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Preventing Drops In Stars and Ratings---Rate...Rate...Rate! email this discussion to a friend?

myLot reputation of 99/100. Perspectives (2264)   ranked 85 out of 32,643 in mylot.com3 years ago

I have been noticing a number of members saying that their stars changed colors and ratings dropped without any indication why...or by whom. Then sunshine posted a discussion saying that Mylot uses the rating to allocate earnings. So if this is true it is not only frustrating and disheartening to have a well-earned blue star and then have it change without provocation.

I read over Mylot's position on this and if they can track the ratings to determine earnings...wouldn't you think they'd be able to track who was responsible for giving a valued member negatives and dropping their rating? I have had mine go down as much as three points overnight...without knowing who I might have offended. I don't mind people if people do not agree with me...but to my understanding we are only supposed to rate negatively when there are other implications.

Another thing, if we all worked together and were very diligent in never leaving a rating 'un-designated' and made sure to give pluses in the greatest majority of cases there would not be an 'opening' for the trouble makers to rate others unfavorably...unless they really needed to be. I am always surprised as I move around from site to site how many members do not rate on their sites and others.

My system is to rate before I even respond...anytime...anywhere. I have never rated anyone with a - or! so far. I do not get involved with 'hissy-fit' discussions and so far have had no reason to rate anything but +. So fellow Mylotters and friends what do you think about the idea of being fully committed to keeping our ratings high by caring enough to rate each other on the plus side?

We are, by and large in each other's cheering section anyway...so why not go that little extra mile and RATE, RATE, RATE! It would be a way of covering each other's backs and hopefully reducing the chance of any other valued member's ratings...and earnings going down because someone took advantage because discussions and responses were not rated. I am committed to do it...I'd be interested to know if anyone else would be willing to commit to looking out for the best interests of the all.

So long for now...
Raia

 
 
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11. myLot reputation of 94/100. alamode (1891)   ranked 1,145 out of 32,643 in mylot.com   3 years ago

Sign me up, Raia... negativity can't be allowed to damage the good people here. I know I'm guilty of missing a few that I should have rated. I'll go back and give these people their due! Thanks for the nudge to do what's right!


myLot reputation of 99/100. Perspectives (2264)   ranked 85 out of 32,643 in mylot.com  3 years ago

Thanks alamode...we all need little nudges now and again. It has always perplexed me why members do not rate. The bare minimum to me is to reward anyone who comes to their site as a contributor..each and every time.

For me it is a polite and respectful way to say thank you for anyone who drops by and adds their wonderful words to my topics. Same thing when I go anywhere else...it seems like a little downer...pages and pages of unrated comments on many sites. I usually go along and click, click, click...plus, plus, plus...even if they never knew who did it. So if we all do it...hopefully everyone at Mylot will feel more appreciated...and there will be no chance for the 'neggies' of the group...to 'neg.'

Good to have your input and participation. That is why your membership has become important to many of us. Thanks!


myLot reputation of 94/100. alamode (1891)   ranked 1,145 out of 32,643 in mylot.com  3 years ago

This is a community... it shouldn't come down to high school-style cliques or popularity contests when we could be behaving like intelligent adults. Clicking the (-) is vindictive and a bit cowardly. People are stating their opinions... whether others agree or not, it shouldn't devolve into petty squabbles. We should all encourage and respect each other.


myLot reputation of 99/100. Perspectives (2264)   ranked 85 out of 32,643 in mylot.com  3 years ago

I agree wholehardedly alamode..

The only time I can see doing a negative or abuse rating is when a person is being rude, getting into name-calling or put-downs. That is uncalled for and in those cases I wouldn't have any trouble in giving them a negative. The same thing is true if they are abusive, threatening, racist or attacking a person's values or beliefs..I wouldn't hesitate to report them to Mylot either. But beyond that within my personal, professional and on-line interactions my goal is to have respectful dialog with others whether I agree or not. People have the right of free choice and free speech. It is beyond my what so many have trouble accepting that reality.

That is why I treasure my on-line friendships with members like you...and so many others I have met here. If that every changed I would be so far out of here!LOL

Hope your plans for order are progressing well. Take care..
Raia

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myLot reputation of 94/100. alamode (1891)   ranked 1,145 out of 32,643 in mylot.com  3 years ago

I must admit to a couple of - marks over some very rude behavior, but the discussion was deleted anyway. Now that I've caught up with my ratings, I will probably only just not rate the comment, if its out of line... - is a pretty serious thing! Gonna keep the good feelings going!!
I'm trudging along... I work slowly, but I get there! Thanks, my friend!

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12. myLot reputation of 92/100. funny52f (5136)   ranked 375 out of 32,643 in mylot.com   3 years ago

Like you, I do my best to rate each one a + regardless of how long or how bad the discussion is, so long as he or she is answering my post, I rate them positive, no questions asked. I think it will be a good idea to be on the positive side, rating people + should also make them do that to others. I hope so.


myLot reputation of 99/100. Perspectives (2264)   ranked 85 out of 32,643 in mylot.com  3 years ago

Good to hear that we have similar views on this idea. At least we are doing our part in making sure members best interests are being maintained. If we keep encouraging old and new members to do the same hopefully abuses will be reduced.

Thanks for letting us know your positive approach to Mylotting!

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13. myLot reputation of 83/100. bluewaves (2169)   ranked 6,677 out of 32,643 in mylot.com   3 years ago

i think we try to post on many discussion as well so that a lot of people will rate your discussion as positive. well i think a lot of people dont make a rating. but i do. i make it a point to rate their discussion or comments. well mostly positive. unless its really a nonsense comments or discussion thats not related to the topic i have to give negative ratings.


myLot reputation of 99/100. Perspectives (2264)   ranked 85 out of 32,643 in mylot.com  3 years ago

Hi 'blue' and welcome to Mylot. With your approach I am sure your star will rating will come along well. It is always great to hear a new member that is willing to fully participate by using the rating system for the highest and greatest good of the all.

Glad to have your input...and hope you enjoy being part of this community as much as the rest of us do!

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14. myLot reputation of 73/100. everlasting (9961)   ranked 3,049 out of 32,643 in mylot.com   3 years ago

Mylot said this star rating has nothing to do with the earning algoritm. When some users said that they are earning several 2 to 3 cents per discussion, It got me thinking that this is really what is happening.

I guess it is very unfair on my part that I got this stupid 7 when some who play it safe got the nine ot ten.

I think this is the reason why so many went away from this site. This is so discouraging!


myLot reputation of 80/100. Rollo1 (1624)   ranked 585 out of 32,643 in mylot.com  3 years ago

I agree everlasting - you should not be punished because you entered discussions where you had dissenting opinions. If the whole idea was to play it safe, we could all have 10 star ratings by only answering "what is your favorite color/dessert/movie star?" type discussions. I had a 10 rating until I entered one discussion. Luckily, I don't care that much anymore, I am nearing cash-out and I don't foresee my wanting to stay much longer in the future.


myLot reputation of 99/100. Perspectives (2264)   ranked 85 out of 32,643 in mylot.com  3 years ago

Ahhhh...I hope you will both stay and add your experience and wisdom to help us create where members like you will stay. The ratings system obviously has a lot of flaws. To me the dissatisfaction and lack of accuracy is something Mylot may need to take a look at.

I so agree with you both about having the right to speak and not being penalized for doing so has to be maintained. There are so many intelligent, thoughtful people here that are willing to offer a variety of viewpoints within 'free speech.' As long as the discussions are conducted as 'respectful dialog' there should not be any penalty in my view. This is a framework that many other Mylotters agree to as well.

It would be a shame if either or both of you left. You must know that many of your regular contributors and friends value who you are and what you bring to this community. If you leave...then those who have different values will win. There is something I try to live by and that is that each of us must have enough self worth so the rejection of our ideas by others has little effect when we are following our own path.

The ratings clearly are not an a true indication of how we are coming across...feedback from members is all that really matters here. So I would like to ask you both to give it a little more time before leaving...how about becoming part of the solution so we can all feel happier and a little more prosperous by reducing the negative impact of the 'neggie' members.

By your numbers you have been here awhile...it would be a loss to see you leave.

Thanks for adding insight to the problem...hopefully we can find a way to change it for the better.

Warm regards,
Raia


myLot reputation of 73/100. everlasting (9961)   ranked 3,049 out of 32,643 in mylot.com  3 years ago

This is easier said than done. There are sites that are more friendlier than this site. I hate it when sites discriminate.


myLot reputation of 99/100. Perspectives (2264)   ranked 85 out of 32,643 in mylot.com  3 years ago

I am sorry I am unclear what you mean about this site being an unfriendly one...that is the first time anyone has ever said that. If you'd care to read over the pages of affirmations for the respectful dialog that everyone participates in I think you would see that anyone is welcome here..as long as we respect differences.

When I said that I do not want to get in the middle of other people's disagreements that hardly seems unfriendly. My approach to communication is that we all need to take responsibility for the cause and effect of our choices try to see both sides of any conflict. Taking sides on something that is not approach. I believe people will have enough emotional maturity to work out their differences without others adding their energy to the mix and maybe inflaming things further.

You and anyone else are welcome to participate in any topic...so how that can be unfriendly is beyond me.

Anyway, your observations are interesting...always something new to look at. That is why the site is named..."Perspectives" because we all have them.

Cheers,
Raia

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15. myLot reputation of 88/100. sunshinecup (5911)   ranked 1,528 out of 32,643 in mylot.com   3 years ago

*APPLAUSE*

I agreed with everything you said. If all of us would just rate, we could lesson the effects of these back fighters that attack our ratings cause they don't have the sense to take us on face to face. I have had mine dropped a few times after a heated debate. Good grief children will be children I reckon, but if everyone else would rate my other posts, I wouldn't have dropped a few spots over night.

It's the very reason I give all posts I reply to a plus. I feel I have to like it if I am going to reply to it. You know?

Any way great discussion and thanks so much for posting it!


myLot reputation of 99/100. Perspectives (2264)   ranked 85 out of 32,643 in mylot.com  3 years ago

I am bowing with my hands clasped over my heart...and saying thank your your your recognition. Reading that your rating went down reveals that something needs to be done to irradiate the 'neggies' who 'neg' from their lack of emotional maturity. I would be the first to rate you a blue ten..because I know the quality of your posts and your genuine concern for others.

Your point clearly affirms how we could counteract petty back stabbing. Rate, rate, rate anywhere, anytime and lets tighten up our ranks so others who are not working from the same value system as the rest of us.

It may be a great discussion...but so is your response. No doubt you have already received a big plus!

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16. myLot reputation of 98/100. rosie_123 (3858)   ranked 53 out of 32,643 in mylot.com   3 years ago

I always rate every reply in my discussions, and try to answer each one separately, - even if it is only with a few words of thanks. In my view, if someone is good enough to make a contribution to a topic I have started, then it is only common courtesy to acknowledge them. The only time a really negative rate is if someone uses one of my discussion topics to post something completely irrelevant and off-topic, such as the poster who one stuck a couple of his referral links on a cat discussion I started! That poster obviously hadn't bothered to read my discussion - he was just using my topic as a convenient way to try and earn a few cheap pennies, and I objected to being used in this way. If someone has an opinion opposite to mine, I tend to leave them alone, not to negative rate them, as I feel they are as entitled to their views as I am. However, I know others don't do the same, because if ever I post in any thread where I state my Pro-Choice stance for example, I see my points drop due to neg ratings from the Pro-Life fascists! Have a good day!


myLot reputation of 99/100. Perspectives (2264)   ranked 85 out of 32,643 in mylot.com  3 years ago

Your approach is the same is mine. I have not had your experience with a member using my post as a referral link. I'd probably ask them to refrain from that...then leave the rating blank as you do.

I am not suggesting blanket pluses or rewarding irresponsible or abusive behavior..so yes, we need to be discerning.

Your negative response to exercising your right to free speech is unfortunate. However, you are a strong person and as you said in your approval post...you have a strong, confident self-worth that is not dependent on the approval of others. We need all the free-thinking people we can have. Mass consciousness tends to prevent people from thinking outside the box.

So within Mylot land lets keep rating pluses for those who earn them...lessen the opportunity for negative thinkers to be eliminated and hold abusive members accountable by making Mylot aware we have a problem here that needs their attention.

Thanks Rosie...another good post!

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17. myLot reputation of 80/100. Rollo1 (1624)   ranked 585 out of 32,643 in mylot.com   3 years ago

I respond to a discussion when I have an opinion. The idea that you ought not to respond unless you agree leaves us with little of the definition of "discussion" - you may as well call it "mutual admiration". On the other hand, I don't rate anyone negatively because I disagree with them. If they are particularly nasty in their disagreement, I generally avoid rating them at all.

I know exactly why my star rating fell one point overnight and it was due to one particular discussion where I wholehearted disagreed with the opinion of the poster but in the case where the question is asked "what do you think?", I don't know why I shouldn't say what it is I think.

Even though I know who went on a campaign to rate me negatively (as it was the only discussion I was involved in that day), I still did not go back and rate that person(s) negatively because I see nothing to gain by being that petty.

On all other discussions, where people make an effort to contribute, I give them a positive rating. I would like to say I am disappointed in the level of honor and maturity of the people who do these things on purpose to punish, but I am not. I have come to expect it, but I still maintain my right to express my opinions, even those that are not popular.

I agree that everyone should attempt to positively rate others who contribute to discussions, and they should attempt to put feelings of rancor aside and treat all discussions as just that, a place for people to express their opinions.


myLot reputation of 99/100. Perspectives (2264)   ranked 85 out of 32,643 in mylot.com  3 years ago

I am very impressed with your articulate, honoring, fair-minded approach within Mylot Land. The way you navigate your way around and treat others the way you'd like to be treated is admirable. By not going back and negatively rating those who did it to you underscores how different your values are from theirs.

Whether it shows up in an increase in your rating or not I very much believe in the...what goes around comes around philosophy. Sooner or later your more honoring approach will come back from some other source.

I also applaud your unwillingness to allow others from preventing you from expressing your opinions...goodness yes! Whether it is in everyday living...or on discussion forums..no one can allow free speech to be silenced by those who cannot move beyond their narrow views.

Your very balanced approach to this problem is a great addition here...thank you!

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18. myLot reputation of 83/100. phon4u (1890)   ranked 9,017 out of 32,643 in mylot.com   3 years ago

I always rate plus when I response and add comment to the mylotters. I have never rated minus to myLotters. I accept their discussion and what they have posted positively or negatively.


myLot reputation of 99/100. Perspectives (2264)   ranked 85 out of 32,643 in mylot.com  3 years ago

Good for you...from the responses here it appears that there are a core group of us that do it that way. Hopefully we can encourage more of the old and all the Newbies to do the same. If we can it will be a win-win for all concerned.

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19. myLot reputation of 78/100. whiteheather39 (13439)   ranked 2,039 out of 32,643 in mylot.com   3 years ago

I have diligently rated all postings since the stupid stars came into effect.


myLot reputation of 80/100. Rollo1 (1624)   ranked 585 out of 32,643 in mylot.com  3 years ago

whiteheather, you made me smile. What a nice way to give your support and your true opinion at the same time, gave me a chuckle.


myLot reputation of 99/100. Perspectives (2264)   ranked 85 out of 32,643 in mylot.com  3 years ago

Hi to both whiteheather and rollo...great comments from both of you. I had the pleasure of a double chuckle...so your comments added a lighter touch to the mix. Thanks for that!

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20. myLot reputation of 94/100. andyliuzn (610)   ranked 2,761 out of 32,643 in mylot.com   3 years ago

Hi Raia,

It's really a long topic! You sound kind of unhappy at the bad guys here. Don't be mad at them and just enjoy mylotting here, I suppose once your friends see this article,they would help you out and help raise your rating here.

WBR, Andy


myLot reputation of 99/100. Perspectives (2264)   ranked 85 out of 32,643 in mylot.com  3 years ago

Well I am not so unhappy for myself because so far I have only gone up and down a few points. If you read the content my concern started when friend sunshinecup, whiteheather, miamilady and a few others had their stars drop dramatically almost overnight. This was not a push for people to rate me any differently than they choose to. I am not hung up on that because I value the genuine feedback I receive directly far more than some nebulous rating system that doesn't explain much of anything.

So sorry if you thought I needed shoring up here. As I mentioned the post was more to rally a collective call to fellow Mylotters to protect each other from those with less honorable motives. However, it is sweet of you to think I wanted my rating raised...very nice. Thank you.

Hope this clarifies my post...maybe the length of it created a 'lost in translation' effect.LOL

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