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myLot reputation of 81/100. jobenmakapangyarihan (308)   ranked 852 out of 7,858 in dogs 4 years ago

Debarking, or devocalization, is a controversial surgical procedure, similar to a laryngectomy, applied to dogs to permanently stop them from barking. Debarking reduces the volume and pitch of a dog's bark making it sound more as if the dog is hoarse or whispering. This is done in response to problematic amounts of barking.(from http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Debarking)

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Armortec (113) response was accepted on 4/7/2008.
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1. myLot reputation of 95/100. kezabelle (2745)   ranked 706 out of 7,858 in dogs   4 years ago

No I don't, I think more people should stand up and say you know what we arent doing right by our animal and take it to some classes to help control the constant barking rather than taking the easy option.
Dogs bark it is what they do but it can be controlled to cause the least distress to everyone around it without resulting to an operation.


myLot reputation of 81/100. jobenmakapangyarihan (308)   ranked 852 out of 7,858 in dogs  4 years ago

yup, i also do think that dogs should not be in that kind of operation. because i can't let my dog have that much pain. like in a surgery. cry.i am sure that it would be very painful for my dog. and i don't want her to get hurt.

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2. myLot reputation of 62/100. Armortec (113)   ranked 856 out of 7,858 in dogs   4 years ago

I know you also love dogs




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3. myLot reputation of 99/100. blackbriar (6633)   ranked 104 out of 7,858 in dogs   4 years ago

I don't agree with debarking at all. If God didn't want dogs to bark, he would of not given them vocal chords to begin with. That's how a dog communicates with other dogs and their humans along with body language. A dog CAN be trained not to bark so much. Just takes patience and understanding is all.


myLot reputation of 81/100. jobenmakapangyarihan (308)   ranked 852 out of 7,858 in dogs  4 years ago

what a great logic.lol. and if i am a dog, i am sure that it would be a very shameful experience for me to have a tiny voice,and i don't want my dog to have that much of shame.


myLot reputation of 98/100. shaggin (4197)   ranked 1,748 out of 7,858 in dogs  4 years ago

I completely agree with you! How horrible that their are vets out there who are willing to do this procedure to an animal! As if declawing them werent bad enough now they want to stop their barking to? Dogs bark the same as we talk. If I talk to much should it be legal for my mother to take me to a doctor and have me have surgery for being to loud. Ridiculous! I don't like dogs barking constantly either but surgery is not the answer. I think obedience classes would help more and be less expensive and less painful and just plain better!

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4. bigridge (17)   ranked 4,491 out of 7,858 in dogs   4 years ago

Why not let dogs be dogs? I agree with fixing cats and dogs in the breeding department because it not only prevents unwanted and un-needed propogation but, it helps your pets live longer and free of many illnesses. "De-barking is over the top. Dogs can be trained not to bark unless they are warning you of something or are extremely threatened. Most times to me, a dog's happy greeting bark is as pleasant as a child's laughter. What's next? Cutting ut a child's voice box?


myLot reputation of 81/100. jobenmakapangyarihan (308)   ranked 852 out of 7,858 in dogs  4 years ago

you know, maybe your right. if they can do does cruel things to pets, maybe they can also do does things to human. but i wish that they don't.


myLot reputation of 76/100. jakesmum (117)   ranked 1,438 out of 7,858 in dogs  4 years ago

Say... now there's an idea - some of those kids can be really loud and annoying. I'm just joking here, children have the right to be heard, just as dogs do. Sometimes though a dog can be uncontrollable with it's barking. It's a difficult ethical question. If the only alternative to de-barking in death, obviously a dog would rather be de-barked. So in those circumstances, I'd say de-barking is OK. But I've heard a lot of de-barked dogs, and it's a sad sound. Some of my dogs bark too much on occasions, but I've never had one de-barked. I live on a biggish block in a country township though. it would be different if I lived in the suburbs. But if I lived in the 'burbs I wouldn't have six dogs!

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5. myLot reputation of 92/100. markgadiano (424)   ranked 1,649 out of 7,858 in dogs   4 years ago

Well, it depends on where you live. If you live in a condo and you really need to have dog then go for it and have him that surgical procedure, but if you do live in a farm or a place where-in there is no probation about noise then please let your dog enjoy the barking.

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6. myLot reputation of 99/100. Carolyn63 (796)   ranked 942 out of 7,858 in dogs   4 years ago

I worked at a pet store for a while where the owners had registered show shelties. They had the procedure done on their dogs. They sounded like squeek toys!
I wouldn't have this done. I want to hear my dogs bark when someone is in my yard. I also want to be alerted by them if they are having an issue. I get tickled when they discover something new and bark. I had a lab mix that the first time she ever saw a lunar moth just laid there and barked at it. She did the same thing with new dog treats. My german shepard loves to bark when she is playing. She loves being sprayed with the water hose and if my hubby has it washing my car, she barks telling him to play with her.
No thanks. I prefer the barking. My neighbors do too.


myLot reputation of 81/100. jobenmakapangyarihan (308)   ranked 852 out of 7,858 in dogs  4 years ago

barking is the way of the dogs to get our attention.
did the dogs that was debarked, really sounded like a squeek toy?crythat looks so terrible.cry


myLot reputation of 99/100. Carolyn63 (796)   ranked 942 out of 7,858 in dogs  4 years ago

Yes, they really sounded like squeek toys. I didn't really understand why they did this. They didn't seem to mind their cats wandering around meowing. They owned a pet shop. The birds were noisy.

They were a little unusual anyhow. I would occasionally go clean their house. They had family coming in at the last minute and I went after doing my regular work and cleaned their house. I couldn't move the next day. My hubby had a fit! He wouldn't call in for me and I couldn't get out of the bed. They also gave me heck over a cobweb behind the refrigerator once. How do you get that picky yet are surrounded by messy critters all day?


myLot reputation of 76/100. jakesmum (117)   ranked 1,438 out of 7,858 in dogs  4 years ago

I think lots of people who own pet supply stores are strange. I've had bad experiences working with them as a merchandiser. Really touchy odd people! Not naming names, but I found out it's not the industry for me.

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7. myLot reputation of 92/100. enola1692 (2228)   ranked 590 out of 7,858 in dogs   4 years ago

are you kidding no I would never have it done an can't believe someone actually would do this now I do believe in getting fixxed so you don't get stuck with unwanted pups


myLot reputation of 81/100. jobenmakapangyarihan (308)   ranked 852 out of 7,858 in dogs  4 years ago

according to wikipedia, This is done in response to problematic amounts of barking.which can cause disputes and legal problems and has been blamed for people losing their sanity and poisoning their neighbor's barking dogs.


myLot reputation of 92/100. enola1692 (2228)   ranked 590 out of 7,858 in dogs  4 years ago

oh thats nice to know but still no I couldn't do it


madserene (26)   ranked 3,548 out of 7,858 in dogs  4 years ago

Maybe I should amputate my neighbours' arms if they play mahjong the whole night and disturb my sleep.
And cut off my neighbours' kids' feet so that they don't run around and make too much noises.
Yea, and 'debark' them so that they won't have the chance to 'bark' @ me.

Yes, and legal issues can be avoided too!


myLot reputation of 92/100. enola1692 (2228)   ranked 590 out of 7,858 in dogs  4 years ago

lol thats an idea an can we cut the tires of the neighbors speeding down our road to

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8. myLot reputation of 95/100. swirlz (1833)   ranked 1,303 out of 7,858 in dogs   4 years ago

Oh, I wouldn't want to do that to my dog. It's like I'm trying to silence him. His voice is important to me, because it's one way to know what he wants and needs.

Our dog also serves as a guard dog for us, even though he's just a terrier. If we're going to debark him, then he wouldn't be useful anymore as a guard dog.


myLot reputation of 81/100. jobenmakapangyarihan (308)   ranked 852 out of 7,858 in dogs  4 years ago

yes. our dogs also stands, as our guards, they are really useful if they have their loud barks but if the dogs will undergo in this debarking operation they will never be our guards anymore. its the point of having them, having a reliable guard and also having a faithful friend.lol

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9. myLot reputation of 34/100. danclement (144)   ranked 4,174 out of 7,858 in dogs   4 years ago

I don't think it's right at all, and I honestly can't see why anybody would go for it. A scary-sounding, hoarse dog is even worse than a dog that won't stop barking in my opinion.


myLot reputation of 81/100. jobenmakapangyarihan (308)   ranked 852 out of 7,858 in dogs  4 years ago

dogs should be dogs, we should let them have your barks we should not prohibit them it is their way of expressing their own feeling and emotions.


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10. myLot reputation of 99/100. walijo2008 (4169)   ranked 298 out of 7,858 in dogs   4 years ago

I've never heard of that. I don't think I would do that to my dog either. You can train them not to bark when you don't want them to bark. We've trained our dogs not to bark at night. One thing I find annoying is when your trying to sleep, and somewhere you hear a dog barking all night long, and keeps you awake, it makes you wonder why the owners don't make them be quiet unless their able to sleep through anything. So we bought bark collars, anytime your dog barks it gives him a little buzz. Everytime he barks louder the buzz gets stronger, after about 2 weeks or so, you'll notice that he's not barking so much anymore. Now they bark during the daytime and let you know if someone pulls up, or if they see other dogs or something, but they will not bark at night anymore, because they know they aren't supposed to, thats the time to be quiet. Even if there are other dogs barking somewhere down the road, they'll still be quiet. I think that sounds alot better than doing a surgical procedure on them, I think thats kinda mean, plus alot less expensive.


myLot reputation of 81/100. jobenmakapangyarihan (308)   ranked 852 out of 7,858 in dogs  4 years ago

WOW!! i never heard of that "bark collar" before, how much that does collar cost? will that bark collar not hurt my dog? how many dogs have you trained with that "bark collar" of yours?



myLot reputation of 99/100. walijo2008 (4169)   ranked 298 out of 7,858 in dogs  4 years ago

The bark collar isn't that expensive, I think we paid about 35.00 to 40.00 dollars for it. It doesn't hurt the dog, it just gives him a little kick whenever he barks, and like I said the more he barks the collar kicks him a little harder, the dog teaches himself not to bark. I think we got ours at the Bass Pro Shop, you can usually find it at any outdoor store. They also have ones that anytime he barks it sprays some kind of liquid in his face, I don't know what the liquid is, but its supposed to do the same thing, but I think those are probably a little more expensive...hope that answered your questions?

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