You don't BELIEVE in God..... You either know God; or you don't.

@James72 (26829)
Australia
March 14, 2007 7:32am CST
I am not deeply religious, nor am I looking to bring the zealots from either end of the spectrum out of the woodwork on this one! I just read this response to the question of belief in God and found it very interesting. So does this mean that belief and faith have been surpassed by knowledge? Is knowledge like the PhD of faith when it comes to a belief in God?
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@Tetchie (2933)
• Australia
15 Mar 07
Is knowledge like the PhD of faith when it comes to a belief in God? Perhaps at the height of knowledge it would not be belief but experience that gives you that PhD. My understanding of belief and faith is more along the lines of second hand knowledge, it is not knowledge at all but someone else's opinion that you have taken as truth. Knowledge and faith are in conflict within this context. Belief and faith cannot be surpassed by knowledge, for it is not knowledge you have but belief.
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@James72 (26829)
• Australia
16 Mar 07
Fair enough point. But you can still attain knowledge without belief yes? Thanks for responding.
@Tetchie (2933)
• Australia
16 Mar 07
Yes absolutely. I'd advocate, myself, that it is through knowledge that belief occurs, but knowledge being experiential knowing and not text book knowledge.
• United States
16 Mar 07
Well, I'm not sure I understand the context. Is this referring to the strength of one's faith or is it a reference to an experience which can't be denied or...? I do believe it is possible to know God exists on an intellectual level. I used to think it had to be purely based on faith, but starting from a position of faith and studying to learn from that perspective has proved His existence to me on an intellectual basis as well.
@James72 (26829)
• Australia
16 Mar 07
It was just a statement I read in a book I have just completed. It was an atheist questioning a person that had a deep relationship with God and this was the response. So in terms of context I guess there could be multiple interpretations. My understanding of it was that God is not limited to a belief or faith, it is an inner knowledge or relationship that some share and other's don't. Personally I believe it takes a healthy dose of all three! Thanks for responding.
@salam1 (1475)
• Malaysia
15 Mar 07
I find that God is the absolute. God is who everything else other than Him depends on. He has no son as He is not a son of anybody. He is incomparable, the greatest over all. What do you think?
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@James72 (26829)
• Australia
16 Mar 07
The thing is, I am not 100% sure what I think! Although I am a Christian I also do not believe that there is one true faith. One God maybe but not one true faith! Once again, interpretation plays a major role. Thanks for responding.
• Philippines
15 Mar 07
Belief, faith and knowledge of God should go hand in hand. How could belief and faith stand alone without your proper knowledge of God? Belief and faith without knowledge is blind. And I don't believe in blind faith. Blind faith are faith sometimes passed on to you by your ancestors without question. You believe because your parents believe. Or because this is what was thought in school or from the religious order your parent were affiliated. You must quesiton the belief and faith that you have. Because other people will. And you must be ready to defend the faith. Belief and faith should pass the test of truth. And the truth is derived from knowledge.
@James72 (26829)
• Australia
16 Mar 07
Undoubtedly blind faith is extremely prevalent in that people grow into adults with heavy influences from their parent s and relatives etc It is human nature to question. Thanks for responding.
@jmp824 (741)
• Philippines
15 Mar 07
I do believe in God, my faith tells me that eventhough i wont have the chance to see him face to face, but i know deep within that Hes always around with me.
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@James72 (26829)
• Australia
16 Mar 07
Your faith is commendable! I guess we all must wait until iur time of passing to see what is what..... Thanks for responding.
• Philippines
15 Mar 07
"I believe in God the Father Almighty, Creator of Heaven and Earth..." Truly i believe in God, many of us seek for proof of God's existence. Are the things around us not the proof of His existence? Our world would be lifeless if not because of HIM, He created everything around us.. even a PhD of faith will not be surpass the faith of a true faithful, they study faith for the sake of "knowledge", but do they really have true faith?
@James72 (26829)
• Australia
15 Mar 07
I have posted before in reference to faith..... Personally I believe that faith should not be used as a substitute for pursuing knowledge; the two should go hand in hand. Your attitude towards God is commendable! Thanks for responding.
• Thailand
14 Mar 07
There is no way using logic and reason to prove the existence of God. I can use both to give you a strong argument against the existence of God but all I may be proving is that I am looking for God in the wrong place. I am not going to find him in my head but I might find him if I look in my heart.
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@James72 (26829)
• Australia
14 Mar 07
Well put! Sometimes we should just accept that some things are what they are and try to learn from these things and gain strength and inner wisdom from them also. Stop looking and just let it be! Thanks for responding.
• United States
14 Mar 07
I don't think anyone KNOWS God exists, but faith brings out this firm understanding of the possibility
@James72 (26829)
• Australia
14 Mar 07
Interestingly enough, the very same passage I read stated that the because we don't know for sure if God exists is proof that God actually does...... I am still trying to get my head around that one! Thanks for responding.