Preventing Drops In Stars and Ratings---Rate...Rate...Rate!  |
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I have been noticing a number of members saying that their stars changed colors and ratings dropped without any indication why...or by whom. Then sunshine posted a discussion saying that Mylot uses the rating to allocate earnings. So if this is true it is not only frustrating and disheartening to have a well-earned blue star and then have it change without provocation.
I read over Mylot's position on this and if they can track the ratings to determine earnings...wouldn't you think they'd be able to track who was responsible for giving a valued member negatives and dropping their rating? I have had mine go down as much as three points overnight...without knowing who I might have offended. I don't mind people if people do not agree with me...but to my understanding we are only supposed to rate negatively when there are other implications.
Another thing, if we all worked together and were very diligent in never leaving a rating 'un-designated' and made sure to give pluses in the greatest majority of cases there would not be an 'opening' for the trouble makers to rate others unfavorably...unless they really needed to be. I am always surprised as I move around from site to site how many members do not rate on their sites and others.
My system is to rate before I even respond...anytime...anywhere. I have never rated anyone with a - or! so far. I do not get involved with 'hissy-fit' discussions and so far have had no reason to rate anything but +. So fellow Mylotters and friends what do you think about the idea of being fully committed to keeping our ratings high by caring enough to rate each other on the plus side?
We are, by and large in each other's cheering section anyway...so why not go that little extra mile and RATE, RATE, RATE! It would be a way of covering each other's backs and hopefully reducing the chance of any other valued member's ratings...and earnings going down because someone took advantage because discussions and responses were not rated. I am committed to do it...I'd be interested to know if anyone else would be willing to commit to looking out for the best interests of the all.
So long for now... Raia
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31. visitorinvasion (3604) | 3 years ago | That might work if all members who have not yet rated didn't have the opportunity to leave their rating as well, but alas, everyone gets a chance to rate everyone.
My personal practice is to plus everyone unless it is a spam comment, a copied post or someone is just being down right rude and vindictive. Sometimes I minus or report the former two of the three, and sometimes I just skip it.
Now, if someone is being excessively rude to a friend, especially someone who is too kind to fight back, you can bet I'll leave the rare but dreaded minus.
I agree tho, if we do all plus nearly everything we read, it is bound to over power the minusing and at least allow members to keep the progress they have achieved rather than bringing it down.
Ciao4now, Shannon
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Perspectives (2264) | 3 years ago | You are a conscientious gal and I am not surprised that you rate fairly and often. I decided to post this topic because it surprised me how many members do not rate their respondents. I like to do it right away..because of the quality responses I see here..but also it helps me to keep track of comments to my comments when I come back the next day.
It is beyond me why Mylot doesn't have a way of tracking those who are using the system to back stab others for expressing an opinion. So much for free speech! If mylot can delete..and use the system to rate members surely they should be able to go back and see what caused a sudden drop in a members rating..and who did it.
It seems that when it happens the members just take it...maybe the movers and shakers we are need to take on another cause eh Shannon? As if we don't have enough to keep us busy already!LOL Thank you for the lovely post on my Blog..much appreciated.
Take care my friend..hope your classes and studies are going well. So long for now.. Raia
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32. Transdisc (18489) | 3 years ago | I admire your attitude, Perspectives, and I wish that it was true, but my own experience doesn't support it. I always rate, and I always give a positive. Yet, every since I was attacked some months ago, my star has yet to improve.
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Perspectives (2264) | 3 years ago | Thank you for your kudos. I am not sure if members making sure there are no loopholes for trouble makes to rate others negatively. However, all we can do is try. I am sorry to hear about your rating not coming back up. With the number of posts you have made you would think it would by now. Perhaps we need to contact Mylot and encourage them to find a way to reinstate members stars that have been degraded through attacks or for their own agendas.
Good luck and thanks for adding your experiences..unpleasant as they were.
Warm regards, Raia
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33. subha12 (16450) | 3 years ago | Hmmm.. I get your point. I generally rate a lot of discussions that I really found interesting. But here I believe very few people rate my discussion or answer positively as My rating have not changed for a long. I think few people rule in mylot and they have lots of responses and ratings in mylot. I am not that lucky few.
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Perspectives (2264) | 3 years ago | Good to know your rating has not changed. Seems that quite a few members have had the unpleasant experience of having theirs go down. The un-rated responses are how members with an agenda go around and rate their targets negatively. Hopefully a tightening up of the openings by all members working together might help to prevent that from happening.
So if we rate a plus whenever we see unmarked responses..it might change the dynmaic. I appreciate your input..thanks!
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34. sheenmadness (584) | 3 years ago | Personally I don't give any mylotters a -negative ratings. I always give a plus rating to anyone, we may have different point of views with regards to the matter. Not unless its offensive one, hopefully i will not reach to that point. I always believe that everyone is entittled to their own opinion so whats the reason behind giving any mylotters a -rating.
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Perspectives (2264) | 3 years ago | Your approach is a good one. I wish everyone rated everyone else. I am always surprised to see how many members do not rate..even during their own discussions. I see site and site with unmarked ratings and know this is how members who are annoyed with each other go back and abuse the sytem.
Good to know you are on the plus side of the discussion! Thanks for your input.
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sheenmadness (584) | 3 years ago | Yes Raia im on the plus side, so you can count on me.:) So i guess it's go... go... go... rate.. rate.. rate!
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Perspectives (2264) | 3 years ago | Yes...sheenmadness....you go girl!!! We are sounding the call...and nothing can stop us now....rate..rate..rate...and then rate some more! Good for you...good for me...a win-win for all!!!LOL
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35. sophylline (564) | 3 years ago | Hi Raia! Well, you already know my stand on this. I always rate and I rate everyone who respond to my discussion and comments made from others and responders. I also rate the discussion that I respond to and comments that I get. I rate all positive. There has never been an instance that I rated negative. I hope not to have to rate an exclamatory mark, though. I believe in my making a rating positive to members on here I am acknowledging and showing an appreciation of responding to men and even posting great topics and even just making an effort. I appreciate a response even if another has a different opinion, after all, we are all entitled to it and that makes things more interesting. Just as long as they are not abusive. I will not tolerate that. So, I am also for this benefit. That we rate, rate, rate.
Once again, I applaud you for making another discussion that gives awareness. You seem to have such an influence that is great influence. I am for this, and hope that each one of us will work hand in hand to make this site, which we like so much, more pleasurable to stay in.
Thanks and Hugs to you.
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Perspectives (2264) | 3 years ago | Oh sophylline you are such a wonderful friend. The genuine acknowledgments your give me touch my spirit and lift it up. The way you observe things and mirror them back is extremely meaningful..and I thank you.
Your approach to ratings is like you, fair-minded, honoring and respectful. I know if we all work together to rate in that way we can hopefully prevent those with other goals from lowering the stars of those who least deserve it.
I am of the same mind that you are; "That if we all work hand in hand to make this site, which we all like so mcuh, more pleasurable to stay in." Very well said.
You are so welcome...and big hugs and many blessings to you and yours.
Raia
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36. vashstampede992000 (2263) | 3 years ago | Hi there, well i have to say that i am committed to do it as well. I always tend to rate all the responses i get in my own discussions and give them positive rates one by one. But i am not really sure if they are doing that to me as well whenever i post my response to their discussions. But i am glad that i always get a best response from my responses and it's really well appreciated indeed. Have a nice day ahead from Kiko and happy posting and earning here in MyLot and Godspeed.
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Perspectives (2264) | 3 years ago | Hi Kiko.. Nice of you to stop by and add your experiences; thank you. I agree with you that best responses are wonderful to receive...a nice little gift from a member when you least expect it.
Hopefully the shared agreement between all Mylotters not to allow 'gaps' in the rating system...anytime...anywhere will create less opportunity for othres to use the system against members they are unhappy with.
Lovely ending to you post...blessings to you too!
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37. Feona1962 (3333) | 3 years ago | Hi Perspectives. Yes, this very thing is happening to my star..I don't care anymore because I know who I am and that I don't post or respond in a negative manner. A mylotter has been targeting my star because she is mad at my daughter because she can't be at my daughters house when her husband comes home...How sad is that...That has nothing to do with me but she is targeting me as well...She has also used copyrighted material on here and posted it as her own...That is abuse and I did report it.....I don't rate negative...There is no need to...I like to hear different opinions and such...That is what makes this a good place to talk to people...I had posted a similar discussion when my star went down for no reason...
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Perspectives (2264) | 3 years ago | Hi Feona..
I value the fact that you have offered your perspective on the challenges you and the other member have found yourselves in. I posted a response to the chat you had between yourselves on either page one or two. Sometimes people have a rough time taking a self-responsible, accountable approach to the cause and effect of the choices THEY make. My philosophy about life is that others make the choices they feel is right at the time...if it is an error in judgment that creates a wonderful opportunity to find a better way to do it...if they choose to.
If not, they will keep repeating the cycle until they find a way within themselves to change it. In our work as a life coaches and group leaders my hubby and I consistently see people who would rather be 'right' than happy. They have a big investment in maintaining the way they see things...and it is very hard for them..or others to convince them there is any other way. So be it.
So whenever I hear the loud clunk of anyone's mind closing I gracefully back off and let them think and be whatever they choose. Saves a lot of time and negative energy...and this a tough lesson for me to learn...but it sure works for me now!LOL
Anyway, after reading what has been going on with the ratings and star system I cannot see any way that anyone will resolve it unless Mylot provides some direction and explanation to members. I hope they do...otherwise we may lose some very valuable contributors and that would be unfortunate indeed.
Well that is it for now..good luck to you and the others in getting this situation resolved! Cheers, Raia
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Feona1962 (3333) | 3 years ago | Thank you so much for your insight..I do not want to cause trouble..I welcome everyones opinion..It is sad that some have to do it the hard way...It doesn't prove anything, just that they are stuck in a rut and can't get beyond it...If that is what they choose then I can't say anything different...I do wish Mylot would let us know what is going on.....Thank you again....
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Perspectives (2264) | 3 years ago | Agreeing to disagree..respecting differences and allowing others their right of free speech will hopefully reduce conflicts here. Those who have different agendas will hopefully be held accountable by Mylot if enough members complain. Nothing changes without awareness...maybe the members who have had negative incidents need to keep standing up for their rights.
Anyway, I am glad you found my comments useful...and I appreciate yours here as well. If we keeping rating our own sights then there wouldn't be a chance for anyone to abuse it.
Take care...and I'm sure we'll chat again.
Raia
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38. jcj_111776 (1251) | 3 years ago | hello, my friend.^_^
In my 2 months of stay here at Mylot, I have never given anyone a - rating. Even if sometimes their response is a little way off track from the discussion. Now, if there's really a response that doesn't make any sense at all, I just leave it blank. But I've only done that twice.
I have given 99% of those who responded to my discussions and to the discussions that I respond to a + rating.
As you know, my rating dropped 4 points in a few seconds. But thanks to those who gave me another boost, I got to having my blue star again. Then, I dropped again another point, then boosted up again.
It's great that you have thought of this.^_^ It will serve as a friendly reminder for those who haven't still made a move in rating those who responded to their discussions.
As for me, I now make it a point to finish the ratings first, before I reply back.
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Perspectives (2264) | 3 years ago | Hi again to my special gal-pal Thanks I am glad you like the idea of rating before you poist...it is an easy habit to get into. I like the fact that it gives members their just due...and helps me make sure I do not miss a chance to comment on their valuable input.
I was on a couple of sites today where the ratings were wide open...so I went along and click, clicked clicked the plusses for them. When they are not inclinded to do it..those of who choose to can close the gap for them. Hope our joint efforts protect valued members from those who 'neg' out of spite. That is not the kind of energy we want here...there are so many wonderful people living by right principles that I hope the others will decide to change over and participate in more longing, honoring ways.
All we can do is try and see what happens...I'd like to believe the ripple effect will be a win-win for all.
Good to hear from you as always, Raia
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jcj_111776 (1251) | 3 years ago | I've finally finished with the rating system. I "dig deep" for my old discussions and checked them out. Because I wasn't sure if I gave a rating at all. You see, I was still a newbie and totally unfamiliar with the ratings system.
You are right though. I've checked other discussions and most of them are left without any ratings at all. I guess we're going to start a crusade here.^_^
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Perspectives (2264) | 3 years ago | Well good for you! I am impressed that you went back and confirmed my observations about the way many members leave the ratings wide open for anyone to come along and use it to degrade solid member's standing.
Thank you for your cheering section appreciation for this topic..I appreciate that. We have so many wonderful, responsible members here and it is disheartening to hear how so many have lost what they worked hard to achieve. In reading over the posts here and responding to them there are more whose star power has fallen too. We need to be each other's 'champions' to keep the site happy, harmonious and fulfilling so we do not lose any more members. Thanks for doing your part!!
Cheers, Raia
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39. Katlady2 (4467) | 3 years ago | Hi Perspectives. I couldn't have worded it any better myself. Kudos to you and the way that you explained as to why we should keep up with the ratings of our fellow members. We do need to be each others cheerleaders here so that it can benefit everyone. But I hate to say that there are a few members that bring on their lower ratings all on their own. Deliberately provoking arguments, flaming against other members, and posting negative rude discussions all seem to play a part in those low ratings. It would be nice if people would read the guidelines, along with your discussion here before getting started. Maybe that way things might go in a more positive direction for them.
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Perspectives (2264) | 3 years ago | Your encouraging words are of great value to me. I am still a relative Newbie here compared to numbers like yours and other 'senior' members of Mylot. So the fact that you and others thought this was a good idea means a lot to me. Maybe it is the type of work my hubby and I do. We are always interacting with people and assisting them in improving the quality of their lives by making different choices.
It seem tragic that a few with more self-serving agendas can disrupt the harmony and satisfaction of Mylot. So hopefully we can look towards creating a site that works for the highest and greatest good of the all. Anytime there is duality and 'them against us' thinking there is bound to be conflict. Goodness this is not a warring between nations...we are just everyday people having everyday discussions about how we see things. I truly hope we can resolve these conflicts and move on to happy, harmonious Mylotting! There is strength in numbers...so lets rate and keep Mylot informed of the trouble makers and just get back to enjoying our experiences here.
Warmest regards, Raia
Oh yes...I meant to comment that I love your Avatar...we have 5 cats and yours is really cute!!
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Katlady2 (4467) | 3 years ago | You have the most wonderful outlook on life, and you are such an inspiration to me. Thank you for that. Unfortunately today, I came across some of those troublesome people in a couple of my discussions. But admin straightened it right out, and to me it feels like things are "back to rights" as my grandma would say. And thanks for the compliment on my avatar. I just love it. I had changed it at one point, but I got in so much "trouble" with friends here that I ended up putting him back. Now he's my official mascot. LOL Thanks again hon.
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40. lecanis (7212) | 3 years ago | Oh, Raia, you are indeed so much sweeter than I am.=P
I must admit that I give -'s and!'s. Not willy-nilly, and not just because someone offended me or disagreed with me. But if I feel someone is being rude or abusive, or if they are obviously just reposting someone else's topic, or such things.... I will rate poorly or report.
Here's why. I would consider anything else to be a lie. If I don't honestly feel like a response is worthy of a plus, I can't give it, because that would be lying in my mind. I rarely leave something unrated, and most of the time I do give +'s... but there have been situations where I simply could NOT make myself do so.
There you go, everyone feel free to flame me.*laughs*
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Perspectives (2264) | 3 years ago | Hi again my friend,
I am not going to flame at your...because I respect your integrity. Your already know how much I value your open, honest response on any topic. So you go girl!!! Where I sit on this topic has no right/wrong position to it. Even if you mark something..it is still YOUR choice...not some other member using the system to fulfill a vendetta. So for me the idea of rating is more about not leaving the field open for abuses than it is WHAT a member decides to do for themselves. At least if is checked off...no one else can do it.
It is not up to me or anyone else to tell you not to vote your conscience. Perhaps I haven't been here long enough to have to rate someone for an abuse. But believe me I will if the need arises.
Your position and perspectives are always welcome here Lecanis because I value who you are...and how you have the courage to walk your talk. Differing opinions is the very thing I love about Mylot discussions. They hopefully assist us in keeping all our minds open!
Once again I am grateful for who you are...your friendship...and your participation in perspectives forums!
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lecanis (7212) | 3 years ago | Thank you!=)
I've answered a couple of other discussions about ratings, and I think people have taken my answers the wrong way, so I guess I expected mean comments. Honestly though I have NEVER rated anyone just because they disagreed with me, or I didn't like them. In fact, there are a couple of mylot members I disagree with on just about everything that are my friends.=P
Thanks for all your kind words about me. You are so sweet.=)
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Perspectives (2264) | 3 years ago | Hi again... Thanks for coming back again...I truly enjoy our chats...on most anything. My comments to you are genuine and sense you know that. You appear to have a build in c@%#p detector swirling around your head and within your field. I know you'd quickly pick up on things that were offered to try and win brownie points.LOL That is not my style anyway. To the best of my ability I endeavor to walk my talk and keep my inner and outer worlds in balance. So my friend, offerings to you are simply what I perceive through my interactions with you.
For those who disagree with your truth and the way you speak it...that is there issue to resolve...not yours. As you have found with what you shared about your family...the more investment people have in their beliefs the harder it is to change them. That appears to be what occurs here when members bump into other people's prejudices..they lash out, condemn, cause trouble or whatever else they have to do to avoid the possibility that they may need to tilt their own lens.
So as I said in one of our other discussions we all need to have enough self-worth to not allow other people's rejection of our beliefs affect the way we feel about ourselves. I sincerely hope that by working together all the valued, responsible, ethical members will be able to reduce the negative impact of a small few. All we can do is keep trying...and with the power of joint intent it could conceivably happen. Lets hope so anyway!
Warm and loving regards to you, hubby and your little boy. Raia
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