I don't pretend to be a Christian, but. . .  

Hello barehugs

You make a good point, and it is baffling. I used to be very involved in the church, and because of things like this and other things, I realized that it was not the place for me. So much corruption that is not only ignored, but rewarded in an attempt to appease and hide the truth.

While it is is heinous that these things happen and that the hierarchy covers it up, I think that the people who make up the church are also complicit by their very silence and desire to not get involved. This is not only true of the type of thing you have brought up, but for the very purpose that the church is supposed to have -- few people who are in the institutional church seem to give a rat's behind about actually loving other people. Is it any wonder they turn a blind eye to this sort of thing, when they turn a blind eye to the injustice that has become common in our society??

By the way, I heard that it was nearly 2 billion dollars total, with a recent ruling of over $600 million.

I don't understand why you feel no one cares. BTW before I go any further, let me say I don't go to church. I have a HUGE post on that from several months back, if you ever wish to validate that. Ok, what would it take to prove to you yes, we Christians care about these issues and are deeply sicken by them? I don't understand what it is you see or are not seeing so it would help for me to better answer your question if I knew what it is exactly. BTW no attacks here, just looks like this could be an interesting converstation.

it is weird. i guess they feel like if they do not admit to knowing then they are not guilty. it is one of those dont look, dont tell type of things. That is why alot of people find religion all a hypocrisy. Because in religion, they say Judge not...yet they judge. They say dont lay with others in bed...yet they molest children...no i am not saying ALL people in religion do this...by no means...but that .001% makes the rest look bad

This is a very big issue and I'm not even sure I can even find the correct words to express what I feel. I think it is so sad that money, greed, has over powered the goodness in many church practices. What enrages me is the cover up because it centers around the church.

We can not put all Christains in the same catergory because there are so many Christian beliefs and followings. Remember Christain is a general term when refering to religion, there are Lutherans, Babtist and other forms of Christain faith that deeply frown on the Catholics for the scandals.

I am not a catholic, but I am a Christian. I can not and will not defend the wrong doings of another Christain following, just because they claim who they think they are. They have used power and corruption to enpower themselves to abuse others. It is sick and the ultamate act of crime against another and God.

First of all I want to say that the Christian church and Catholic Religions are 2 seperate religions.

I don't agree with what the Priests, Bishops and Archbiships are doing and I don't agree with them having ruined lives, but I think it is time, but don't think it will happen, that the Catholic Religion needs to look at letting priests get married. And maybe just maybe the lives on thousands of innocents would not be ruined.

But before you lump all religions together, please know that hte religion that is doing the abuse is not generally the same as the 'Christian' Religion, that's not to say that it doesn't exist in the Christian, and if it were to exist in the Christian religion, there would be just as much outrage....

So before you accuse us all of being monsters, please know that there are many catholic churches that don't pracitice in this and that this is I would hope condoned by the Pope and VAtican, as well as the general public, but that it is not also the same religion as Christianity.

Mooch

I can't understand why it wouldn't be a main story. I know that some Irish Catholic priests have been named and shamed, good thing I'm not very attached to my religion. I think if you look at the church's history, particularly the Catholic Church, there has been a lot of corruption in its past and yet it has still managed to thrive. And what I hate the most are the hypocrites who condemn and judge others when you could rip their Church to shreds...it's a strange world.

I've been a devout catholic in my younger years but after seeing such horrible things i've started to loose faith in it >_> for one when they say "secrecy during confession" it doesnt mean they can still say a person's story during homily only they didnt mention his/her name. its twisted, all these religioun politics dont make them any different from the state politics that they most often than not continue to oppose :P

if you're into history, you should look into my country's history. i live in the philippines and for 300 years we've been subject to the abuse of religious powers yet none of the people back then dared to oppose until some heros showed up to fight for the cause. i dont think its any different now, they're still up to their acts, trying to act all good but behind it all they cant live up to what they practice. i think if they want people to respect them, they should at least set a good example, but instead they just give excuses and say "we're only human." Jesus incarnated into human is an example that we can be like him and its not impossible.

ah well >_> religious issues like this really flares me up most of the time XD

If I remember correctly , when the story first came out, there was alot of outrage from all types of Christians.But Americans have short attention spands. And the press went on the next big story.There had to be a huge cover up for this to go on for so long.I don't think that Christians are brainwashed. But if you are not Catholic, you follow the story from a far.I believe there are many outraged Christians, who are not Catholic, out there but they won't bad mouth the whole Catholic Church.So I don't think it is being brainwashing but political correctness that is stopping the outrage you want to see.

I don't think people are passive - changes are already occurring both inside and outside the church that will make it difficult for this kind of thing to happen in the future. If people "seem" passive, maybe it's just old news by now - this story broke years ago, and there's only so long that people can sustain emotional outrage, no matter how hard the media tries to keep us frenzied.

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