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myLot reputation of 97/100. deebomb (10022)   ranked 241 out of 8,776 in health 5 years ago



I just read about a couple in Reno Nevada that were letting their babies starve while playing internet video games (Dungeons & dragons). They let their little boy 22 months and daughter 11 months old got hungry while they played. They had plenty of food just were too busy to take car of the babies. Besides being malnourished the little girl had cat urine in her hair and the little boy has genital infections.

Last month, experts at an American Medical Association meeting backed away from a proposal to designate video game addiction as a mental disorder, saying it had to be studied further. Some said the issue is like alcoholism, while others said there was no concrete evidence it's a psychological disease.

Patrick Killen, spokesman for Nevada Child Abuse Prevention, said video game addiction's correlation to child abuse is "a new spin on an old problem."
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This is the part that got me. Another disease as an excuse to get away with bad choices and misbehavior. When enough people do stupid stuff these days it becomes a deaease.

 

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tags:  addiction, child neglect, child abuse, video games, abuse
 
1. myLot reputation of 95/100. Lucille7 (306)   ranked 568 out of 8,776 in health   5 years ago

The only disease here it lack of self control. It is the same with alcoholism... Lack of self control. Anyway! It is another sign that we do not take responsibility for our own actions and we teach our children that too. We do not teach them that there is a consequence to each and every decision that we make.

Like with small kids, and my sister does this, they bump their toe on the bricks or something and then it gets blamed on the naughty brick thereby teaching our children that the brick is at fault and that the stumped toe is the result of not picking up his/her feet properly. So Ja. It all begins there.

I know that was a silly example, but hopefully you get the just of what I am trying to say.


myLot reputation of 97/100. deebomb (10022)   ranked 241 out of 8,776 in health  5 years ago

Yes I get the picture you are try to paint. Yes if we can call it a disease tnhhen we are not responsible for our actions. we really are getting to be pathetic aren't we?


myLot reputation of 95/100. Lucille7 (306)   ranked 568 out of 8,776 in health  5 years ago

I could not agree with you more. It is sad to see our nation go down this way blaming everything else on our own faults and lack of self control. That is what is eventually going to end the human race and then who will we blame then. We cannot take control of ourselves and so how will we as a human race teach self control to our children in hope of a better life for the future. There is no hope... It is only going to get worse.

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2. myLot reputation of 98/100. mikesgal4ever1999 (580)   5 years ago

I find this whole article appauling. I enjoy my computer time as well as playing games online and I have 3 well fed, well taken care of children. I play Dungeons and Dragons on computer games as well as a face to face version (when and if I have the time LOL). My children love video games too and play them a lot. My youngest who is 16 months love to sit on my lap while I play a game or create graphics on Paint Shop Pro. I don't EVER forget my kids are there--we still eat meals together, play together and if someone wants mom to read them a book, mom LEAVES the computer. If one of the girls want to play dishes, mom does that too. My husband does the same thing--puts the baby on his lap to watch (dad plays different games than mom LOL) but he will still read books, throw a ball, and build things with the teenager. I don't take my computer outside when we go out to bbq or play either. I guess its all in a choice you make. And I love my kids dearly and WANT to spend time with them. I have to agree that someone just wants to use video games/computer games as an excuse to get away with making a bad choice. If they didn't want kids and wanted to play games, then why not make the choice for birth control. Poor children...


myLot reputation of 97/100. deebomb (10022)   ranked 241 out of 8,776 in health  5 years ago

I too find this whole thing upsetting. One haas to have self control. But I'm afraid that given time they will clame this kind of bosession a disease. and I find that apauling.

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3. myLot reputation of 87/100. youdontsay (2050)   5 years ago

I don't believe behaviors that result from feeding an addiction should be excused. Behavior is always a choice. The addiction may be a disease but the addict always makes choices about whether to use or not. Any behavior that results from using a substance or behavior one is addicted to does not excuse the user from the consequences of that behavior.

Alcoholics make a choice when they drink and drive. When they harm someone they are just as responsible for that harm and should have full responsibility for the consequences. The same is true of any addictive behavior.

Adults have the responsibility for children in their care. They therefore have the responsibility to choose behavior that does not harm the children. Addicted to video games? Fine. Get rid of the video games if you can't use them responsibly.

Why do we have to make it so difficult?

We are all responsibile for our choices and therefore for the consequences of our choices. Addiction might be the reason for a behavior but it is not an excuse. Nothing truly excuses us from the consequences of our choices.


myLot reputation of 97/100. deebomb (10022)   ranked 241 out of 8,776 in health  5 years ago

I totaly agree with you but when thee adictions are classifiedas disease the the responsiable person can now say I have a disease and therefore I'm not responsable for my actions. To me they are still responsable but thats me.


myLot reputation of 97/100. kelly60 (3254)   ranked 197 out of 8,776 in health  5 years ago

Addiction or not, it is no excuse for neglecting these children. It really doesn't matter what type of an addiction someone might have, they still have to be responsible enough to take care of their children. If they can't handle both the children and the games at the same time, then they should make a choice of which means the most to them, and give up the other one.


myLot reputation of 87/100. youdontsay (2050)  5 years ago

Disease or not, we are responsible for our choices.

If a diabetic ignores their diet they are not excused from the consequences. Even alcoholics know not to drink.

A choice is involved.


myLot reputation of 72/100. indium (1575)  5 years ago

sorry but i disagree. a lot of human behaviour is not a choice. If you do not have control of your behaviour, then what ever choice you make is irrelevant.


myLot reputation of 87/100. youdontsay (2050)  5 years ago

What human behavior is not a choice? Unless you are psychotic and you do not have access to your rational self, only basic natural body functions are out of your control. And even they can be strongly influenced by one's mind.

Behaviors that harm others are chosen unless we are truly psychotic or do not have enough intellect to know that behavior is potentially harmful.

Addictions are hard to fight, but people can and do overcome them by making choices. We may not choose events but we do choose how we respond to events. I can't choose the weather, but I can choose how to respond to whatever comes.

I may not be able to choose other people's behavior but I can choose how I respond.

We have a lot more control in our lives than we recognize most of the time, not control over other but control over our responses. We are responsible for our choices.


myLot reputation of 72/100. indium (1575)  5 years ago

You don't choose when you need to use the bathroom, you don't choose when you fall asleep. you don't choose when you feel hungry, happy or sad. you don't choose who you fall in love with. Much of human behaviour is driven but subconscious and primitive things that we do not have access to.


myLot reputation of 97/100. deebomb (10022)   ranked 241 out of 8,776 in health  5 years ago

We do chose to smoke that cigerret or to take that drink. We also chose to be on the internet. These are choices we make all the time


myLot reputation of 87/100. youdontsay (2050)  5 years ago

indium, you are talking about feelings and while feelings seem to come to us unbidden they are determined by what we believe and we can change our beliefs if we choose to. Feelings do not control our behavior. Humans have a conscious mind that can determine behavior. I can be angry and not act on that feeling, etc.

We can control our elimination, many people do. The need arises in response to our choice to consume or not that which eventually is eliminated.

We can control when we sleep or not, many people do. Our behavior choices strongly control our sleep pattern. What we eat, think about, or do will induce wakefullness or sleep.

So, you see we do make BEHAVIOR choices, constantly.


myLot reputation of 72/100. indium (1575)  5 years ago

you can't choose what you believe in! I actually disagree with a lot of what you say are choices. Maybe you have such an amazing level of control that they are for you but not for everyone.

Addition is not a choice it's a recognised medical condition and stems from chemical changes in the brain.


myLot reputation of 87/100. youdontsay (2050)  5 years ago

You are right that addiction is not a choice. But feeding the addiction is a choice. You can be alcoholic and choose not to drink.

Of course we can change our beliefs. We all do. We don't believe the same things as adults that we did as children. And we can change our beliefs about people and events, etc.

People often reject the idea that they have choices because they then think they are to blame or will be blamed. But it isn't about blame. It is about responsibility, which is very different. We have responsibility for the consequences of our choices whether we blame ourselves/others or not.

Maturity is about being responsible for one's choices, not about blaming yourself for consequences.


myLot reputation of 97/100. deebomb (10022)   ranked 241 out of 8,776 in health  5 years ago

If these Dr ever do decide that playing these video game and this tyope of behavior is an addiction then these kind of people can say they are sick and get awayy with a lot more then this. There are dieases the then there are just plane bad habits.


myLot reputation of 72/100. indium (1575)  5 years ago

"You can be alcoholic and choose not to drink"
SOME alcoholics can choose. A lot can not.

"Of course we can change our beliefs. We all do. We don't believe the same things as adults that we did as children. And we can change our beliefs about people and events, etc."

The fact that beliefs change does not mean that we have chosen to change them.


myLot reputation of 97/100. deebomb (10022)   ranked 241 out of 8,776 in health  5 years ago

Life is all about choices When you make statements about not being in control of our beliefs but I disagree with you. We do choose what we believe in. We do choose to neglect our children. There are out side things that can effect that choice but we ultimately make the end choice even in what we believe If I want to believe that there is a Santa Clause I can choose to believe in him So shall we agree to disagree on this one?


myLot reputation of 87/100. youdontsay (2050)  5 years ago

My point exactly. People can choose to change their beliefs, just look at all those folks who change their religious beliefs.

And people can choose to not drink. It may be a hard choice with demands of the addiction, but it is possible. Many alcoholics do it.


myLot reputation of 72/100. indium (1575)  5 years ago

yup agree to disagree. I do not think we can choose our beliefs any more than we can choose the colour of our eyes.

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4. myLot reputation of 83/100. slarkin71 (4526)   5 years ago

I agree with you, calling it a disease is just an excuse. It's easy to fix as an addiction, throw the stupid consol in the bin. And the fact that kids are getting neglected because of it, its horrendous.

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5. myLot reputation of 78/100. suspenseful (19614)   ranked 203 out of 8,776 in health   5 years ago

I hope the authorities took the children away and they are now with good people. I cannot understand how anyone would be so engrossed in a video game that they neglect their own children. That is terrible! I am glad those experts of the AMA resisted the idea of calling video game addiction a mental disorder. The parents were not stupid, they were criminal.


myLot reputation of 97/100. deebomb (10022)   ranked 241 out of 8,776 in health  5 years ago

The babies were taken away and the parents face jail time.

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6. mandie_mae (86)   ranked 4,839 out of 8,776 in health   5 years ago

that is judt sick and crazy. lazy! thats all really. that is no disease. they are just people that dont care about anything but them selves and their own enjoyment. you know they had to lock those babies in another room somewhere while they were playing the game cause they was most likley crying over hunger. this angers me!

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7. myLot reputation of 89/100. cripfemme (7251)   ranked 521 out of 8,776 in health   5 years ago

They might be internet addicted, but that doesn't excuse their horrible behavior. My middle cousin drinks too much and acts mean when he does it, but it's his choice to drink and I don't excuse his behavior. I think these people ought to get help for their addictions,If help is needed but don't blame the game. I


myLot reputation of 97/100. deebomb (10022)   ranked 241 out of 8,776 in health  5 years ago

I'm sure they could hear thoses babies crying because they were hungyr the mother took time from the game to go to work. she could have taken 15 or twenty minto fed the kids

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8. myLot reputation of 96/100. hersmart4ever (4461)   ranked 2,208 out of 8,776 in health   5 years ago

That was really shocking. They must have been so addicted by the game. They cannot control themselves and to think that the two of them were both involved. I do not know if that is a disease or yeah, maybe a behavioral problem that should be resolved becoz its affecting their relationship with their children and their responsibilities to them as well.


myLot reputation of 97/100. deebomb (10022)   ranked 241 out of 8,776 in health  5 years ago

This is just 2 people doing what they want and ignoring their kids. They need to be held responsable and not hide behind a fancy name.

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9. myLot reputation of 94/100. terry11 (1080)   ranked 2,702 out of 8,776 in health   5 years ago

This is crap stuff. If video game addiction is a disease then everything else is, like shouting, cursing, spitting, being late for work, etc. Those who designate this as a disease are likely having mental disorder. Can they find the virus causing this?

It is very irresponsible of the couple to have neglected feeding and attending to the children's basic needs. This is poor parenting! Over indulgence in video game is a reflection of a lack in self control and time planning.


myLot reputation of 97/100. deebomb (10022)   ranked 241 out of 8,776 in health  5 years ago

As you say over indulgence and shelfishness pure and simple.

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10. myLot reputation of 64/100. us2owls (2086)   ranked 3,239 out of 8,776 in health   5 years ago

Disease my butt. This was pure ignorance, laziness and selfishness. I hope they jail these two for a very long time without access to any of the things they seem to enjoy most in life. On top of this they both need neutered so they can never have any more kids to abuse and neglect. Whoever this Patrick Killen is he needs to go back to school and learn about life, he certainly doesn't need to be in the job he is in if he makes that kind of stupid excuses for out and out abuse and neglect.


myLot reputation of 97/100. deebomb (10022)   ranked 241 out of 8,776 in health  5 years ago

You are so totaly right. Those 2 did plead guilty to child neglect but that's not enough.

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