Why do Christians push gay people away?

@cyntrow (8524)
United States
March 4, 2007 4:58pm CST
I want to start by saying that I am a Christian. I follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and I think that he was smack on, regarding how we should treat one another. Here is my problem. I often hear Christians talk about how homosexuality is a sin. I don't agree with this assesment. I think they are misintrepreting scripture. But that is just my opinion. My problem is that Jesus, the man you claim to follow, walked among the dregges of society. He called them friend. If you claim to follow Christ, why do you push away the very people you believe most need your help? Sorry, to all gay people who don't wish to be prostilized to. I just want to know the motivation. Why push people away from God, if you feel they need God most? Any answers???
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24 responses
4 Mar 07
I wonder the same thing, i think its seen as a sin because it is impossible to have a typical stereotypical family which is what christian life is like ((so what ive been told but i could be wrong)) also i think its because the whole concept of having a child to make the world grow is not possible because obviously you need sperm and egg to create a child and you cant get that from a gay couple, but this is obviously my opinions and i may have got my facts wrong so please correct me if im wrong. But i do think that gay couples should be accepted.
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@cyntrow (8524)
• United States
4 Mar 07
I don't think you are wrong. My brother and his partner are raising 3 kids and they are exceptionally happy healthy kids. My brother is content in his spirituality and he believes that God loves him as he is and so do I. I just wonder how Christian people can try to push God away from people like my brother. Thanks for your response.
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@Ravenladyj (22937)
• United States
5 Mar 07
I wonder the same thing myself and not just with the gay community but with ALL communities that differ from Christianity....Why do many of them (Christians) push others who live differently away? I honestly think its fear of something new, different, the unfamiliar and so on...which is a shame because as far as I see it..if you push away soemthing that differs from you then all you are doing is living in a cage/box etc...you are denying yourself wonderful opportunties adn experiences, you are denying yourself the chance to have possibly some truly amazing ppl in your life and so on....I also think that some (Christians) feel that if they were to behave more acceptingly then they'd be betraying their religion and god..which I think they are mistaken about and i also think god (any god) cant be too thrilled with the way ppl are treated in his/her name...
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• United States
5 Mar 07
I agree with you, and I am so thrilled to know that there is another Christian out there such as myself that seems like a real honest to God CHRISTIAN. That makes me so happy. I don't understand why Christians push gay people away. Jesus was a man that loved everyone. he taught other people to love each other. He didn't teach, "Love everyone, but hate the homosexuals!!" That's not how it is. And it upsets me that people take a couple scriptures out and use that, instead of taking to heart what Jesus taught us.
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@cyntrow (8524)
• United States
6 Mar 07
I agree. I think that in attempting to live their lives for the hereafter, many Christians have forgotten about the here and now. Jesus taught us to look to our fellow man, not toward the heavens.
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@lauriefnp (5112)
• United States
6 Mar 07
I am so tired of people hiding their hatred, evil, and discrimination behind the shield of religion. I agree that there are mentions of homosexuality in the Bible and that they could be interpreted to mean that homosexuality is a sin. But I also feel that if an open-minded Christian were to read the same scriptures it COULD be interpreted in a different way. The Bible is a book written by man; it is heresay, and is subject to human error and interpretation. I believe it is a guide, but it can have many meanings. Everyone who wants to has the right to be loved and accepted by God. I am Christian also, and I believe that we should be tolerant of all people, no matter what their diversities are. We don't have to "love" everything about every person or group, but it is our duty to God to accept people and to try to live in harmony without hatred and discrimination. All people deserve to live in peace and to be happy. Happiness includes sharing your life with someone you love, and if that happens to be someone of the same gender, then it is not wrong. Love is never wrong in the eyes of God. I would welcome and support any gay person who wanted to worship at my church and praise the same God that I do. I feel that God would also welcome them. We are all his children. There are many sins mentioned in the Bible that are conveniently overlooked by those who throw stones at gays. When those people can honestly say that they have never committed any of those sins, then they can start talking about homosexuality being a sin. Since none of us are perfect, it stands to reason that we are all welcome in the Christian religion.
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@charms88 (7541)
• Philippines
5 Mar 07
Hello cyntrow, I'm a devout christian myself and I also happened to have a gay friend. I have never seen a more compassionate person than this gay friend of mine. People can have their own perception about homosexuality. As a christian, I know it is a sin. But as a christian also, I was taught to respect other people, no matter the size, the shape or any form. Happy posting!!!
• United States
5 Mar 07
Let me say this first, not all Christians believe like that. However, according to the teachings in the Bible homosexuality is not appropriate. Then again it also says not to judge and that we must forgive. This is one of the many contradictions in the Bible that makes me believe that the Bible is not to be trusted 100%. I mean let's think about this. The Bible has been passed on and translated by MAN for centuries. How can we be 100% sure that was is known as the Bible today is what GOd wants us to hear? Now, I don't mean to sound like I don't love God because I do. However, I also believe that the Bible has been tarnished and I have faith that God is and will lead me in the right direction. As for the motivation behind the way some Christians treat anyone different then what they are taught (not just gays), it is plain and simple FEAR. They have been taught that if they associate with these people that they will be punished severely. This is the way the CHURCH of today seems to act on the whole. It is a shame and a travesty. However, God is in you and all around you. Lift a stone and He is there. Split a piece of wood and you will find Him. He is not in mansions of wood and stone.
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@kathy77 (7488)
• Australia
5 Mar 07
Firstly I am a christian as well and have a lot of friends that are homosexuals but in the eyes of christianity these people are not accepted into the christianity as it is a sin to be a homosexual. I agree with this assessment as God made man, and from this he took Adam's rib and created Eve, that is why we have man and woman as Adam wanted a partner now if God intended it to be ok to be homosexual then he would of created another man.
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@cyntrow (8524)
• United States
6 Mar 07
People are born gay. It is not a sin to be born as you are.
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• United States
6 Mar 07
No one is born gay. It is a sin and a mental illness.
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• United States
6 Mar 07
No one is born gay. It is a sin and a mental illness.
@Springlady (3986)
• United States
6 Mar 07
We shouldn't push them away any more than we should push anyone else away. We are all sinners. Yes, I believe homosexuality is a sin. The Bible clearly says that it is. Jesus loves all of us inspite of our sin. He hates sin, because that separates us from God. But He is so willing to forgive anyone who comes to Him and repents. He will help those who want to live for Him.
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@Thomas73 (1467)
• Switzerland
6 Mar 07
You see, Springlady, this is what makes the difference between a god-freak like you and a reasonable believer like Laurie above. You just spurt out nonsense that you don't even understand yourself, whereas Laurie gives an honest opinion based on what she truly feels. And no, I'm not hateful, or angry, or anything. I just wish you'd go and give your Jesus a bl0wj0b somewhere else. You're simply obscene.
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• United States
6 Mar 07
Thomas, You are an angry and bitter person. I am telling the love of God and yes, homosexuality is a sin and so is lying, cheating, stealing, murder and many others. I will hold fast to my Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. May God be with you.
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@marzenna (253)
6 Mar 07
And why homosexuality is a sin?
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@MrNiceGuy (4147)
• United States
5 Mar 07
Well, teh Bible is extremely clear that homosexuality is wrong, there really is no interpretation about it (except maybe wondering if it is out dated). But I think Christians are against homosexuals since they are living in sin and Christians see that as unacceptable. A homosexual is a sinner that is living in sin, not possibly repenting, which isn't forgivable according to the Bible (you have to ask for forgiveness and stop sinning first).
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@Myrrdin (3601)
• Canada
5 Mar 07
There are many things the bible is clear on as being a sin, eating pork is a sin yet every day pork chops are eaten by many a christian. Over eating in general is a sin, but there are plenty of obese christians, even a few obese ministers/priests. People who overeat or eat pork in general are also living in sin are they not?
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@urbandekay (18312)
5 Mar 07
Actually Jesus overturns the restriction on eating pork all the best urban
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@azriel (2108)
• Philippines
5 Mar 07
And Jesus Himself has no comment with regards to homosexuality. Weird isn't it? Azriel
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@Julie80 (67)
• Italy
5 Mar 07
jesus said "love and do whatever you want"..if you love you don't kill,you don't cheat,you don't do anything wrong. I'm a christian myself,but I don't push away anyone and don't see other christians doing it.
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• United States
5 Mar 07
did Jesus really say "love and do whatever you want"?
• United States
6 Mar 07
No, Jesus did not say "Love and do whatever you want." I hope that was a typo! Jesus most definately commanded us to love one another as He has loved us.
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@Jemina (5783)
5 Mar 07
HI Cyntrow, first I want to remind you that not all Christians do that. Only some, okay? And I think that whatever religion you choose gays are not readily accepted whether you're Muslim, or Buddhist, or Hindu. I think among them the Christian is the most flexible compared to the other religion I mentioned.
@Jemina (5783)
7 Mar 07
Well, maybe we have a vague definition of Christianity then. If you say you're a Christian then you're supposed to follow Jesus Christ's example, right? Some people in fact many of them profess to be a Christian but only by name not in action. Many times I find myself guilty of this.
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@cyntrow (8524)
• United States
8 Mar 07
I am beginning to feel that there are very few Christians that actually adhere to the teachings of Jesus instead of the Old Testement and the preaching of the Apostle Paul. If a person proclaims to follow Jesus, they need to see what he taught and what he said. Only then will we gain enlightenment. He was the ultimate activist on behalf of the everyday man.
@islaneni (129)
• Armed Forces Pacific
7 Mar 07
i am a christian & to be honest i don't know why some people push them away...i for one don't...i believe & taught not to judge people...yes in the bible it states it is a sin...but i as a person will not judge that sin...i am not the one to judge & the bible states that too...to everyone will stand at judgement day gay or not...but with sin...sin has no category...the fact it is a sin...but it is not i to point out your sin...i am a sinner...but yet GOD loves me...GOD hates the sin, but loves the sinner...so with that i will treat everyone the way i want to be treated...i as a christian has a sister-in-law & a brother-in-law who are gay & one left the marriage for what they choose...i love them & will continue to love them...i have many friends who has chosen their paths & i continue to love them & if they want to hear the word of GOD...then they will...they will hear that HE loves them sin & all...if GOD can forgive the sin...then i can...for he who has never sin cast the first stone...
• United States
7 Mar 07
Awesome post islaneni! Very well said! We are to love everyone just as Jesus loves us all. God bless.
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@Pigglies (9339)
• United States
5 Mar 07
I don't get that either. I'm a lesbian and an atheist, but I still have some knowledge of the Bible. And it seems to me if people think we're sinners, they should still want to be around us if they want to be like Christ. However, if someone wanted to be my "friend" in hopes of changing me, well, they could just forget it. So I guess I don't want Christians to be all buddy buddy with me either. But I'm sick and tired of them all up in my face.
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@cyntrow (8524)
• United States
7 Mar 07
Yeah, that was my thing too. Gay people don't want to be preached to. But the fact still remains, if you claim to follow Jesus, why do you do what he wouldn't do. If you think gays are the worst sinners, why would you try to hold them back.
@Myrrdin (3601)
• Canada
5 Mar 07
I often wonder this myself. I am not a Christian, primarily because I have read the bible and find it so full of contradictions and the fact that so few Christians actually listen to what the Bible claims are sins while decrying the sins they agree are sins. To me either the Bible must be followed to the letter our you admit it is open to interpretation. Even if you want to follow it to the letter Homosexuals should not be pushed away from Christianity but pulled towards it in order to teach them "the errors of their ways". Not that I agree with that either. To me everyone should live by "Live and Let Live"
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@livewyre (2455)
5 Mar 07
Sadly, you are right, Christians need to learn the Bible and it is a hard task for most people. The church does not live up to it's own teachings, but then it is made up of humans who are less than perfect... This does not invalidate the Bible or the life of Christ in any way though. The church struggles to get the balance right, with some denominations actually ordaining openly gay clergy whilst others decry homosexuals like they were lepers. If more Christians read the Bible, the world might be a better place, never mind the non-Christians...
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@marzenna (253)
5 Mar 07
Thank you for bringing this up. Personally I do not believe in Jesus as a god, but I absolutely agree that he was teaching love to others. I feel sad that some Christians do not understand that.
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@cyntrow (8524)
• United States
7 Mar 07
I agree. I think that most Christians do not adhere to the teachings of Jesus. They are much more intune to the teachings of Leviticus in which the Bible was attempting to teach the levite priests how to keep the Jewish race pure and clean. The Aposolte Paul reiterated these words in his letters to the Romans. They ignore the teachings of Jesus, the man they proclaim to follow. He spoke not of homosexuals at all. Instead he spoke of love for one's fellow human being.
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• United States
5 Mar 07
Why do they do it? Probably because most people who read the bible pick and choose what they like. It's what they beleive. That has been my experiance with anybody that reads and "follows" the bible. If they think something is right they follow it. If not then they kind of push that part under the rug. Even if it contradicts what they choose to follow. Just like the examples you gave.
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@Melizzy (1381)
• United States
5 Mar 07
I agree with you. The minute someone starts telling me I am going to burn in the afterlife or that I am sinning, they are sinning as well. They are suddenly no better off than I am. They are exhibiting the very thing they say i am doing.
@MsTickle (24993)
• Australia
5 Mar 07
The hypocrisy of so called Christians floors me. They have this attitude..I'm a christian and God loves me. I'm not the brightest crayon in the box and I question my faith almost daily but the one thing that I remember above all else is that God loves the sinner but not the sin. We're supposed to love everyone; thieves, murderers, rock spiders...it's not our place to judge. If one of these people collapsed at your front door, would you kick him out of the way or help him?
@azriel (2108)
• Philippines
5 Mar 07
Because we Christians are so hyped up with our own salvation that we tend to see things with closed eyes and read the Bible with closed minds. Literal thinking will not get us anywhere in the Bible, or on any other Holy Book for that matter. Some doesn't even read the Bible, but still profess knowledge about certain things base on what they have "heard". It's a sad fact of life, but unless people accept that they are in the wrong, there's very little that we can do about it. Ostracizing other people is a way for others to cope: Separate other people whose beliefs differs from us so that we may retain our identity is the common belief not just by Christians, but also by other religions as well. So, "Why do Christians push gay people away?" you ask? Simple. Because that's what people do to people/things/belief that they don't like-Christians and Non-Christians alike.
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• United States
5 Mar 07
I agree with you. God's main directive to us was to LOVE ONE ANOTHER. There is nothing loving about pointing judgmental fingers at other people. Whether or not homosexuality is a sin or not is not even an issue in my mind. Why? Because we all are sinners. Every single one of us. So what gives any of us the right to point a finger at someone ... just because his sin may be different than our sin? How pompous is that? God directs us to sow the seed of love... and leave the rest to Him. If God wants to convict someone of his sin, He will do it and He will do it in His good time. I am not worthy to take this on.
@charlesming (1866)
• Singapore
5 Mar 07
Just tell them, God taught us not to judge too. Isn't it? :)
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