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myLot reputation of 91/100. dragonokiefly (537)   ranked 1,085 out of 26,920 in people 5 years ago

Yesterday while at the store I saw something that was kind of upset.

While walking around picking up food I noticed a young man, somewhere near 25 years old or so, in a power wheelchair also shopping. Several times he asked for help to reach things on a high shelf, everyone rushed to help him, including me.

I just happened to be behind him in the checkout lane, I helped him get his small lap-basket onto the belt and started to put my stuff up. As the cashier was scanning the guy's products, I watched in amazement this guy who was in the power wheelchair stand up, walk behind the chair and grab a big bag to carry his purchases in, then walk to the end of the belt and pack up the bag. He then walked back around the chair, placed the filled bag in place and walk to the credit card scanner to pay. He did not appear to have any difficulty walking and was actually bouncing on his toes waiting for his receipt. At this point I felt like shouting some to that fact what a lazy so-n-so he was making people come to his beck and call because we thought he was really having problems. But I did nothing but fume the whole way home. I personally feel that because of people like him some people won't help a true disabled person or look down upon them.

Why would someone fake this? It just doesn't make sense! Would you have said something or just kept silent like I did?

 

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1. myLot reputation of 95/100. twbigdogsgirl (1024)   5 years ago

I am afraid that I would have said something and made a huge scene in the store! My dad is disabled and has been since he was in his twenties. He has had to fight for every benefit he has ever gotten and for some jerk to take advantage of that just burns my butt! I have complained in stores when I see a perfectly healthy person with no disabled tag park in the disabled spot. I don't stand for that kind of behavior out of anyone.


myLot reputation of 70/100. Graymsqtech (501)   ranked 6,392 out of 26,920 in people  5 years ago

It is not important for you to engage the rule breaker but to inform the store and tell them if they condone this behavior you will not shop there. This will make them more vigilant. I have called these things to managements attention when I see it occurring.


myLot reputation of 91/100. dragonokiefly (537)   ranked 1,085 out of 26,920 in people  5 years ago

Your right, disabled people have to fight for every little benefit they have the right to receive. It isn't fair at all.

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2. myLot reputation of 95/100. MrsWickham1 (366)   ranked 3,025 out of 26,920 in people   5 years ago

That is horrible. I can't .. well I can believe it. People are just so lazy. When I was pregnant there were close parking spaces for expectant moms and I never used it unless I was really tired and just needed to run in and out. I think people who abuse things like this and pretend are the reason why people are skeptical about if they should help or not.


myLot reputation of 91/100. dragonokiefly (537)   ranked 1,085 out of 26,920 in people  5 years ago

I have never seen parking spot made just for pregnant women, that is so neat because Lord knows when you have a big old belly and a bad back walking great distances is a big effort.


myLot reputation of 99/100. Woodpigeon (2596)   ranked 216 out of 26,920 in people  5 years ago

We have those here in Ireland and I think you also get to use them if you have squeeling babies and mischevious toddlers :-)


myLot reputation of 95/100. rhinoboy (1353)   ranked 456 out of 26,920 in people  5 years ago

They're very common around the UK I think. Most supermarkets have them to make enough space so that you don't trash peoples cars when the kids fling open the doors or swing the buggies around their heads!


myLot reputation of 91/100. dragonokiefly (537)   ranked 1,085 out of 26,920 in people  5 years ago

Maybe I need to think about moving over there lol. I always make the kids stay in the car until I can get over to the other side to open the door. Last thing I need is an angry driver going postal on me for a little ding. It would be so much easier if cars were like mini vans, the doors slide so you don't ahve to worry about it.


myLot reputation of 95/100. MrsWickham1 (366)   ranked 3,025 out of 26,920 in people  5 years ago

back home in St. Louid they have them at almost every grocery store. HEre in Georgia only a few stores have it, but let me tell you I used them when I really needed it.

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3. myLot reputation of 97/100. lightningMD (5644)   ranked 516 out of 26,920 in people   5 years ago

Thats terrible. People should have to show there handi cap stickers to use those chairs. Just like you need for the parking spots. I probably wouldnt have said anything either. I'm pretty shy.


myLot reputation of 91/100. dragonokiefly (537)   ranked 1,085 out of 26,920 in people  5 years ago

This wasn't one of the powerchairs you can use in the store, this was a personal chair. Not a scooter chair either but the kind that can either be wheeled manually or with the little lever that is like a joystick.

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4. myLot reputation of 70/100. Graymsqtech (501)   ranked 6,392 out of 26,920 in people   5 years ago

This is horrible. I had a disabled wife and we couldnt shop in stores without her being able to use the carts. I would have to run inside and ensure one was available for her. This is the kind of abuse that hurts the disabled. The store should have been made aware of it. He should have been denied service and he should have been chastised. I agree with you. I also think the fines should be raised for those who abuse the disabled parking spaces. I believe they should suspend the license of such frauds. They are perpetrating fraud upon society.

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5. myLot reputation of 95/100. rhinoboy (1353)   ranked 456 out of 26,920 in people   5 years ago

That really is disgusting.I think it's actually more offensive to people who are stuck in wheelchairs and would give anything to be able to shop without help.

I don't think I could have resisted venting my spleen and drawing attention to him vie a stream of obscenity.
I need to chill a little though, so I'm off for a cup of tea and a rest in a shaded room!


myLot reputation of 91/100. dragonokiefly (537)   ranked 1,085 out of 26,920 in people  5 years ago

I agree, it does probably offend the people who are truly disabled. I'm sure they would do just about anything to be able to do everything for themselves.

A cup of tea and a shaded room?, huh maybe I'll have to try that one :-)


myLot reputation of 95/100. rhinoboy (1353)   ranked 456 out of 26,920 in people  5 years ago

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myLot reputation of 95/100. rhinoboy (1353)   ranked 456 out of 26,920 in people  5 years ago

I guess it touched a nerve!
Both of my parents are disabled, but can still walk. My mother can walk around to do her weekly shop, but normally stays in bed the following day, or can't get off the sofa much.
The abuse we've received for parking in disabled spaces and walking into the shop is unreal, so it annoys me even more when people really are faking it.

My wife and I were also shouted at by some delerious woman with 2 kids and a big 4x4 for taking the last "family" car parking space. I think she'd had one-too-many sherries in the afternoon as she didn't notice that my wife was waddling a little due to being 3 days past our daughter's due birth date!


myLot reputation of 91/100. dragonokiefly (537)   ranked 1,085 out of 26,920 in people  5 years ago

Maybe you should just stay in the shaded room for the rest of the day and instead of asking for just a cup ask for the whole kettle lol.

People have some nerve.. what did that woman think she deserved the space more? Sorry but a very pregnant lady that waddles should take precedent over a mother with screaming kids any day when it come to closer parking spots.

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6. myLot reputation of 97/100. susaneverson (4945)   5 years ago

I am a very upfront person and probably would have confronted him.
I broke nine vertebrea on my spine and have FOUGHT to stay out of a wheelchair!
This discussion in itself infuriates me, I wished I had have been there.
Sometimes when I am shoppong I will be too sore to actually walk through the entire store so will use a chair, but I don't ask for others help, I get in and out of the darn thing.
People offer a hand and I always thank them and let them know that I appreciate the hand, I would not dream to insult them, but I usually rise and get it myself to let them know I am not stuck there and am only using it as an aid.
I don't know if I am stateing this very well but I hope you can follow what I mean.
That guy let you and others believe he was stuck in a chair and you felt you were doing a good deed helping him in a way he could not manage.
When you got to the till and watched him BOUNCE on his toes it must have felt like a personal 'slap in the face'.
I hope that in the same situation you offer your help again because the next person may need your help.
I like best the people who ask if I need a hand before they just get it.
It allows me the opportunity to let them know that I still have use of my legs, I am just too sore to do it today, most people understand and I will notice them kind of keeping an eye on me in case I do need a hand.
Those people are really appreciated.
Oooo, it looks like I rambled, sorry. Susan


myLot reputation of 91/100. dragonokiefly (537)   ranked 1,085 out of 26,920 in people  5 years ago

I am so sorry that you have had to go through that pain.

I think most people feel the way you do, if I feel can possibly do it myself I am willing to at least try before asking for help or taking advantage of people.

Yes it was like a slap in the face, and yes I will continue to help others, it is just my nature. This just made me so mad but at this point I am not sure who I am more mad at him, the guy who faked it or myself for not saying a word.

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7. myLot reputation of 98/100. mamasan34 (4084)   ranked 146 out of 26,920 in people   5 years ago

I don't think I could have kept my mouth shut in this instance. I would have had to say something. How dare he do this? I know many disabled people, truly disabled people and for him to use these carts just because he is lazy just angers me to no end! Your right, people like him make it more difficult for others to be helped when they truly need the help. We become more hesitant to help someone because "what if they are faking?" Oh, that just makes me so mad!

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8. myLot reputation of 95/100. castleghost (1113)   ranked 208 out of 26,920 in people   5 years ago

I probrally would have asked the guy what his problem was. No one should take advantage of a situation like this. There are many people out there that truly need help but don't recieve it because of people like him who abuse such matters. It wouldn't cause me to stop helping others because you never really know who needs your help but it does make me look at a person twice before I do help them.

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9. myLot reputation of 99/100. Woodpigeon (2596)   ranked 216 out of 26,920 in people   5 years ago

I would have kept silent for one reason. I don't know why he was using the chair. There are some diseases, such as MS, where the person can walk, but for various reasons (fatigue, balance issues) chooses to save their energy, avoid falls and embarasment or whatever. They make look fine, but that may not be the case at all, even if he did bounce on his toes.

It did sound like he was milking it a bit, and trying to get people to fawn over him. I would have given him the benefit of the doubt, though.


myLot reputation of 91/100. dragonokiefly (537)   ranked 1,085 out of 26,920 in people  5 years ago

I suppose you could be right but it still upset me to think I had been duped. So now I don't feel as mad at myself for not saying anything.. thanks :-)


myLot reputation of 99/100. Woodpigeon (2596)   ranked 216 out of 26,920 in people  5 years ago

You just never know, you know? I got reamed for sitting in a disabled space with three people who were disabled but didn't appear to be. In the car you couldn't tell one had autism, and the other 2 were delayed, 1 of which had low vision and one wore orthopedic splints beneath his socks. Some old lady, who also looked just fine screamed at us, took down my license and threatened to report me for abusing a permit.

Ironically, I was sitting there filling out an incident report at the time which had to be turned in ASAP because the low vision one had just fallen, split her knee and I had only finsished patching her up. I'm just saying, looks can be quite deceptive. I turned the story in with the IR and never heard another thing about it if I was 'reported' for my 'abuse'.

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10. myLot reputation of 99/100. crazynurse (5813)   ranked 11 out of 26,920 in people   5 years ago

Although I really get irate when folks fake an illness or use services that they do not qualify for, I am reluctant to act in haste in a situation such as the one you saw. He was either just being a lazy good-for-nothing bum, OR perhaps he has a problem whereby although he can walk and move, he has to limit the amount of each that he does.For instance, my hubby had a total hip. He could walk after a bit, but it was quite tiring for him and he was limited in the number of steps he could do per day for a while. He used a motorized cart when shopping at Wally, but after paying, was able to walk to the car. Although, if this dude was bouncing on his toes etc, that sure sounds odd for someone with a disorder that fatigues them. They ususally take measures to conserve energy!


myLot reputation of 57/100. vitekfdr (607)   ranked 5,917 out of 26,920 in people  5 years ago

This article reminded me of one situation where i saw girl who was on a wheelchair asking to help here financially, and i gave her a dollar, she looked so convincing that she really had a problem. But after few minutes i saw her standing up like nothing was wrong and just vanished by carrying the wheelchair near her, that situation had same principal, as previous one told above. Some people are pretending to be handicaped in order to get something in return, they try to assimilate those handicapped people and be a part of them to get ether help financially

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