thank you for your response. I have heard this before but maybe I should explain what I see a little clearer. He is mean to her, she was married to a wonderful supporting man for 34 years and does not deserve to be treated this way. I seriously don't understand because as soon as he leaves she sees and points out all the wrongs he has done to her and to her children and grandchildren yet when he returns she has forgotten and has even told us we are lying that she never said that. It is just so hard to see her go through this and I want to help.
@usman400 (1587)
• Pakistan
6 Jan 07
Well u just be strict with ur current behavior, a better but cheap thing is, you try to critisze that man face to face so that he will develope more hate with you, and hence xploit this to show ur mom that this is not going to happen !
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• United States
7 Jan 07
Thank you for your response and your advice. I could try this but I am really not a vindictive person so it would not be easy for me to critisize and be I guess mean to anyone. I really do not want to stoop to his level, wish I could but I will not change my personality. Thanks again...
• Philippines
6 Jan 07
It seems like you've done everything you could just to make your mother realize that she the man she's with is a total loser. I think she needs a new diversion in her life a new activity that she could engaged in to take her time and thoughts away from the man she is with now. I understand how you feel because we were on the same boat.My mother dated a man who was half her age for quite a while and the guy doesn't even a job.What my siblings did was they let her stay with them, then she got reconnected with her churchmates now she is active again in her church and forgot about the guy completely.Your mother needs to find a new intersting activity that would take away her thoughts and time with that guy.
• United States
7 Jan 07
Thank you for your response. My mother is very active in fact it is hard to find her with a free moment but because this man of 58 has not worked in over 25 years he has nothing better to do with his time than follow her around and do each activity with her. Of which she mostly pays for everything. She tries to hide this fact but I have noticed it more than once. He never picks up the bill after they go out to eat he just leaves it sit there and waits for her to get it. But it even goes further than that and I try to show her how wrong this is, she is such a giving person she just keeps giving to him. But when he does leave she explodes about all the money she spends on him and how cheap he is. So we know the truth. It is not like he does not have any money. For one he lives off her and the only bills he has are minimal to say the least. He receives compensation for his back injury every month which is a nice sum of money, or so he tells us. Thanks again for your well thought our advice.
@kefkaix (33)
• United States
6 Jan 07
When People Grow Emotionally attached it becomes harder and harder to drive them apart, its sad to say, but most women who are physically abused by thier husbands actually defend thier husband. And by the way you act its more of mental abuse then physical abuse, but she probably thinks of him as some form of protection or some way to relieve herself, or atleast for a comparison stand point, but it sort of makes me curious how they initially met. Maybe she was emotionally sensitive at the time and she saw him as a helping hand?
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• United States
7 Jan 07
Great insight. Thank you for your response. He is thankfully not her husband as of yet but they met at a singles dance and yeah she was emotionally sensitive at the time because she had just started dating again. He was really the first guy she was with sense my father passed and I do believe she is terrified to be alone again. But how do I help her? Any advice for me?
@hazydazy (783)
• United States
6 Jan 07
She is just lonely. She does not want to be alone. Maybe you could try to introduce her to someone that is more kind and caring. Show her she is better than him and deserves much more than he can ever offer. Try to be as supportive as possible and don't shut her out.
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• United States
6 Jan 07
Thank you. You have so seen my problem with this. I don't want to lose my Mother to him I value our relationship way to much. I have tried fixing her up on a couple dates but nothing stuck. Thanks again.
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@onesiobhan (1327)
• Canada
6 Jan 07
Unfortunately people make their own decisions. If she's been with him for 10 years he's giving her something that she values. All you can do is limit your own interactions with him.
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• United States
6 Jan 07
Thank you for your response I am just so tired of the whole thing that I know I am involving myself too much and working there everyday does not help matters.
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@aquilavn (59)
• Vietnam
6 Jan 07
I know what do you think. I am also in the same situation as you. I think you should talk more with your parents and you will understand each other.
• United States
7 Jan 07
Sorry to hear you are going through the same thing that me and my siblings are going through. That's just it I am out of idea's. Thanks for the response and best of luck to you also.